Thats a shame, you deserve an apology from them.
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Notch calls out Yogscast as "an isolated island of egos".
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Thats a shame, you deserve an apology from them.
That, plus what exactly is Notch accusing them of? Dropping F-bombs in front of fans? The rest of it sounds like hearsay.
Well we should hear what they have to say about this soon.
https://www.facebook.com/yogscast/posts/10150394251026137
PaleFolklore
Member
I'm not taking sides until I hear the Yogscast side of things. That said, I hate what has happened to their channel over the last year or so. I was subbed to them back when they first started doing WoW videos and were still doing their podcast regularly and absolutely loved them and the community around them. In the time since they started doing the SoI videos though the community has gotten progressively worse(downvoting videos because they aren't minecraft, constant begging in comments for new videos, etc.) and their personalities seem to have changed.
It's funny to me that he is saying they were swearing in front of kids but in the interview they did with him he was talking about fucking simon's mother and there were a few masturbation jokes as well iirc.
It's funny to me that he is saying they were swearing in front of kids but in the interview they did with him he was talking about fucking simon's mother and there were a few masturbation jokes as well iirc.
Broder Salsa
Banned
There's something more to this, no doubt. I am expecting something involving human trafficking and cocaine distribution. Notch will be exposed and he is not happy about it.
http://www.facebook.com/yogscast?sk=wall
Interested to see what their take on the whole thing is. I've always enjoyed their videos but I do remember them over stepping the mark before with Notch and C418 (minecraft's "composer") before with regards to requesting their fans to spam notch and mojang's twitter accounts or something along those lines.
What the yogcast guys did sounds pretty bad, but I gotta wonder if some isn't just a bit of culture differences. They're Brits right? British humor can come across as pretty crude and egotistical if don't understand the whole "taking the piss" thing they love to do so often. I work with a Brit in Japan and his interactions with Japanese can be akward but hilarious.
I looked up the dates and it turns out it was only a couple of months. For reference, I subsribed at their Final Fantasy 14 series' start in September 2010, they did their first Minecraft episode sometime in December. Not sure if that gives me the perspective to comment, but comparing the effort they put into that series, hours of content, and their average effort put into any Minecraft puzzle map nowadays, there's obviously a difference. Perharps because they're putting a lot of time into their main Minecraft series, but really that's just ridicolous.
The attitude I was referring to is in connection to that series. It's evident there's a lot more effort behind that one than what we're seeing, and a lot from people who're building the worlds and writing everything, but they'll rush through it all and hardly give any credit to those others.
I can't really put into words why I started to not watch their videos. If they've changed a lot recently (doesn't sound like it from this story) then I've missed it because I haven't watched anything from them since before summer.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and that dumbass "everyone e-mail Mojang and tell them to contact us, but we can't tell you why" stuff that pissed off Notch a couple of months back too. Did they ever tell everyone what that was about? It just seemed inexcusable on their end.
Backfoggen
Banned
Yogscast is a terrible name and from what I saw on their Youtube page it's a channel about people playing games in parts of which there are like 2 million out there. Why would anyone want shit signed from them, they're people talking over games.
Frank Jaeger
Member
OH SNAP!
In all fairness they are really a little responsible for some of minecraft´s success!
In all fairness they are really a little responsible for some of minecraft´s success!
From the Yogscast twitter:
I think Notch is a pretty terrible designer, and large amounts of the success of his game rides on the work of others that he often incorporates into the game with no given credit to the original modders. These insults are both petty and at the same time fellate the rest of his event, community, etc. He doesn't have the decency to make any official announcements, or the spine to confront them about anything. Instead he isolates himself to go online and whine about the behavior of others. Judging by the release of 1.0 Minecraft, Mojang are a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company.
I'm also reading stuff about Notch making masturbation jokes at Minecon with the Yogscast. So I guess I have to ask, who is he to really criticize anyone else being vulgar?
I think Notch is a pretty terrible designer, and large amounts of the success of his game rides on the work of others that he often incorporates into the game with no given credit to the original modders. These insults are both petty and at the same time fellate the rest of his event, community, etc. He doesn't have the decency to make any official announcements, or the spine to confront them about anything. Instead he isolates himself to go online and whine about the behavior of others. Judging by the release of 1.0 Minecraft, Mojang are a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company.
I'm also reading stuff about Notch making masturbation jokes at Minecon with the Yogscast. So I guess I have to ask, who is he to really criticize anyone else being vulgar?
Minecraft: The Explanation (part 1)
Stabby McSter
Member
Indifferent to both, so I'm pretty excited to see how this unfolds. :3
Spitballin' here.
How do you know they did not have words at the convention? Something obviously occurred between them as the Yogscast guys were gonna scratch out his name on an autograph and write "fuck you" on it.
Notch said it in his twitter.
PaleFolklore
Member
Where was this ever confirmed? I've seen it tossed around but yet to see any official word from Notch or the Yogscast of this actually taking place. It seems that the F-bombs Notch is referring to was during the video at their panel.
Edit: nm, somehow I missed that tweet
divisionbyzorro
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https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/138716909767102464
Tweet from Notch - "A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead."
Obviously this is still just what Notch says at the moment though. But it would be strange if he had outright just made that up.
Sephiroth503
Member
There is a claim that they were going to do that, let's not condemn anyone till all is known. As many have posted there's something odd about it all and I mentioned in the OT that Notch's outburst appears to have been a "I'll get my side of the story out first" type of thing.
Because if he had made it a thing there the argument wouldn't be happening when Yogscast is boarding a plane and is unable to respond. They seem pretty surprised about this.
Jokes, how do they work? Did they say it to the kid? To themselves? Afterwards at the panel in reference to the occurrence earlier? There is no context. Just Notch making vague shots in the dark.
Zomba13
Member
Some of that stuff sounds taken out of context. Like the 'true fans should have skipped the panel' that was obviously a joke and maybe they wanted to keep the yogscast sign as a keepsake of the con (I dunno if they regularly make signs or anything or if it was made specially for the con)?
I think it'd be very easy to mistake their joking and sense of humour as whining or complaining or acting like they are too good for the place. I dunno though. From what I've read they seem like dicks but then again we haven't heard/read their side.
I'm almost 100% sure that if that did happen it was a joke. They wouldn't seriously do that. I mean, if they would then they would be massive monumental dicks but it seems just like a joke they would say. Maybe their humour doesn't work that well in America or something.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Weird. I love Yogscast. They always seemed pretty nice from their videos at GamesCom and BlizzCon.
It's possible that it was a joke, but I can't think of a possible setup to make it humorous.
More Fun To Compute
Member
It almost seems like there is some sort of war between something awful goons and indie game devs and the battlefield is reddit.
I can't really think of a situation where it could be meant in a good natured way though, it seems like such a mundane thing to bring up in a panel later on, and it certainly wouldn't be worthy of accusation of misconduct in that context.
We do "need" more clarification though.
Thanks. That's one of the reasons why I stopped watching their main series but still check out their other stuff from time to time. They're not really playing minecraft anymore, but are just sort of touring stuff other people made at this point - sometimes very briefly. There's very little actual gameplay going on in their main series.
They do just go "fuck it" and just blow their way through things at times, but everyone does that at times so I never thought much of it.
Same.
So Notch/Mojang are the hard working dudes who make Minecraft, pouring their blood sweat and tears into creating an actual product.
Yogcast is a bunch of people who don't actually make Minecraft, they just talk about it? And they demand respect and want credit for popularizing Minecraft?
Yeah, gonna have to go with Notch/Mojang on this.
Yogcast is a bunch of people who don't actually make Minecraft, they just talk about it? And they demand respect and want credit for popularizing Minecraft?
Yeah, gonna have to go with Notch/Mojang on this.
GotEmRunnin
Member
3 sides to every story and the side that usually doesn't speak to often.....the truth.
Yeah I don't doubt that Notch is a good guy, but it's possible that he just drew the wrong conclusion or something. It happens. I'm surprised he publicized all of this either way.
Some say he's just pissed because of this video...apparently they brought it up during their panel too.
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