Tyrannical
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BrodiemanTTR said:
But I thought no one had any accurate sales numbers between NPD report months because many stores don't supply weekly data to NPD?
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No More Heroes sells well and Suda cries tears of joy
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But I thought no one had any accurate sales numbers between NPD report months because many stores don't supply weekly data to NPD?
Phife Dawg
Member
That's great! I hope my Wii is fixed by the time this drops in PAL land.
Oh and the stupidity demonstrated by some of the posters in this thread is mindblowing. Uncharted comparisons...again? Will every low-budget Wii third-party game with no advertisement be compared to the huge budget, big ad first-party affair that is Uncharted, only to "proove" the latter is not a bomb? :lol
Oh and the stupidity demonstrated by some of the posters in this thread is mindblowing. Uncharted comparisons...again? Will every low-budget Wii third-party game with no advertisement be compared to the huge budget, big ad first-party affair that is Uncharted, only to "proove" the latter is not a bomb? :lol
And even after 10+ pages. Even if sell-through up until now wasn't 100k but 65k it would still be a huge success.Tyrannical said:
Tyrannical
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Arde5643 said:
I'm sorry. Must have missed the memo when PR annoucements = Gospel. Especially when it comes to sales data posted between NPD reporting periods.
BrodiemanTTR
Member
Tyrannical said:
I'll forgive you since you have a pulp fiction avartarTyrannical said:
but people are getting defensive coz it seems like every page someone has to question the numbers and clarify it all over again and some people who have done it are just cockbites The numbers are definitely legit, now go shout out some Suda love dammit.BrodiemanTTR said:
It took me a while to get it but when I did I smiled.
Conrad Link
Member
Seeing those pictures makes me really happy for them, I bet the team had been pretty stressed out after something they obviously put so much love into didn't take in Japan and got that sinking 'not again >_<' feeling.
I'm happy to say I'm playing NMH at the moment and loving it, been following it since its announcement and despite the haters saying it wouldn't sell... it sounds like for once the little guy is doing OK!
Not a bad effort for a bunch of casuals eh? Go team non-gamers!
*raises waggle in victory*
I'm happy to say I'm playing NMH at the moment and loving it, been following it since its announcement and despite the haters saying it wouldn't sell... it sounds like for once the little guy is doing OK!
Not a bad effort for a bunch of casuals eh? Go team non-gamers!
*raises waggle in victory*
norinrad21
Banned
They deserve it. This is a classic case of hard work paying off.
AceBandage
Banned
Why are people so quick to try and put down NMH's sales?
Pathetic, if you ask me, it's like they want hardcore games to fail...
Pathetic, if you ask me, it's like they want hardcore games to fail...
Conrad Link
Member
AceBandage said:
People either came in having no idea who or what GrassHopper is and what their history has been like or they just came in wanting it to fail so they can continue trolling "Wii games don't sell lol!" or "Should have been on 360 hurhur!" so they just dismiss this as nothing to get excited about and pretend its not happening.
Maybe a little of both combined also.
Tyrannical
Banned
Gee, I'm not a hater
I do like the art style, and ummmm, if it did come out on the 360 I'd probably pick it up.
I do like the art style, and ummmm, if it did come out on the 360 I'd probably pick it up.
Nuclear Muffin
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ivysaur12 said:
I think it already has!
norinrad21
Banned
Tyrannical said:Gee, I'm not a hater
I do like the art style, and ummmm, if it did come out on the 360 I'd probably pick it up.
I don't think they are stupid enough to pull a viewtiful Joe 2. Capcom paid dearly for that
On the "well, NPD's the only possible source for figures so how can he know he sold 100K" thing, I think there are other ways for a publisher to figure out customer sales - like shipment re-orders, for example. I doubt that Ubisoft shipped all 200K units directly at launch, if only because the game seemed to have really limited stock that sold out quickly and a lot of retailers hadn't heard of the game (and I think the rumor was that the first shipment was 50K or something?).
So if Ubisoft has been getting reorders from retailers who are sold out, it isn't hard for Ubisoft to tell Suda "our 1st/2nd/3rd/whatever shipment is sold out and retailers are asking for more; the first 100K+ we've shipped have sold through to customers". And the 50% shipment sell-through (100K of 200K) doesn't make sense in relation to initial limited stock unless there's been a new shipment(s).
OK, now back to celebrating for Suda.
So if Ubisoft has been getting reorders from retailers who are sold out, it isn't hard for Ubisoft to tell Suda "our 1st/2nd/3rd/whatever shipment is sold out and retailers are asking for more; the first 100K+ we've shipped have sold through to customers". And the 50% shipment sell-through (100K of 200K) doesn't make sense in relation to initial limited stock unless there's been a new shipment(s).
OK, now back to celebrating for Suda.
The next low-budget game I want to see succeeding is this:Innotech said:better than seeing high budget games selling millions, I love to see the little guys, the tiny budget creative minds selling well. Its fucking awesome that Suda hedged his bets on the Wii and ended up winning. But not as awesome as the game itself
They better bring it to Europe, where little games are doing well (see Z&W).
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Congardulation Suda. This game really deserve to sell.
I haven't had much fun with an action game for a long time although I'm not a fan of (Violence X Comedy) but this game made me reconsider.
I haven't had much fun with an action game for a long time although I'm not a fan of (Violence X Comedy) but this game made me reconsider.
Amir0x said:
Hyperbole. My bike got stuck on fence once. That's it.
Again. Hyperbole much? (yes, I'm aware that's grammatically incorrect) They're actually quite fun, although I'll admit the mine sweeping one sucks.
OK? More like freaking awesome. The bosses get better with every fight. The gameplay and story gets better with every encounter.
Then I think your sense of humor is lacking.
The only good use? Gimme a break. How many Wii games have you played?
Thunder Monkey
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Why are you doing this?!140.85 said:
YOU'RE FEEDING AN UNSTOPPABLE MONSTER!!!
IT WILL DEVOUR YOUR SOUL, AND MAKE MERRY SPORT OF YOUR MOTHER!
It's too late...
All hope is lost.
140.85 said:
I guess you don't really know what "technical problems" include. Hint: You literally BOUNCE OFF CARS since there is NO FUCKING COLLISIONS whatsoever, and the framerate is so awful that I frequently had to turn the game off to take a break.
140.85 said:
Not a single one is even remotely fun, unless the standards of what fun is has been lowered to catastrophically low levels. Whacking trees for coconuts? Get the fuck out of here.
140.85 said:
No, more like OK. It's not particularly deep, and eventually it becomes tedious and repetitive. Some people have said if you don't like Dynasty Warriors, it's not a surprise you don't like this. Maybe that's true? But it just wore out its welcome by the fourth assassin.
The boss fights are always cool, but there are only a set amount in the game and you have to fight your way through all the rest of the awful content to get there.
140.85 said:
No, I have a feeling that's not it.
140.85 said:
Not that many, I admit.
+Zelda, WiiSports, Ghost Squad
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Amir0x said:Not that many, I admit.
+Zelda, WiiSports, Ghost Squad
:lol
Amir0x said:
Lack of the collision behavior you would prefer is not a technical problem. The framerate can be annoying but it's not ZOMG I CANT PLAY THIS annoying.
Well you're wrong. There are degrees of fun. One does not need to lower standards to experience gradations in experience. I find them fun. Not as fun as other elements in the game but fun nonetheless.
This is the opposite of my experience. The visceral over-the-top nature of the combat, which is surprisingly deeper than it seems at first glance never gets tedious. Every deathblow is satisfying and every boss stage is different from the last not only in structure but also in it's difficulty.
Well, that "awful" content (it isn't) makes it that much more rewarding when you get to the bosses.
Well thank you for answering my question about how many Wii games you've played. But I'm afraid you missed the point. It doesn't change the fact that other games use the speaker in a cool way and that you're exaggerating.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I really wouldn't bother. I almost entirely differ in tastes from Ami, but I know him well enough to say this: the dude knows what he likes and knows what he dislikes, and no force in heaven, hell, or Earth is going to budge his opinions one iota.
You're best off taking a pill on the convo and going and playing some vids.
You're best off taking a pill on the convo and going and playing some vids.
140.85 said:
It's not a technical problem that, when driving a vehicle and you encounter another vehicle, you literally BOUNCE THE FUCK OFF IT? Well, then, however you want to label it - egregious gameplay flaw or technical problem - it's still really fucking bad.
140.85 said:
Well ok, you ARE absolutely right. There are certainly gradations. No More Heroes mini-games are definitely on the scale of fun somewhere. Here is an artist rendering of where that "somewhere" is:
140.85 said:
Well, that's good for you. I'm clearly not you, which I guess is not so much of a shock as it is fucking obvious. Like I said, the God of War's, Ninja Gaiden's and Devil May Cry's of the world are awesome, visceral, AND supremely deep - and so I don't really feel the need to sacrifice anything. No More Heroes felt pretty unfun by comparison by, once more, the fourth or fifth assassin fight. To me. But as established, you're definitely not me!
140.85 said:
Perhaps, but I'd rather skip games which force me to play hours of terrible content to get to the few fantastic moments. if you're different that's cool, I'm not judging you!
140.85 said:
uh you specifically questioned what my experience was with the Wii speaker, and this list of games shows pretty clearly that my opinion on what good uses there have been of it so far is not based on empty experience. I have played tons of Wii games, and the Wii speaker has been criminally underutilized (thankfully, because the quality is so horrific), but in this one game it was used in a way that was actually pretty cool.
bigmakstudios
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Now that we know No More Heroes will sell at least moderately well, do you want a sequel? I honestly think I would rather they make a sort of revision to the original, or special edition, with the battle against Helter Skelter included, improved graphics, improved overworld, better collision detection, better quality wii remote audio if at all possible, etc.
Tyrannical
Banned
Maybe Sega will let him do a Jet Set Radio with swords and ninjas on rocket skates.
I would so break down and buy a Wii for that game.
I would so break down and buy a Wii for that game.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Holy crap.Tyrannical said:
Day 1 if that ever happened.
goldenticket
Member
bigmakstudios said:
of course i want a sequel
bigmakstudios said:
no dont look back. it would be nice if those flaws werent in the game but dont waste time in perfecting it. just make a sequel where you fix those problems.
Penguin said:
I hate many of these games. Wii Play, Mario Party 8, Wario Ware... I purchased all three for the occasional visits made by my sisters and mother, who pretty much begged for me to buy them so they could play. Mario Party, Wario Ware and Pikmin 2 are basically all they played on Gamecube.