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Nintendo: some findings about the web eShop
- Thread starter L~A
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No, if your service isn't ready to be launched, everything should be kept private and not accessible for any outsider, even if it seems to work. Otherwise, you never know what kind of problems may crop up.
I like being able to find out that sort of stuff before it's launched, but I'd rather they don't mess up something because of that.
I wonder if the fact that the code stuff seems to be working is a sign launch is closer than we might think?
Cbajd5
Member
I just remembered to try something I wanted to try after reading here that the Smash 3DS demo codes were still valid.
This is what happens when you try to redeem a code for something you already own. (It'll show you the informational redeem page that comes up after you enter the code first and try to redeem it to your account.)
This is what happens when you redeem a code that's already been used. (It shows up immediately after entering the code.)
This is what happens when you try to redeem a code for something you already own. (It'll show you the informational redeem page that comes up after you enter the code first and try to redeem it to your account.)
This is what happens when you redeem a code that's already been used. (It shows up immediately after entering the code.)
I guess so. Iwata will speak about the progress they made on Wii U, mentioning the recently released or upcoming Web eShop.
Well you can buy eShop credit via PayPal, at least here in Europe.
But it is somehow country or currency restricted. I live in Austria, but I have my main NNID and the Wii U set for UK, yet I can't buy eshop codes from paypal gifts in pounds (I get always a strange error) and my guess is because I have my paypal account in an euro country. Buying euro codes works though. But even better would be to be able to buy the games directly using paypal.
Should've set your NNID to Ireland so you could use euros.
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Anyway, checked something real quick.
The eshop.nintendo.net page was last updated on Saturday, october 11 2014 13:52:31
The redeem page was last updated on Tuesday, octobre 14 2014 15:42:14
And the security certificate:
That's strange... when was that?
It worked for games and demos, so... maybe they finally realised people were redeeming stuff?
Is it the error you encountered?
If yes, they don't accept those codes. Above message was for the Nintendo Network Deluxe program 5$ coupons.
If yes, they don't accept those codes. Above message was for the Nintendo Network Deluxe program 5$ coupons.
Not an expert in the field, but it's pretty good encryption, yeah.
Can someone actually compare those details with those from the 8.0 update for the 3DS? I remember they changed some stuff regarding encryption.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
The type of encryption used isn't comparable. This is just a SSL encryption -- has nothing to do with the system encryption on 3DS.
All this cert tells you that is interesting is that:
- They implemented this very recently (cert made Oct 7)
- They may have subdomains below eshop.nintendo.com -- example: blah.eshop.nintendo.com
Other than that nothing to see here.
We already know about the sub-subdomains (check the OP), though we don't quite know how they're used.
About the encryption, I was thinking of the auto-download system, where you can buy stuff on the web eShop and it starts downloading automatically... but guess I was off-track here.
And yeah, the whole thing is very recent. All this wasn't there last Friday, and the screencap above shows they apparently "launched" the page on Saturday.
I'm not sure if anyone has made a thread on this but you can buy AND preorder on the web from Nintendo, buying will auto download on Wii U or give you a code and preordering will send a code to your email at launch.
Source
Mario Kart 8 Nintendo hub page
Super Smash Bros for Wii U Nintendo hub page
Source
Mario Kart 8 Nintendo hub page
Super Smash Bros for Wii U Nintendo hub page
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/FgqKyqqYqgF2zNVct7wzwAVuaXjPWhnD
Look carefully at the page, and this is what results
Courtesy of GoNintendo.
EDIT: Now that I see it, look at the icons over the arrow for "Download Code"
Look carefully at the page, and this is what results
Courtesy of GoNintendo.
EDIT: Now that I see it, look at the icons over the arrow for "Download Code"
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/FgqKyqqYqgF2zNVct7wzwAVuaXjPWhnD
Look carefully at the page, and this is what results
Courtesy of GoNintendo.
EDIT: Now that I see it, look at the icons over the arrow for "Download Code"
And if you login with your NNID the game will be downloaded automatically:
Killer Yakuza B
Member
That's great! So there's finally a way to gift games on Wii U and 3DS.
There are VC games. Example, Minish Cap: http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/Uq4mHxYWIHPUlTlOd967IkJ1lvpCuYak
I doubt it's the same thing, to be honest, though they're definitely related.
Just tried the redeem page again, getting this:
Looks like they don't have maintenance-specific pages for now
By the way, URL for the page is :
https://eshop.nintendo.net/login?code=(long string of letter + numbers)&state=redeem
Interesting, so that's how it auto-logs you.
Looks like they don't have maintenance-specific pages for now
By the way, URL for the page is :
https://eshop.nintendo.net/login?code=(long string of letter + numbers)&state=redeem
Interesting, so that's how it auto-logs you.
Alec
Member
I was able to redeem my Pokemon 3DS demo code through the site, got an e-mail confirmation as well. It still tells me to put my 3DS into Sleep Mode to have it automatically download...I'm actually at work and don't have my 3DS on me, so I guess I'll check it when I get home in 8 hours.
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/FgqKyqqYqgF2zNVct7wzwAVuaXjPWhnD
Look carefully at the page, and this is what results
Courtesy of GoNintendo.
EDIT: Now that I see it, look at the icons over the arrow for "Download Code"
Nintendo needs a pre load option. Especially with how slow download and install time are.
Alec
Member
Mine didn't actually show up on my 3DS...but I forgot I had a Homepass setup for Germany and it error'ed out when I tried to go to the eShop because of the region...probably had something to do with it.
Alec
Member
They allowed people who pre-ordered a digital code of Pikmin 3 from GameStop to download the game a day early. I would love to see that return in place of a preload system (if they can't implement preloading for some reason, that is)...especially since downloads can be sent to the system automatically now.
Ok, tried to get the redeem page this morning... failure. But for some reason, I got disconnected and got to a login page with this URL:
I then tried http://id.nintendo.net and I ended up on this page https://id.nintendo.net/secure/account/settings/authorizations
Now, no idea since when it's there... I don't think there's any service using NNID as authentification, is there? It's something Nintendo talked about at E3.... 2012, but that's it.
I then tried http://id.nintendo.net and I ended up on this page https://id.nintendo.net/secure/account/settings/authorizations
Now, no idea since when it's there... I don't think there's any service using NNID as authentification, is there? It's something Nintendo talked about at E3.... 2012, but that's it.
L~A, a question: the first times you got the eshop.nintendo.com page, did the "Enter download code" option come up in French or in English? A few days ago, I saw the page again, and it came up with the message translated, but the "Enter download code" option untranslated, while today that's translated as well. I'm asking because it's possible that message already appeared translated and that time it didn't it was just a temporary screw up on their front.
P.S. I tried to redeem a few minutes ago, I got into the (failed) redeem page we all know, nothing different.
P.S. I tried to redeem a few minutes ago, I got into the (failed) redeem page we all know, nothing different.
Useless but pretty interesting - if you enter https://samurai.wup.shop.nintendo.net/ (this is the top-level URL of the site which the web eShop accesses for images, as I suppose), it displays default Apache index page. You will get an HTTPS certificate error, though.
Let me remind you - WUP is the code abbreviation for Wii U (like NTR for Wii, DOL for GameCube etc). I should check CTR (3DS) too.
Why samurai? I don't know.
EDIT: https://samurai.ctr.shop.nintendo.net/ works the same as the WUP one.
That's pretty cool. And probably samurai cause Nintendo will make you perform sudoku if you keep digging further lol.
By the way, Wii was actually REV since it was codenamed Revolution. NTR was actually the DS which was codenamed Nitro. Got a bit mixed up there.
TheMoon
Member
Ok, tried to get the redeem page this morning... failure. But for some reason, I got disconnected and got to a login page with this URL:
I then tried http://id.nintendo.net and I ended up on this page https://id.nintendo.net/secure/account/settings/authorizations
Now, no idea since when it's there... I don't think there's any service using NNID as authentification, is there? It's something Nintendo talked about at E3.... 2012, but that's it.
Authorization Management. The magic words we all want to hear. Just the description doesn't exactly match the thing we want^^
IsntChrisL
Member
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/FgqKyqqYqgF2zNVct7wzwAVuaXjPWhnD
Look carefully at the page, and this is what results
Courtesy of GoNintendo.
EDIT: Now that I see it, look at the icons over the arrow for "Download Code"
This sucks, Nintendo. We should at least get the option to have it download while the system is sleeping. What's the point of buying it online if I'm going to need get on the eShop to actually download it anyway?
TheMoon
Member
Have you even read anything? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES!
It sends it to your system automatically.... OR ... it gives you a code that you can either redeem yourself if you don't want to enter your NNID or you can gift that to someone.
Reading is a wonderful thing!
As someone that supports a set of proprietary applications for a specific internet connected device I'm going to suggest you have found links to the actual console based e-shop.
The e-shop is likely just a web app, it's listening on the internet for request from Nintendo consoles. Nintendo is using it's own root certificate authority because it doesn't care if web browsers trust it or not, the site is for consoles. Nintendo consoles trust that Nintendo G3 root certificate, no need to pay for expensive certs when you can handle it yourself.
Not to rain on the parade but I would guess the samurai. address is a pre-production site, it could the the real site, or even a specific game page on the e-shop. Without the rights to browse the site, it's hard to say. I would also guess that the "e-shop" web application uses some proprietary extension for the default web page allowing the consoles to launch the e-shop but no one else.
The e-shop is likely just a web app, it's listening on the internet for request from Nintendo consoles. Nintendo is using it's own root certificate authority because it doesn't care if web browsers trust it or not, the site is for consoles. Nintendo consoles trust that Nintendo G3 root certificate, no need to pay for expensive certs when you can handle it yourself.
Not to rain on the parade but I would guess the samurai. address is a pre-production site, it could the the real site, or even a specific game page on the e-shop. Without the rights to browse the site, it's hard to say. I would also guess that the "e-shop" web application uses some proprietary extension for the default web page allowing the consoles to launch the e-shop but no one else.
IsntChrisL
Member
I read the image multiple times but I'm still not seeing where it says that, no. If I'm missing it, great.
Unless you were talking about pre-ordering games then yeah you are correct. They will only see you the download code. The existing games are the only games will be downloaded directly to your unit if you buy it from Nintendo.com
TheMoon
Member
Sorry if I was a bit harsh. I was put off by your reaction to this when we've already learned from this thread that sleep-mode downloads are a thing. If you would not just read this image but also the post directly below, you'd have your answer and could've saved yourself the unwarranted anger.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134333711&postcount=225
You're maybe right. Maybe the web shop will never exist. But that doesn't change the fact that we can redeem codes through that site and have the games auto downloaded in our consoles through this method, which is very convenient.