Its funny because one would never think they would do that right after a though enemy as that.
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Nioh Last Chance Trial Thread: It's your last chance, seriously.
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Its funny because one would never think they would do that right after a though enemy as that.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
PSA: you don't have to fight the Tanuki mimics, just do the same gesture they are doing and he will drop his loot without a fight.
Stratosphere
Member
Around the temple in the water.
really?!? damn im going to test that now.
hahaha, this is why i quickly edited my post. i haven't had a chance to try my other controller out. the thing is that my controllers work fine in every other game i own. i don't know if this game is worth shelling out $50 on a new ds4 to play. it seems like it may be a controller "issue" but i don't have this issue in any other game i play.. which makes it more of a Nioh issue, unfortunately for me.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Almost done. Like 3/4.
Even less if you don't want to explore.
Yes there's also a wall mimic in the beta, to pass that one is slightly different but it's still to do with gestures.
OK, completed the trial now and got my unlocks. The chain-hook-spinny thingie turned out to be my absolute favorite, despite not getting any good drops for it.
The start was brutal. Only once you unlock some skills and magic does it let up. And the more I played, the easier it got. Never too easy, but way more manageable. Pushing the two dudes into deep water was my favorite too.
Will pre-order the deluxe PSN version next week.
The start was brutal. Only once you unlock some skills and magic does it let up. And the more I played, the easier it got. Never too easy, but way more manageable. Pushing the two dudes into deep water was my favorite too.
Will pre-order the deluxe PSN version next week.
Stratosphere
Member
Cool, I actually don't want to explore too much as this is already a day 1 purchase for me. Just playing for that sweet, sweet headgear.
Edit, I asked this once before but no response:
If I don't have the Mark of the Conquer add-on on my PS4, but it shows up on the PSN website, am I still screwed?
PensivePen
Member
That's such a cool little touch.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Then yeah you're pretty much done, just left the boss
Yes, both the temple Guardian armor set and Yukimura Sanada's armor set.
I think it's an NA issue that they're working on. Sorry we don't have an answer for that yet.
j0hnnix
Member
Then yeah you're pretty much done, just left the boss
Yes, both the temple Guardian armor set and Yukimura Sanada's armor set.
Nice. Thanks Chaos.
Coriolanus
Banned
Unlikely, given how absurdly tiny the levels already are. There is one for going back to the level select screen, and another for going back to the last shrine rested at. Obviously both of the permanent items sacrifice your amrita in the process. Then there's the (very rare) versions that do so without carried amrita loss.
ManUtdRedDevils
Member
I beat the Ogress after 20ish deaths. I had no issues when I kept close to her except when she does that frenzy attack. I would be dead before the combo finished.
What helped me get through that fight was unlocking the skill "after a combo, ki pulse would be triggered by dodging" for the low stance. This helped a lot so I didn't have to fumble trying to time the R1. Dodging was exactly what I was doing after a combo anyway. Free Ki! Couple that with the skill "extra damage boost when completing a ki pulse", I was doing good damage. I just bailed the up close battle when I got her down to 1/4 to avoid that nasty frenzy attack.
What helped me get through that fight was unlocking the skill "after a combo, ki pulse would be triggered by dodging" for the low stance. This helped a lot so I didn't have to fumble trying to time the R1. Dodging was exactly what I was doing after a combo anyway. Free Ki! Couple that with the skill "extra damage boost when completing a ki pulse", I was doing good damage. I just bailed the up close battle when I got her down to 1/4 to avoid that nasty frenzy attack.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
There's some really cool/unique details. You can overheat the spiked demon Yokai with fire damage and they'll explode.
Is that what fucking happend!? That was my first twilight minion. I made short work he felt so easy on last hit he fell to his knees and exploded OHK me...I had to take a break after that. Yes, I imbued my sword with fire (thought I had lightning equipped).
Chaos2Frozen
Member
R1. I'm assuming you didn't change your button layouts so that's the default button.
It only happens when you have that blue/white bar appearing, which only happens when you Attack.
Stratosphere
Member
ThanksThen yeah you're pretty much done, just left the boss
I think it's an NA issue that they're working on. Sorry we don't have an answer for that yet.
Treat it like active reload in Gears of War. Watch your stamina bar and hit R1 after you are done attacking when the segmented off part of your stamina bar that you used for the prior combo/attack refills. The other visual cue is the blue sparks that appear around your character after you're done attacking and shrink down into your character. You can eventually buy the ability to dodge instead of hitting R1 at the same time and it will do the ki pulse. There is also a purchasable ability that lets you do it on stance changing as well. Its essential to learn as it makes the bosses and tougher enemies a lot easier to manage.
Bloodporne
Member
how do you respond to the high five? All my co op sessions end like this:
I've been left hanging literally 6 times in total by now haha.
I mean shit, I feel like some of us should password co-op JUST to record ourselves doing high fives at this point, it's like a unicorn...
I really don't understand the complaints about Ogress' jump attack being impossible to dodge a few pages back. The dodge windows are entirely different than Souls in case that's what's troubling people maybe? You need to dodge to her extreme sides or preferably back essentially which isn't that difficult with some practice.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Sounds like it. I discovered it by accident and you only need 2 of the weaker bombs to kill it. Would've made my first twilight run much easier haha
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
thanks, gonna use them tomorrow then.
Coriolanus
Banned
Yeah. Given how loot-centric the game is, that appears to be what they're going for: Diablo Souls.
if you buy the skill for the weapon, sure.
Almost every attack of hers can be completely dodged if you simply walk into her warm bosom.
This includes her low hp multihit rage attack. And the jump attack (although this is safer if you aint using lock-on, otherwise you might walk right back into range)
Chaos2Frozen
Member
If you buy the weapon skill for it.
It's a mid stance skill so you have to be in mid stance to do it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I'd like to know this too. Lighting slows them down briefly, it seems.
No, it's really not.
Can't agree. One of the best fights in any video game ever.
Seriously? It's an optional side-boss... you can just return there when you're stronger.
Exactly!
I won't deny the Souls inspiration myself but... what negatives?
Yeah it's amazing that people miss the point of the ki system so bad. Might as well say Demon's Souls was dumb because it had a "pointless stamina system".
How does he not make sense? He plays by the same rules as you. And yes there's an incredible sense of accomplishment when you do beat him.
I'm only a few years younger but I do just fine. Stop making excuses
Criticism like... "this is artificial difficulty" without qualifiers?
Are you sure? He seemed harder, or I was lower level maybe. When I tried him at the recommended level he was insanely hard, but I came back after doing the twilight mission at level like, 25 and he was still challenging, but manageable.
IIRC in the beta the rec level was 25 but I could be wrong...
Freezasaurus
Member
Reviewers are going to fucking love it.
Nah, it's not a bad game or anything. It seems like it's mostly very well-made. I just don't think it's for me after having played 4 Souls games and Bloodborne on top of that. I just need a break from the formula.
Spine_Ripper
Member
Really dumb question here but...Is there any way to parry? I played through the tutorial but reading this thread, it's clear there's a lot of details that aren't explain (triangle + circle for example)
SixMachine
Member
You have to learn it in the skill tree for the appropriate weapon.
You have to unlock it. Its mid stance only I believe.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
But he can't ki pulse or use elixirs. Seems like a fair trade-off.
You can parry if you buy the skill for it. There is one with R1 + Square and one with R1 + Triangle.
Coriolanus
Banned
he can dodge without stamina
has infinite elec talismans
his pikadog isn't on a god damn timer AND changes behaviour according to tachi's hp
Otoh he sure does fall to the ground if you plug him in the head. And most of his attacks can be parried. So there's that.
select home base on the map
select dojo
play advanced tutorial
WHY the game doesn't suggest doing the advanced tutorial as soon as you complete the basic one, i'll never know.
ManUtdRedDevils
Member
There are two tutorials. Select Dojo from the Starting Point on the map and you should see another. It goes over more things. (Though not skills or magic)
GravityInsanity
Member
FINALLY beat that asshole Tachibana after dying like 50 times.
j0hnnix
Member
Tachibana definitely played against the rules, the design could be tweaked a little, he hits like a tank and rips you apart for any mistake, I was amazed how I capitalized on his delay before he killed me. I'm interested to see how the other bosses are and if they are designed in the same manner.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
That's not breaking the rules, that's just him being higher level
I just think the level recommendation of 13 is way too low, it should be 20 at least.Chaos2Frozen
Member
Actually there is a tutorial for it.
I'm betting most of you guys didn't check the dojo after you're done with the first one but there is a second tutorial lesson which teaches you range weapons, using items, and the living weapons.
You also get the wooden axe.
But let's be honest, it's great it works that way. If the fight respected all the laws applied to the player it would be extremely easy, to the point of being trivial considering how easy to abuse it would be.
In the end, rebalancing is needed to make the fight interesting. There are already the revenant if you guys want "by the books" fights. All of which can be cheesed.
j0hnnix
Member
That's not breaking the rules, that's just him being higher level
Lol. Well, I'm gonna rip all bosses at SL120.
It's been a while since a game grabbed my attention so well. I've replayed each mission a few times now and have spent a lot of hours on it the past 2 days. This really feels like it will end up one of my favorite games of all time.
I am pretty horrible but I am glad I stuck with it and learned some important mechanics that will help me in the main game. I have still not perfected the system but I will work on it when the full game comes out. It's crazy seeing the difference between my first and last tachibana attemps. It seemed impossible at first until I killed him without taking any damage. I am disappointed so many are skipping the game based on that fight.
I am loving the sheer number of options and customizations in this game. It seems you can make a complete build around one random weapon drop and that is so cool. My only concern right now is the small number of weapon classes but the different stances should keep it interesting enough.
Kill some of those red pile revenants in the beginning of the area to get some higher level items. That helped me jump in power levels considerably. Also many of the yokai are weak to elemental damage, so get some ninjutsu scrolls or kill the elemental flying head demons to power up the weapon.
I am pretty horrible but I am glad I stuck with it and learned some important mechanics that will help me in the main game. I have still not perfected the system but I will work on it when the full game comes out. It's crazy seeing the difference between my first and last tachibana attemps. It seemed impossible at first until I killed him without taking any damage. I am disappointed so many are skipping the game based on that fight.
I am loving the sheer number of options and customizations in this game. It seems you can make a complete build around one random weapon drop and that is so cool. My only concern right now is the small number of weapon classes but the different stances should keep it interesting enough.
Kill some of those red pile revenants in the beginning of the area to get some higher level items. That helped me jump in power levels considerably. Also many of the yokai are weak to elemental damage, so get some ninjutsu scrolls or kill the elemental flying head demons to power up the weapon.