Undead Fantasy
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Wait, so it wasn't confirmed the game used a 16GB cart?
There's still hope.
There's still hope.
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Nintendo details how physical games bigger than 32GB will work on Switch
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-shadow-
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64MB $99, lol, how cute.
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I find it really funny that all the complaints leveled against Nintendo here are the same issues we've faced for about 8 years on the PS/360 and PS4/Xone. Nearly no game comes complete today and it was a mixed bag until this current standard since around 08' or 09'.
I'm not saying don't be upset about it, it was nice that games on Nintendo consoles were more or less the last hold out from this current trend and it's likely their own games will continue to hold out from being incomplete on release with huge day one patches finishing the job.
What I am saying is the rhetoric of "why even buy physical when the whole game isn't on the cart?" has applied to almost every game for years and the same benefits the other systems have are present here as well; you can still resell the game when you don't want it any more, you're saving space from not having to download the entire game onto the internal storage or an SD card (this actually isn't even a benefit on the PS4/Xone as all games install), and you can get the game potentially much cheaper buying it from elsewhere than Nintendo's eshop when going physical.
Here's hoping a physical solution comes through in the future, but I think a decent solution right now would be any online components of a game could be relegated to a download since you will have to have internet connectivity anyway to enjoy it. I know it's not ideal, but depending on how much space that data takes up it could be worth it.
I find it really funny that all the complaints leveled against Nintendo here are the same issues we've faced for about 8 years on the PS/360 and PS4/Xone. Nearly no game comes complete today and it was a mixed bag until this current standard since around 08' or 09'.
I'm not saying don't be upset about it, it was nice that games on Nintendo consoles were more or less the last hold out from this current trend and it's likely their own games will continue to hold out from being incomplete on release with huge day one patches finishing the job.
What I am saying is the rhetoric of "why even buy physical when the whole game isn't on the cart?" has applied to almost every game for years and the same benefits the other systems have are present here as well; you can still resell the game when you don't want it any more, you're saving space from not having to download the entire game onto the internal storage or an SD card (this actually isn't even a benefit on the PS4/Xone as all games install), and you can get the game potentially much cheaper buying it from elsewhere than Nintendo's eshop when going physical.
Here's hoping a physical solution comes through in the future, but I think a decent solution right now would be any online components of a game could be relegated to a download since you will have to have internet connectivity anyway to enjoy it. I know it's not ideal, but depending on how much space that data takes up it could be worth it.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Nope. I don't see any good reason to not expect another false outburst like happened with Lego City.
They were but if you bought the game digitally, you got them right off. They even said it couldn't fit on the disc so they made it an additional install. Also, sorry for the delayed reply, just got back to computer.
so you'd rather they included a second install cart?
Lupin the Third
Member
The first wave of copies of this game are just digital codes in boxes. For all platforms.
The physical copies (disc and cart) are coming at a later date. That is why they are confused.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Why later?
Lupin the Third
Member
Presumably to push people onto the all-digital train?
Wait, where was that announced?
Gamezone
Gold Member
Shady as hell.
About a month ago, via an updated release calendar that Take Two put out after their earnings statement. The actual physical release is coming a bit later.
Lupin the Third
Member
Have you tried to order the game on Amazon?
You can literally only order the digital code.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Yeah it's crazy. Isn't Skyrim Remastered like 12 GB?
Yeah, but only on Switch. And as far as I see there's no announcement of a code in a box, just eShop and retailers with digital codes (but not in a box).
The game is getting a disc release at launch on PS4 and X1. PC is getting a code in a box edition at launch (that's pretty much standard). Switch is getting a card Edition in October, with the game launching first on eShop only (with retailers that sell eShop codes also selling codes for this game). There's no announcement that there will be a 'code in a box' edition and no retailers list such a version.
Certainly one of them but for me there's still two bigger reasons.
1) Price. I buy physical games 30% cheaper than digital versions.
2) Resale - I can sell my games if I don't want them and often get 30-50% of the retail price back.
I would like to go digital but it just doesn't make financial sense in any way.
Back to the subject though, this is a rubbish move...and also WTF is a basketball game so huge?
Linkstrikesback
Member
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it's clear that the company still has its work cut out for it if it plans to compete on the same level as Sony's Memory Stick"
Ign quality predictions.
Clauss
Member
IMO this doesn't seem like a huge deal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't physical copies of games on the ps4/xbone do this? Pretty much all physical PS4 games that I've bought in the last few years require an immediate download. I suppose the internal hard drive covers this, where in the Switch's case an additional purchase would be required. I bought a 128GB SD card day one for my Switch so this is essentially a non-issue for me. However, I can see why some folks would be mad that it's pretty much a requirement to pay for additional storage to play certain games. /shrugs/
They always fuck it up somehow.
All the PS4 games you have can be played offline, and long after they shut down their servers.
It's not the same when the game you buy is incomplete on the cart.
All the PS4 games you have can be played offline, and long after they shut down their servers.
It's not the same when the game you buy is incomplete on the cart.
Joe T.
Member
NBA 2K17 was 48GB on PS4. Multiplatform games aren't typically good examples of efficient code and chances are that it's using higher resolution textures than most/all other Switch games released to date. You can't really compare it to a game like Breath of the Wild where the art style is conducive to smaller file sizes.
Clauss
Member
Even if the rest of the game is downloaded onto my system? How would this differ from playing a digital game offline? The way I am understanding this is that the game would be running hybrid cart/digital.
hemo memo
Gold Member
This is 2K fault for going cheap - compression + small cart.
if 32 then compression only.
NBA 2K18 and RE Revelations Collection will also be playable offline without downloading their updates though. Not the complete release but they're still playable.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Now I really hope this game flops hard.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Missing levels isn't playable.
If you can play it without an update it's technically still playable.
Gamezone
Gold Member
No, they don't require immediate updates to play the entire base game offline. Just install the game offline and play. No worries.
If a game is released incomplete with missing levels, that's totally different, and haven't been done before.
Living the Dream
Member
"Fuck you got mine"
"The page isnt redirecting properly"
"Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
LOL digital future.
Agent_Carnage
Member
This kinda sucks but atleast SD cards are fairly cheap. I could get a 64GB SD card for 20 bucks that is way better than what the Vita did.
mugurumakensei
Member
That's not necessarily true. There's a fair number of PS4 games that require Day 0 patches.
It's a huge deal, and essentially a very big issue, for the people actually making the games.
What games ended up using that SD card adapter?
soldierblue
Member
PS4 and X1 don't come with only 32gb of storage.
I know you're going to say, "but you can just buy a SD card". PS4 and X1 have expandable storage too, and you wouldn't think it's OK for a game to require that you buy an external drive to even play it on those.
Every Wii game.
How in the name of Christ did they fit XBC in just 3.68GB, I'll never know. I reaffirm my belief that Monolithsoft are a bunch of goddamn technical wizards.
Edit: Ok, someone else did the port, but still. I guess Monster Games are also wizards.
StereoVsn
Member
Nintendo got to be blamed for that with going with this sort of a solution. Not that they had a much better option for a Hybrid. It's a simple cost issue of the larger carts.
2K would be getting literally less money with 32GB carts vs going with 16GB carts. It's quite probable that the difference isn't insubstantial so could be looking at a few $ for this one.
At the end Publishers would like to make a profit. If 2K came out with a $69.99 game but a 32GB cart then everyone would be screaming bloody murder.
……forgetit
Member
It's only 6.5 gigs at full size dude. With the tiny textures and lower poly models it's not really that surprising.
JershJopstin
Banned
Eh? It was an alternative to regular memory cards. Therefore, every game had save files could use it.
encephalon
Member
I thought I would be fine with a "basic" because I didn't realize a single game would download over 1GB of content (smash bros) or that the OS would take up something like half of that. Had I known, I might have bough a pro ... but if I recall, I only bought the console because I had roughly 200 USD in credit at a certain location for signing up for an internet plan there and the pro wasn't available. I only own 7 Wii U games.
The HDD I bought advertised compatibility with the Wii U.
They can take up 50-100 MB, which adds up. I'm pretty sure both Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 8 downloaded hefty updates. 3GB is a hell of a lot of space with the basic model.
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Original game was 6.5 GB. They removed the japanese audio, made the textures and models worse, compressed better the game with newer tech I guess, and that's it
Skyrim uses the same assets over and over again in different areas.
The 8GB model of the Wii U was fine. The money you saved buying it instead of the 32GB was about enough to buy a 500GB HDD.
Same with the Switch, if there was a hypothetical 64GB (or even 128GB) model you'd be daft buying that instead of the 32GB model and a much larger micro SD card. 32GB is fine for the Switch.
Same with the Switch, if there was a hypothetical 64GB (or even 128GB) model you'd be daft buying that instead of the 32GB model and a much larger micro SD card. 32GB is fine for the Switch.