Heavily overclocked vs. factory overclock is never a fair comparison.
Hoping this turns out true, time to upgrade my 5970 and the 7970 wasnt enough to make me do it.
Anyway, I wont buy Nvidia because AMD's drivers are so much better
I'd be genuinely shocked if their ( according to the op ) "mid-tier" gtx 660/760 beats a 7970.
Nor is comparing a 3gb card vs a 1.5gb one in eyefinity resolutions...
Something tells me stock 7970 vs stock 580 equal amount of ram, at the same resolution is another story - standard/common res, e.g 1080p.
There's an answer for that - there is no other GTX 580 that can do 3 or more monitors on a single card. Nvidia limited them all to two (unless you do SLI) and Galaxy's MDT is the first to have more than that. So there's no way to do a 3GB to 3GB comparison.
And you're kidding yourself if you think a 7970 and a GTX 580 3GB are close.
Why is there only a 30% chance that benchmarks like this will include a Source game. Couldn't give less of a crap about whatever engine an F1 game is on, but every benchmark test seems to go out of their way to include it or crap like it
Correct, which is why I think it's a stupid benchmark to be used in order to relatively compare the two cards. It's an extremely situational scenario and/or niche market in the grand scheme of things.
People talking about sli 3gbs being close to 1 7970 are kidding themselves, and no I don't think I'm out of line thinking a 7970 is "only" 25% faster than a 580, stock.
Anyway, I wont buy Nvidia because AMD's drivers are so much better, but I hope the competition brings prices down.
Except they didn't...they did both Eyefinity and no Eyefinity comparisons. So you really have no issue here. Link for reference: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/01/09/amd_radeon_hd_7970_overclocking_performance_review/1. It's around 30% faster in standard (non-Eyefinity).
Never said anything about 580 SLI of any flavor comparing to a 7970 in benchmarks.
Wh... Oh, I see that people have beaten me to it.
At any rate, was this news surprising to anyone? AMD and nVidia have been leapfrogging each other for years.
I'd be genuinely shocked if their ( according to the op ) "mid-tier" gtx 660/760 beats a 7970.
Wh... Oh, I see that people have beaten me to it.
At any rate, was this news surprising to anyone? AMD and nVidia have been leapfrogging each other for years.
I agree, but the OP may have been indicating that if the GK104 handily beats AMD's mid-tier, then the high-end part (GK100 iirc) will likely do the same with the 7970.
The article itself is vague about which AMD part GK104 is beating. My assumption would be that they are comparing it to unpublished numbers for the 7950 or 7870, but that's obviously just speculation.
why do people buy top end amd cards over nvidia ones?
im genuinely interested, because from what i've seen nvidia has better drivers resulting
in better performance, better antialiasing support and compatability with numerous profiles,
and they seem to outperform the amd cards whilst costing around the same.
Call me when nVidia allows Multi Monitor setups to run on one GPU, I drive this with 1*6950 :
why do people buy top end amd cards over nvidia ones?
im genuinely interested, because from what i've seen nvidia has better drivers resulting
in better performance, better antialiasing support and compatability with numerous profiles,
and they seem to outperform the amd cards whilst costing around the same.
I don't understand what's so hard to believe on AMD cards and drivers being pretty good.
I'll be the first one in line to buy this card if this turns out true - you really need to put down the green glasses and stop being so over sensitive.And the thread was posted by irfan. Some Twilight Zone shit going on here.
That...is...glorious.
However the topmost monitor would surely cause major neck pain after a while.
nVidia typically has the fastest single GPU, while AMD/ATI offered better bang/buck. Can't wait for Kepler to come out to drive some actual competition.
AMD has priced their cards based on market conditions and product positioning - yes the same thing that applied to 4800 series, 5800 series, 6900 series applies to the 7970 as well.They used to offer better price/performance. That is, until they decided to go fucking crazy with the price on the 7970.
I'm not surprised at this at all. I said before it was a bad move for Mac to go ATI. I think ATI is fine for budget gaming but, I would never dream of using them for anything else.
I'm not surprised at this at all. I said before it was a bad move for Mac to go ATI. I think ATI is fine for budget gaming but, I would never dream of using them for anything else.
AMD has priced their cards based on market conditions and product positioning - yes the same thing that applied to 4800 series, 5800 series, 6900 series applies to the 7970 as well.
Video card that's not out yet will outperform video card that's out now.
News at 11.
If only that was still how things went.
People here were cooing over the 7970 being 30 percent faster than the gtx580 which is over a year old now, like it's some fucking miracle
No backsies now.
Why is it so taboo to just prefer AMD over Nvidia?
Why is there only a 30% chance that benchmarks like this will include a Source game. Couldn't give less of a crap about whatever engine an F1 game is on, but every benchmark test seems to go out of their way to include it or crap like it
Call me when nVidia allows Multi Monitor setups to run on one GPU, I drive this with 1*6950 :
I'll be the first one in line to buy this card if this turns out true - you really need to put down the green glasses and stop being so over sensitive.
I dunno, troll attempt maybe?Nope, still not getting it. Someone explain it to me?
So, what do you guys think are the chances Sony will use a Kepler based GPU on the next Playstation?
Cause if this "report" by CD is true, a console with this GPU architecture would be awesome, even if it was a mainstream part.
You are right, it has actually been quite stable.
AMD makes it to the market first, Nvidia arrives fashionably late
AMD has the best dual card, Nvidia has the best single card
AMD usually has a few driver support problems, Nvidia cost a little more and uses a little more power
AMD has Eyefinity, Nvidia has much better 3D gaming support
The only wild cards have been anti-aliasing support (which to me seems even right now, especially since most use MSAA+FXAA) and SLI/Xfire performance.
I still don't see how people have such strong bonds to either side. What ever card has the best performance at $250 is mine in June.