Surely they don't sell more because of this pos controller the DS4 is.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Nier Automata Steam - Schrödinger's Release Date
- Thread starter Spirited
- Start date
- Status
Surely they don't sell more because of this pos controller the DS4 is.
JustSomeone
Member
Why do people think it may not come at march 10? It seems pretty obvious from that video
What video?
JustSomeone
Member
The one in the first post of this thread.
GHG
Member
Squeenix replaced it with a PS4-specific version. The date is unlikely to be a mistake, though, as the video was created less than a week ago.
jediyoshi
Member
Read through the thread.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Well, now i can cancel my ps4 pre-order and buy on steam.
Edit: Well fuck me right up the nose. SE still causing debate about the damn release date.
Edit: Well fuck me right up the nose. SE still causing debate about the damn release date.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Nice.
Funyarinpa
Member
I asked Taro himself if it was releasing on PC on March 10th. He followed me. Lol
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
This is a crazy situation. The simplest explanation is some kind of marketing agreement that stops them from talking about the PC.
version until after release. Seems like a mistake to me, it only causing confusion and sucking hype for the title out of the air
version until after release. Seems like a mistake to me, it only causing confusion and sucking hype for the title out of the air
It's not a timed-exclusive window. It's a marketing deal.
Most people out of GAF may think is a PS4 exclusive. Preorders and day-1 sales are very important.
No one at this point can deny that a marketing campaign is very important to make a product known. This type of agreement completely eliminates the marketing for one of the versions, which makes it invisible to the public. And that favors the one that is visible. That is why these agreements exist.
It is very likely that Sony decided to sign this agreement (or change its clauses) after the PC version was announced. That is why the position of SE is ridiculous, because people know that it exists and therefore ask for it while they can not even respond.
I really doubt it's the timed exclusive element as much as it is the marketing element.
There's a reason we've seen weird stuff like that Microsoft "Destiny is coming to Xbox too!" ad they did. It's the new hotness.
Solid points, and likely right on the money.
This is an unprecedented situation and I'm going to assume that more of this will crop with with Sony/SE going forward.
martino
Member
you are not gaming on pc ? this is not a rare price to find for digital pre order there.
and in the current case : http://www.dlcompare.com/games/100002761/buy-nier-automata-key#pc we are already near 40 with near only one shop to listing the game
for example i paid 37 for mass effect last week (price go up nearing release)
I would not be surprised at all if these types of marketing agreements were cheaper and yet yield better results than a temporal exclusivity.
At the end of the day, human beings handle better tangible facts, even if they are negative, than uncertainty. Announcing that a version will be released 2 months later gives us the certainty of knowing how long you will have to wait and you can decide if you'd rather put up with it.. However, not commenting on one of the versions makes the situation much worse. Look at this thread.
Frostman
Member
What 3 day Timed exclusive window?
Here are the release dates on PS4:
Japan - 23rd Feb
NA - 7th March
EU - 10th March
Do companies and people only care about NA?
There is no 'Timed exclusive' deal, it's a marketing agreement.
Prime crotch
Banned
I think I'll keep my preorder on simply because the tshirt looks cool.
NeoRaider
Member
What?? lol
On twitter? So that's a "yes". Silent but very important "yes"!!
On twitter? So that's a "yes". Silent but very important "yes"!!
Doesn't Taro pretty much follow anyone that follows him though?
NeoRaider
Member
Idk. lol :/
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well got a steam card for the 10th going to wait it out since I'd rather play on PC if I can and if the release is that close I can wait a few days since it's likely my Black Box wouldn't get here by then anyways. lol
Wait it's not?
It's been clarified as coming first to PS4.
Oh I see, thanks for the reply <3
Primethius
Banned
If this is Sony, this isn't the typical marketing agreement. Marketing agreements don't stop the other version from existing in all marketing.
Those types of marketing moneyhats are usually pre-announcement pre-release ones (e.g Crash Trilogy) where you hide the existence of the other version.
Where as something like Destiny doesn't come close to Nier. You slap the PS logo in commercials sure, but the other versions are a known factor that isn't hidden. They are on the website, on the MS page etc.
This is like the post announce, pre release marketing money hat of a game or something. It's so incredibly weird and dumb for a niche game like this.
I wasn't suggesting it was directly analagous to Destiny. Just used it as an example of some of the absurd restrictions that even a behemoth like Microsoft had to take creative liberties and were worried about mindshare.
It is more akin to things like with indie games. Like Salt and Sanctuary was known to come out on PC eventually, but they weren't allowed to talk about it beyond saying it existed.
It is more akin to things like with indie games. Like Salt and Sanctuary was known to come out on PC eventually, but they weren't allowed to talk about it beyond saying it existed.
Primethius
Banned
And that's what I'm saying is the key difference here. MS marketing the title is precisely the thing that marketing deals are designed to prevent, not the existence of them.
Those sorts of deals are usually pre-reveal of other platforms (see: Crash on front page). It's incredibly rare, and I can't think of an example, where a game is announced for other platforms and then a company isn't allowed to mention that version at all.
Aside from Nier I mean, if it's the case.
iirc the 2 Salt and Sanctuary devs were quite open about it ... aka that they will try to port it while ps version was in cert and that they have exclusivity deal for couple monhts ... thats night and day comparision
FF Seraphim
Member
Really? Hmm might ask if he wants to get a beer. The guy is crazy so he might enough to say yes
Shifty
Member
Dinky Dino
Member
But then you got to ask. If they're gonna go to such lengths to obscure the fact that the pc version exists, why even release a pc version to begin with ?
this.
Wasn't No Man's Sky similar? I didn't follow it super closely so I may be mistaken, but the only times I heard them answer questions about PC version after its announcement was like 2 weeks before launch or something like that.
They like money?
Automata's a pretty cool guy eh follows anyone and doesn't afraid of anything
Sony right now.
Yes. No Man's Sky was the exact same deal, Binding of Isaac did as well and I'm sure there's more examples.
Pretty sure that there was some arguments a while ago for something called the "long tail", that while PC games initially doesn't sell in bulk as much as a console game at its release, they are incredibly long lived and can continue to sell at a slow (but steady) rate for months and perhaps years after.
Will see if I can perhaps find the articles about this.
Edit: Derp, think I misread what you said, nevermind.
Me tired.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
If it was possible, I would use an Xbox One controller to play games instead of DS4.
Nah they announced the PC version quite early for NMS
But after the announcement they were silent about it until very close to the launch date. Which would make it similar to this.
Again, didn't follow too closely.
Nabs
Member
At this point, I expect them to put one up with a date, then remove the date, then re-add the date, then remove the entire store page, and then put it up again 2 hours before it releases (which is 12 hours later than the date originally shown).
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Yeah, but then after that and saying that with the power of PC they could do so much more with their incredible engine, no matter how many times asked they didn't say a frigging word about anything else for the PC version. No footage at all either. Nothing. Everybody went in blind. I hate that and it looks like it is happening here as well. Unless I missed PC footage somewhere.
Not even a solid release date...
Until a couple days before launch.
So yeah, now that I think about it, it really does seam similar in many ways. Even how the release date 3 days apart...
- Status