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November 2012 NPD (U.S.) Predictions, including Wii U launch - closes December 3

console sales have been declining all year, and it's only going to keep getting worse. microsoft could have stolen the spotlight with a new console this year.

Can't disagree frankly.
360 still would have sold too. Next year I doubt it will to the same degree and 720 won't make up for the decline.
 

jbug617

Banned
console sales have been declining all year, and it's only going to keep getting worse. microsoft could have stolen the spotlight with a new console this year.

I don't think they could of done it this year while they were focusing on Windows 8, Surface and WP8 this Fall.
 

Toki767

Member
I think we may get more discrete numbers from Sony since they likely sold a bit themselves. Not sure about Vita or PSP numbers though. Nintendo, probably not certain.

Discrete or concrete? If they sold a lot wouldn't they want to make it known? Then again they usually don't no matter how much they sell.
 

Seda

Member
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While Call of Duty: Black Ops II stormed out of the gate with $500 million generated in 24 hours, and Halo 4 produced $220 million on its first day, The NPD Group's just released November report does not bode well for the holiday season in the US.

Following a miserable October, the all-important fourth quarter continued to exhibit double-digit declines, as total industry sales dropped 11 percent to $2.55 billion in November. Total software sales (including PC) fell 11 percent to $1.46 billion, while hardware dipped 13 percent to $838.9 million. Accessories were down 8 percent as well, totaling $280.9 million.


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-06-us-game-sales-down-11-percent-in-november-despite-call-of-duty
 
@majornelson 3:17 PM
Latest #NPD's have been released: #Xbox 360 is number one for the 23rd consecutive month w/ 1.26 million units sold (US) in November

Next month will be 2 years straight they were the number one system. Crazy to think back to 2005 and Xbox 1.5 comments.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I have it on good authority the Wii U sold four units in the US for November.
 

The_Joker

Member
so when microsoft sold 1.26 million 360...and according to npd the 360 outsold ps3 + wiiu combined...and we know that the wii u must have sold more 400k (black friday) this means that sony must have sold less than 860k ps3...am i right?
 
so when microsoft sold 1.26 million 360...and according to npd the 360 outsold ps3 + wiiu combined...and we know that the wii u must have sold more 400k (black friday) this means that sony must have sold less than 860k ps3...am i right?

Didn't they already say twice as much as any other system? So well under 860k.
 

Miles X

Member
so when microsoft sold 1.26 million 360...and according to npd the 360 outsold ps3 + wiiu combined...and we know that the wii u must have sold more 400k (black friday) this means that sony must have sold less than 860k ps3...am i right?

They say 'nearly double every other console' so min for PS3 is 630k, but if it were 860 I doubt they'd say nearly. Never know though.
 
Updated the OP:

Xbox 360: 1.26M (-25.9%) - Nearly 2x every other console and more than Wii U + Wii combined.
Nintendo 3DS: 540K (-32.1%)
Nintendo Wii U: 425K
Nintendo Wii: 420K (-51.1%)
Nintendo DS: 370K (+5.7%)

Results so far.
Plus a minimum of 210K for PSV and 630K for PS3, I believe.

[360] 1250K -10K
[3DS] 500K -40K
[PS3] 700K -60K?
[PSV] 190K -20-30K?
[WII] 400K -20K
[WIU] 425K +0

Hmm ~150-160K off.
Underpredicted handhelds and PS3 a lot.
 

Goldmund

Member

jvm

Gamasutra.
Using my own estimations, I would get this:
[360] 1250K 10K
[PS3] 690K 70K
[3DS] 500K 40K
[WIU] 425K 0K
[WII] 400K 20K
[PSV] 220K 0K
Total of 140K. Waiting on donny2112 who will be using official figures.

I also got the order right, so a decent month.

Not too bad (before PS3 numbers), but I got Wii>WiU :-(
If my estimate of 760K is close, then you're in good shape! Other than the order...
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
Using jvm's numbers I'd be 151k off, so a good month although I have Wii and Wii U switched :p
Who is this jmv, and are his figures any different from mine? ;)

Edit: Oooh. You edited. :) Dang it.

The following ASPs were in my column:
PS3: $238
360: $227
WIU: $338
WII: $108

The missing ones are:
PSV: $231
3DS: $173
NDS: $100
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
I'm not publishing anything else, and I doubt we'll get anything concrete until *maybe* Nintendo's briefing after the first of the year.

What say you, donny2112?
 

donny2112

Member
What say you, donny2112?

Waited longer than usual hoping that Sony or another news place would come through with PS3, but, alas, no dice. Therefore, no numbers in the results again. Think we've maybe been able to have numbers in the results 1-2 months this year? :(

Since not all the results are public, no numerical results are shown here. Also, rankings are just a counter, so if two people are tied, it isn't shown here.

NeoGAF Prediction Results - November 2012

Units

1. Hammer24
2. doicare
3. confuziz
4. andy_lhc
5. jvm
6. pitseleh
7. GAF_Agg
8. Bruno MB
9. donny2112
10. shinra-bansho
11. allan-bh
12. Elios83
13. rayner
14. Dynopia
15. Jonsoncao
16. Road
17. ohlawd
18. ItWasMeantToBe19
19. Zero-Crescent
20. KillerMan91
21. opticalmace
22. Goldmund
23. Nemo
24. archnemesis
25. NateDrake
26. Hiro_Kunimi_80
27. noobie
28. Brakara
29. michaelius
30. TyRaNtM
31. rostocker
32. skedar897
33. TurkishEmperor
34. Pachter
35. JDSN
36. Randolph Freelander
37. Strike
38. Claymores
39. CronoShot
40. CrankyKong
41. uchihasasuke
42. MasterSheen
43. Hcoregamer00
44. antonz
45. jamesinclair
46. Rarity
47. NemesisPrime
48. alphaNoid
49. BlackJace
50. nickcv
51. Megadragon15
52. Colonel Mustard
53. Thoraxes
54. Jesse2040
55. Gianni Merryman
56. Drago
57. Smiles and Cries
58. Kenka
59. iamvin22


Points
Code:
     November 2012                   Overall 2012 Top (9/11)
01.  andy_lhc               ---.--   shinra-bansho          ---.--
02.  Hammer24               ---.--   Road                   ---.--
03.  jvm                    ---.--   ItWasMeantToBe19       ---.--
04.  pitseleh               ---.--   jvm                    ---.--
05.  doicare                ---.--   allan-bh               ---.--
06.  confuziz               ---.--   Zero-Crescent          ---.--
07.  shinra-bansho          ---.--   Bruno MB               ---.--
08.  opticalmace            ---.--   Nemo                   ---.--
09.  Road                   ---.--   Brakara                ---.--
10.  ItWasMeantToBe19       ---.--   donny2112              ---.--
11.  Jonsoncao              ---.--   Jonsoncao              ---.--
12.  noobie                 ---.--   pitseleh               ---.--
13.  skedar897              ---.--   doicare                ---.--
14.  rostocker              ---.--   archnemesis            ---.--
15.  Bruno MB               ---.--   Hammer24               ---.--
16.  uchihasasuke           ---.--   confuziz               ---.--
17.  donny2112              ---.--   Pachter                ---.--
18.  allan-bh               ---.--   Elios83                ---.--
19.  JDSN                   ---.--   andy_lhc               ---.--
20.  CronoShot              ---.--   Strike                 ---.--
21.  Elios83                ---.--   rayner                 ---.--
22.  Dynopia                ---.--   skedar897              ---.--
23.  rayner                 ---.--   noobie                 ---.--
24.  Nemo                   ---.--   Jesse2040              ---.--
25.  Zero-Crescent          ---.--   Hiro_Kunimi_80         ---.--
26.  KillerMan91            ---.--   rostocker              ---.--
27.  NateDrake              ---.--   Megadragon15           ---.--
28.  ohlawd                 ---.--   MasterSheen            ---.--
29.  Randolph Freelander    ---.--   Goldmund               ---.--
30.  Hiro_Kunimi_80         ---.--   Dynopia                ---.--
31.  archnemesis            ---.--   Colonel Mustard        ---.--
32.  BlackJace              ---.--   NateDrake              ---.--
33.  Pachter                ---.--   GhaleonEB              ---.--
34.  TyRaNtM                ---.--   uchihasasuke           ---.--
35.  Drago                  ---.--   Gianni Merryman        ---.--
36.  Brakara                ---.--   Dedication Through L   ---.--
37.  michaelius             ---.--   kefka2030              ---.--
38.  antonz                 ---.--   MatthewB92             ---.--
39.  alphaNoid              ---.--   Saiyar                 ---.--
40.  Goldmund               ---.--   ohlawd                 ---.--
41.  TurkishEmperor         ---.--   michaelius             ---.--
42.  Rarity                 ---.--   Jokeropia              ---.--
43.  MasterSheen            ---.--   Petrae                 ---.--
44.  CrankyKong             ---.--   Delusibeta             ---.--
45.  Hcoregamer00           ---.--   starship               ---.--
46.  jamesinclair           ---.--   metalslimer            ---.--
47.  Claymores              ---.--   TurkishEmperor         ---.--
48.  Thoraxes               ---.--   Drago                  ---.--
49.  Colonel Mustard        ---.--   BLaZiN PRopHeT         ---.--
50.  Strike                 ---.--   TyRaNtM                ---.--

Congratulations, Hammer24 and andy_lhc! :D

Edit:
Can't give the precise difference, but shinra-bansho is leading by > 20 points overall for the year going into the last month. :eek:
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
Waited longer than usual hoping that Sony or another news place would come through with PS3, but, alas, no dice. Therefore, no numbers in the results again. Think we've maybe been able to have numbers in the results 1-2 months this year? :(
Thanks donny2112. I think my PS estimates are looking Ok, based on top 5 in units.

Congrats to winners!
 
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