GustyGardens
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No Man's Sky |OT2| Maths Effect
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That's what I thought, but I couldn't find an opening?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Did they make freighters cheaper in the latest update, though? I swear they cost millions when I last played (shortly after Foundation hit), but I checked again last night and got one for about 550,000.
Maybe I'm misremembering, though.
PintSizedSlasher
Member
It's pretty small compared to the rest of the freighter.
Here's a vid I did on my personal freighter:
https://youtu.be/uwCj8FWbfPs
eyeball_kid
Member
Wait, what? They're only half a million now? Yeah, they were like 7 million in the Foundation update. Damn, I may have a freighter in my future.
PintSizedSlasher
Member
Did you already own a freighter? Cause the amount of credits you get back for your old freighter is automatically subtracted from the amount it costs I believe.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Nope, never owned one.
EDIT: Okay apparently I got lucky and found a cheap one? 'Cause the one I'm looking at now is like 51 million.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I fully agree with this statement. I think as far as content goes, the game is currently at a solid level. Now is the time to take a critical look at core gameplay loops. Planetary geography and POI variations is a huge one.
When street date was broken, I remember Sean expressing disappointment at early Streamers who planet-hopped, and how the game was made to encourage planet exploration. Fast forward to today, where spending more than 10-20 minutes per planet might be considered a waste of time by the majority of players.
Their procedural algorithms need some heavy tweaking.
I haven't played since hte newest patch but every freighter I came across was 15 million. Never saw this mythical 7 million freighter (and hte prices never varied).
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
No I meant the one I found before (the 550,000 one) was cheap.
PintSizedSlasher
Member
Really digging the photo mode, especially the fact that you can place the sun anywhere you want.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Here's one of my home planet I really like.
Oh shit.... I should look to see if I can find a 550,000 that's far more reasonable. Whats the benefit of more expensive ones? More pre-built stuff?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
More storage space is the only obvious difference. There may be others, but that's it as far as I can tell.
eyeball_kid
Member
I agree that the gameplay loops need attention, but what you've mentioned is basically more content. POI and geography additions won't change the loop.
- Combat needs to be seriously improved. It's cool that they added more weapon abilities, but it's meaningless when AI creatures are braindead. Creatures should attack using their evolved abilities -- whether that's pouncing, clawing, tail whips, shooting poison spit, whatever. They should be smarter... groups of carnivores should use group tactics to take you down. Stalking animals should be able to effectively stealth from your view and track you. Some creatures should be boss-level; creatures in general should have rankings of difficulty. Ground combat should feel more like a FPS game.
- Add combat against alien NPCs, not just creatures.
- If I become a friend of the Korvax, that should have benefits and consequences. Factions should actually mean something, and participating in battles should have clear benefits for success (i.e. exclusive trading contracts, rank upgrades, etc.).
- A procedural job/mission system for cargo hauling, smuggling, fetch quests, bounty hunter jobs. This is IMO the most beneficial change they could make to the gameplay loop.
- NPCs should actually walk around, get out of their ships, mine things, drive around, attack you.
- Trading system should be more dynamic. Disrupting trade routes between systems should cause item shortages, etc.
- Pirates should be an actual org that you can join and go on raiding missions
Do you recall how much space was on the 550k one?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
13 slots I think. Pretty small, as freighters go.
Atomic Playboy
Member
Fingers crossed that it is.... because that might be the least fun gaming loop in the history of the medium. It was like copying data between non-adjacent cells in an Excel document on repeat forever. From what I've seen, it looks like they added some new crops that you can sell for big money anyway. And there's always Pearls.
Atomic Playboy
Member
Lubricants now cost 50 mordite and sell for 20k. Big nerf.
My base is at 94% complexity thanks to mordite plants...
So instead of roughly 1,000 per unit they sell for 400 per unit. A single plant generates, what, 40 or so, every 6 minutes? That's 160,000 credits per plant per hour. So a farm of 80 plants will still net you over $12 million per hour, which isn't too bad. But yeah, used to be over $25 million.
Does the trick still work where you can plant the Mordite and then delete the hydroponic station to save on base complexity?
eyeball_kid
Member
Undocumented changes in Path Finder (collated from Reddit)
* The range for collecting from plants in farms has been increased significantly. Now you can hold the button and collect from plants which are 3-4 rows behind your current container. Works in Freighters and planet bases.
* You can harvest some resources by shooting them from the atmosphere with your ship's photon cannons or phase beam. So far I can confirm the following can be harvested in this way: Plutonium, Iron, Carbon, resources in depots
* Color palette for new AND existing creatures has been updated, along with their textures and in some cases some minor details of the creature. (I've also noticed the procedural audio system for creatures has been updated; creatures near my home base are making different vocalizations and don't sound like anything I've heard in the game before)
* Crashed ships are no longer locked to +1/-1 slots compared to what you currently have. However, keep in mind that they have a number of damaged slots which need credits to repair. Mutitools now also vary in slots.
* You are now able to move while activating a save beacon.
* In the System Log moons are differentiated by a dashed line around the planet symbol.
* Starship weapon upgrades from the Foundation update have been removed (strange)
* Nanite clusters can be obtained not only from tech upgrade containers, but also from destroying spaceships, Sentinels, Freighter cargo containers and in some cases as distress call rewards or talking to aliens
* You can re-color decorations in base building. Previously they were one color only.
One little nice UI thing I noticed is that when you scroll up and down in the ship inventory screen, the ship will slowly shift perspective. Useless but nice little parallax visual effect.
* The range for collecting from plants in farms has been increased significantly. Now you can hold the button and collect from plants which are 3-4 rows behind your current container. Works in Freighters and planet bases.
* You can harvest some resources by shooting them from the atmosphere with your ship's photon cannons or phase beam. So far I can confirm the following can be harvested in this way: Plutonium, Iron, Carbon, resources in depots
* Color palette for new AND existing creatures has been updated, along with their textures and in some cases some minor details of the creature. (I've also noticed the procedural audio system for creatures has been updated; creatures near my home base are making different vocalizations and don't sound like anything I've heard in the game before)
* Crashed ships are no longer locked to +1/-1 slots compared to what you currently have. However, keep in mind that they have a number of damaged slots which need credits to repair. Mutitools now also vary in slots.
* You are now able to move while activating a save beacon.
* In the System Log moons are differentiated by a dashed line around the planet symbol.
* Starship weapon upgrades from the Foundation update have been removed (strange)
* Nanite clusters can be obtained not only from tech upgrade containers, but also from destroying spaceships, Sentinels, Freighter cargo containers and in some cases as distress call rewards or talking to aliens
* You can re-color decorations in base building. Previously they were one color only.
One little nice UI thing I noticed is that when you scroll up and down in the ship inventory screen, the ship will slowly shift perspective. Useless but nice little parallax visual effect.
Seems alright, I wonder if something else has become more lucrative. I've not heard of this trick you mention, but I think the patch notes mentioned something similar as fixed. I don't mind the lower ROI but I can't really use my base for anything but farming as it stands. It's not possible to have two bases, right? One on the freighter and one planet side? I thought I read that the storage containers are linked or of a finite number back in the foundation patch? Otherwise I might move the plants there and make a fancy villa in the planet's surface.
Sidenote: I think this patch changed the coloring of my freighter? I have the star destroyer lookalike and it used to be brown/red in tone, but now it looks like bright yellow with red decals, at least in the menu.
Also, it's a bit strange that nanite clusters are both a text currency AND a physical object taking up slots :/ Just make it a string type like credits!
Atomic Playboy
Member
You can have bases on both the freighter and your home planet, and they don't share resources. HOWEVER, you can only have one of each numbered storage box (0 through 9) between the two places. You could split them evenly, you could put them all in one place, whatever. Your freighter does have built-in storage, but it could be annoying to keep running to the captain to access it.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I can't think of anything that can be used to charge stuff that isn't so abundant you would ever need to worry about it.
Definitely a lot of time spent on this quick photo of my new temporary home.
The Glass Greenhouses may save on complexity.
If Mordite isn't as lucrative as it used to be then something more grow and forget would be worth growing. I'll stick to Mordite for now because my freighter farm is running at near peak.
New base.
The Landing Pad tunnel will go as that was just built for alignment purposes. Will probably scrap everything on the first floor as my base complexity is already near 80%.
They didn't fix the ladders in circular rooms bug. Very annoying especially after jetpacking up that long tunnel to my farms.
The Glass Greenhouses may save on complexity.
If Mordite isn't as lucrative as it used to be then something more grow and forget would be worth growing. I'll stick to Mordite for now because my freighter farm is running at near peak.
New base.
Everything on the top floor is Skywort for now. I want enough to glass the entire base. Can't waste seaside views :]
The Landing Pad tunnel will go as that was just built for alignment purposes. Will probably scrap everything on the first floor as my base complexity is already near 80%.
They didn't fix the ladders in circular rooms bug. Very annoying especially after jetpacking up that long tunnel to my farms.
Yeah it definitely seems significantly longer to recharge than the last time I played.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I literally came here to bitch about the Scanner recharge nerf.
Also, where the fuck is my Antrium?! There was a cave across my base rife with them, and now they're all gone!
Edit:
I travelled to a farther cave and found enough Antrium. Crisis averted.
New crisis: frame rate in the area around my base, especially while it's raining, is choppy post-update. OG PS4.
Also, where the fuck is my Antrium?! There was a cave across my base rife with them, and now they're all gone!
Edit:
I travelled to a farther cave and found enough Antrium. Crisis averted.
New crisis: frame rate in the area around my base, especially while it's raining, is choppy post-update. OG PS4.
eyeball_kid
Member
I just don't know why they haven't added elevators. Ladders have been shit in every FPS game since..I think Half-Life was the first one. Every one. They're always shit. Just give us some elevators, or Q3-style jump pads or something.
mitchman
Gold Member
No, from the looks of it, HDR is broken in NMS. Too dark in many areas, and icons are over-saturated in color. This is with a LG OLED B6 65" which looks great in other games such as Horizon: Zero Dawn. It appears that made darker areas even darker, and brighter areas over saturated with color. Particularly noticeable with the icons. It's borderline unplayable now unless you disable HDR, but I can't recall an option for that.
TheKingOfPain
Member
So, I tried out the three vehicles in Creative mode: who freaking thought it was a good idea mapping their controls that way? I'm speechless...
HalfBakedProphet
Member
I just bought a 70m, 35 slot freighter for only 5m. Was I given a massive discount for saving them from the pirate attack? My old freighter was only worth like 12 m.
Chronospherics
Member
Probably the same guy that mapped sprint to R3.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
The best use I've found for vehicles so far is the second one you get (the one that can drive on water) makes it really easy to farm Rigogen.
Otherwise, I guess the third one is nice for free storage.
neoism
Member
Sprint on r3 is infinitely better in almost every game... I haven't got any vechile a yet... I really should have farmed more I the first few months of release......
I'm just still tryna find a prefect planet to make my base....
Also wats the point of me being able to put a waypoint on a system I when to near the first of the game... Can't get there unless I warp 2k LYs at a time
Why can't I warp to systems I've found ??? 😔
Hold that thought!
The entire reason my base became more convoluted was because I was looking for ways to get around the constant ladder problems. Then I had ideas. Then I ran out of memory. Then I found out the game won't let me use my entire greenhouse because some of its planters are somehow out of bounds. So this is pretty much the finished version of my new base Mk. 1. Version 2 is going to be extremely simplified up top. The side greenhouses are still going to be up there, but I am moving them back from the boundary so I can use the whole thing.
After that the last thing left for me to do is a race track. A large part of it will be over water. I did a thing.
Agreed.
The entire reason my base became more convoluted was because I was looking for ways to get around the constant ladder problems. Then I had ideas. Then I ran out of memory. Then I found out the game won't let me use my entire greenhouse because some of its planters are somehow out of bounds. So this is pretty much the finished version of my new base Mk. 1. Version 2 is going to be extremely simplified up top. The side greenhouses are still going to be up there, but I am moving them back from the boundary so I can use the whole thing.
Will probably plant Albumen pearls as the main crop besides all the other utility plants. Going to see if I can get a Lighthouse effect. Cash crop is still on my freighter.
After that the last thing left for me to do is a race track. A large part of it will be over water. I did a thing.
neoism
Member
Well this wasn't fixed in the new update couldn't talk to the commander after a battle
Chronospherics
Member
What? Why? The reason you don't put sprint on R3 is because the left analogue doesn't require as articulate movements. Minute adjustments on the left stick are rarely the difference between hitting your enemy and not, and having to click R3 to sprint obstructs that. That's why R3 is usually mapped to things like crouch, or as a last resort, melee.
It also makes much more sense to align the sprint button, with the movement stick as it relates to that function. Not only that but it's straight up more intuitive. L3 is sprint on 99% of the games on the market. There's no reason to be different for the sake of it.
It's not a big deal though, but it's one of the games baffling features.
eyeball_kid
Member
After that the last thing left for me to do is a race track. A large part of it will be over water. I did a thing.
Cool looking base, and nice gif!
Well I did file a bug report for it back then. None of the bugs I've reported have been fixed.
Though a couple feature requests were put in. I'm really surprised they haven't fixed the red alert bug though, it seems pretty common.Considering they said they're hiring at GDC, I bet that they are still understaffed and focusing more of their efforts on new features rather than bugs right now.