This only accounts for licensing take and revenue. You also have to factor in additional R&D costs.
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Nintendo Q4 FYE 3/15 Results - Beats Market Expectations, FY15 Guidance Announced
- Thread starter vinnygambini
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I don't think counting your software release schedule for the year on two hands is a ''solid business model''.
I think even Reggie and Iwata would love to be able to say that major third parties like Battlefield/Battlefront, Destiny, Batman: Arkham Knight, Rainbow Six Siege, The Witcher 3, Just Cause 3, Metal Gear Solid V, Rock Band 4, and the many, many others are available on Wii U.
Which can only be said if we travel through a black hole to another dimension.
I was being sarcastic, of course MK8 was way more than just profitable at 5 million, it made a ton of money.
Why are you trying to reduce this to first party? Nintendo would be third party and could sell on all platforms.
And I really don't think you get what I mean, I meant that through sales Nintendo could at a later point in the games life reach a way larger audience than on only the Wii U, cause no matter how cheap they make MK8 the limiting factor for its sales potential is still the very lackluster Wii U installbase.
The point of MK8 and other flagship titles is to get people to purchase their platform and possibly purchase more software on said platform.
If 5 million people bought a Wii U to play mainly MK8 that's inherently much more financially important than if they sold 20 million copies of MK8 on 3 different platforms which they do not own or control the market place on.
Really? Are we really going there?
Between 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo has developed or published far more than 10 titles in the last 12 months. Far more.
The "Nintendo can't support two platforms" stuff is completely bogus. They put out more first party content on either of their devices than MS and Sony do in a year.
People said the same last year, and the year before. Funnily enough, in less than 6 weeks there's this thing where developers show off new games for the next year
That's why they forecast lower 3DS numbers for 2015-2016.
Ok, which racing game sold more than 7.5 mio. on PS4/Xbone/PC ?
GhostTrick
Banned
When is their next QA ??
The last FY was the best Nintendo could reasonably do for a while:
* Launch of new titles of the two biggest home console franchises they have: Mario Kart and Smash Bros
* Release of a remake of their biggest handheld franchise: Pokemon
* New 3DS model
* Amiibo launch.
They fired almost all their guns.
To top that they probably have to launch a new hardware or have an instant global success on mobile.
* Launch of new titles of the two biggest home console franchises they have: Mario Kart and Smash Bros
* Release of a remake of their biggest handheld franchise: Pokemon
* New 3DS model
* Amiibo launch.
They fired almost all their guns.
To top that they probably have to launch a new hardware or have an instant global success on mobile.
Bioshocker
Member
"Nintendo Co. forecast annual profit that beat analysts estimates after releasing an upgraded version of its 3DS handheld player and new Wii U games such as Splatoon."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-beats-estimates-after-3ds-upgrade-new-games
Yeah, Splatoon, releasing in May 2015, must have done wonders to the sales last year.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-beats-estimates-after-3ds-upgrade-new-games
Yeah, Splatoon, releasing in May 2015, must have done wonders to the sales last year.
McHuj
Member
Not at all. Apple makes good hardware.
Given the difference in power between the WiiU and the others, they would probably hit 1080p on those.
hemo memo
Gold Member
They don't have to, third party fill the gap but for Nintendo the situation is different.
If the developers of Yooka-Layle are able to release their game simultaneously on PC and all current game consoles with only a budget of 1 million pounds then I think Nintendo will be able to manage, most of Nintendos games thrive more on artstyle than on horsepower anyway.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Yeah, they would sure do like to say it.
But now think for a second.
What would they have to do to achieve this?
If they had a system that is autonomous, that doesn't need the third party support, that can generate money without them, wouldn't they be happy too?
Well, they could also port Wii games to run at 1080p on Wii U.
Gran Turismo
Herb Alpert
Banned
splatoon is already a success confirmed!
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Remind me again why begging for Nintendo games on other platforms isn't portbegging and otherwise bannable on NeoGAF again?
I love GT on my PS4, but i think it looks better on PC with a better framerate and i think it would be better for Sony to release it Multi because better sales.
Source for Gran Turismo sales on PS4?
Are you just comparing a £10 game with a $60 game now?
Considering that most software that is purchased on Wii U is first party I'd say that it doesn't make much of a difference, they still get moeny if they sell those first party games on other platforms.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I mean, Bomberman Zero would have moved a ton of units bundled with a PS4. This means nothing.
Welfare
Member
The Crew was secretly Gran Turismo, and has 7 million sales?!
Oh lol, yeah true, didn't pay attention to the current gen part.
Just wanted to answer his, quite frankly completely pointless question, what does it freaking matter if no racing game has sold that on those platforms yet?
Indeed. And we say you're wrong.
They day nintendo leaves hardware is the day nintendo is really doomed. And arguably the video game industry as a whole would be worse off.
It shows that Nintendo as a platform owner is part of the reason why Mario Kart became such a big success in the first place. Mario Kart needs nintendo hardware in the same way as nintendo hardware needs a mario kart game. There is a synergy that they wouldn't have on another platform.
Really? Are we really going there?
Between 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo has developed or published far more than 10 titles in the last 12 months. Far more.
The "Nintendo can't support two platforms" stuff is completely bogus. They put out more first party content on either of their devices than MS and Sony do in a year.
People said the same last year, and the year before. Funnily enough, in less than 6 weeks there's this thing where developers show off new games for the next year
No, what I mean is that I believe the best system for their next gen console would be to have it as a home console / portable hybrid ala fusion rumors, and it would increase the software library through sharing.
And purchasing additional software on a Nintendo console most of the time mean purchasing more Nintendo games.
They also have bigger visibility compared to a simple third-party publisher.
Without speaking of the higher margin peripheral markets.
WiiU sales are horrible and thus impact negatively software sales potential but it doesn't mean that because the WiiU is a flop that the next Nintendo system will follow the same route.
Said SNK CEO.
ninjablade
Banned
probably cause nintendo console the wiiu is selling like shit, and from nintendo own mouth, they are not in this busniess to only sell 20 million consoles. nintendo next console could be a bigger flop, but who knows?
and what about that GT is first Party? wouldn´t it be better to release it on all Platforms?
ninjablade
Banned
mario kart 8 is getting tons of sales by being bundled yet it still counts.
GhostTrick
Banned
You're aware that they still have a handheld selling over 50M units ? Port begging makes no sense in that case, that kind of talk makes sense if or once their hardware base falls far below that.
does this count for all AAA Games? I mean Destiny, Watchdogs, CoD,etc. was heavy bundled too
Neff
Member
I think the NeoGAF mods just avoid Nintendo threads these days, and I don't blame them.
geordiemp
Member
Who is port begging ? Nintendo announced they are going third party on some stuff, and you want us not to discuss third party. Stop trying to be a backseat mod.
If a console does not sell well at all, And that console manufacturer is already going third party on mobile / touchpad (read everyone), then its fair game to talk about the commercial pros and cons of third party on other platforms.
Personally I find Nintendo very interesting from a market standpoint, the decisions commercially are a good read as is the discussion on them branching out from their core platforms.
No other company is so hard to read, with Sony and MS its fairly straight forward, Nintendo is a cloud of mystery with NX, QOL ...things nobody has a clue about.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
ninjablade
Banned
I think people are talking about them going thirdparty on consoles. the handheld market is totally different , they have been dominating there since forever, making games for ps4/xb1 wont effect there handheld market, it's more likely going mobile will.
Starfish Hero
Member
MK8's bundle has been sold out for like a year.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
There are two on the second page of this thread.
Nintendo would go full handheld before they went on other formats. They wouldn't split with some on other people's consoles and others on their handheld, they'd just all go on their handheld.
Yeap. It only counts for a fraction of MK8 sales. And as opposed to PS4 bundles, is the game that sells the console, not the other way around.
Anyhow, looking forward to play Gran Turismo on my PC, now that I was enlighten by the advantages of 3rd party over 1st party sales.
Beyond Mario Maker, I doubt it. They'll probably save the next 3D Mario game for the next console.
Yeah but I don't have much work on my plate right now so I have plenty of time to waste
I just wish people would understand the actual situation