Considering that the 7970 was already far from a quiet card, the noise increase is quite significant. Computerbase actually called it "unbelievably loud" under load.
Anway, I'm more interested in finding out more about 660.
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Anway, I'm more interested in finding out more about 660.
specialguy
Banned
Apparently Sea Islands aka 8000 series taped out recently, so...
Dave Baumman said something like, all the retail cards will use quieter aftermarket fans from AIB's though, reference Ghz 7970's wont exist if I understand correctly. Seems a communication issue they should have communicated to reviewers better.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah, Serious Sam 3 runs pretty shitty. Curious how it'll go with two 680's. Though, I guess if it's CPU related, not going to make much difference.
joeygreco1985
Member
Just wanted to say the beta drivers really smoothed out diablo 3. Huge difference
DrBaalzamon
Member
I've had a similar experience. I am waiting in the EVGA Step Up program to get my 670, with my current EVGA 560 Ti 448 Classified Ultra I used to get weird and random stuttering and issues. Now, I have MSAA 4x and Ambient Occlusion on and its smooth as butter. I have VSYNC set at the application level as well, havent tried adaptive yet.
PowerK
Member
What makes you guys think Serious Sam 3 BFE is CPU bound game? I haven't played it for a several weeks now. But last time I checked, performance was good (although SLI scaling wasn't that great).
nextgeneration
Member
It is a cpu bound game. In the Steam forums, Croteam commented that in certain scenes, it's very much cpu bound.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
First 680 should arrive tomorrow! I hope the second arrives by the end of the week.
I have no clue if it's CPU bound, he said it, I believe him.
I have 2500k, 8 gigs ram, and 560 ti's Sli. The game still runs pretty crappy without a lot of the settings even cranked to max.
I have no clue if it's CPU bound, he said it, I believe him.
I have 2500k, 8 gigs ram, and 560 ti's Sli. The game still runs pretty crappy without a lot of the settings even cranked to max.
PowerK
Member
Hmm.. I think the quote pretty much applies to every game. There are areas where CPU limits GPU and vice versa.
nextgeneration
Member
Maybe. In any case, I personally believe it's CPU bound and think that's the reason why frame rates aren't so hot. I could be wrong, though.
Zombie James
Banned
Weird, I thought the 660 was launching today?
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-images-leaked-launching-25th-june/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-images-leaked-launching-25th-june/
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
It is, did a lot of reading up on this game. Check the net it's definitely cpu bound.
On beginning of Iron Clad I took everything to low settings, still at 1080P. Cranked up to Ultra, there was like a 5 fps-10fps change. Now that does not mean it's cpu bound I suppose. But I read up on performance issues with this game for a good hour and everyone seems to have come to the conclusion that it's bound by the cpu.
Look at my benchmarks for evidence that Serious Sam 3 is CPU-bound:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37650068&postcount=3316
I don't know why it is, but it is.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37650068&postcount=3316
I don't know why it is, but it is.
Could be the number of moving objects on the screen. Most of that backend stuff (physics) is CPU related. Serious Sam has a serious number of enemies running around.
Maybe, but I'm betting it's simply a matter of the experience of the developers. It's a small team that doesn't have much experience making a ton of games, so there are probably a huge number of inefficiencies that put extra stress on the CPU instead of taking advantage of GPUs to off-load a lot of that. Easier to do, and it lets them release an astoundingly beautiful game on a small budget.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Could someone help me choose which 670 I should be getting from this collection. Need something that's quite even when OC'd. Cheers.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=193_1387
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=193_1387
The GTX 670 Power Edition.
Silence + furious Overclocking + great cooling.
Too bad that it is not yet available where I live.
Thanks. What is a blower cooler? Link? Pic?
I already have two very good fans in the case and it's pretty good. Hopefully it won't be too hot in there.
Checking in after approx 1 month ownership of a GTX 680.
I'll preface it with my PC specs. I've got a Thuban 6 core Phenom II, BIOS tweaked to turn off all the frequency changing. It runs 3.8Ghz constant, on 6 Phenom II cores. Wish a blog would benchmark it. It's actually beastly.
EVGA GTX 680 OC. I cranked all the sliders in Precision X and it never reaches 1.2Ghz, but it get's close. 1180s. 8 GB RAM yada yada, regular 7200prm hdd. W7 x64 and all that.
Upgraded from a EVGA GTX 580 with the EVGA custom cooler (universally defective, I might add, the fans buzz on -all- of them).
OK. The 680 is dramatically smaller than my 580 and old 275 (which is bigger than the 580
). It's a reference fan design, which I think I'm going back to. I always get really small mid tower cases, and the CPU-esque HSF that all these companies are making doesn't do as well as the reference, exhaust based cooling system, IME. The 680 has never reached 80c, and the fan has never been noticeable over my CPU fan. Very nice. My 275 had the same exhaust based system, but the fan was much louder. My 580 fans buzzed ( a quick speed change would fix it) so the 680 really wins here. Temps are great. The 580 seemed to get insanely hot in games that I used control panel/Inspector SSAA. Talking 98c hot, and my case is clean with good airflow (aforementioned Phenom II doesn't hit 50c).
So aside from being really cool and quiet, it's perfectly stable. I don't really understand how to overclock it, but there aren't many games it can't eat anyways. BF3 yada yada.
Also, I swear to god, I don't know why, but the text on my desktop is clearer and overall better looking. I don't know if Nvidia did some things with the core IQ software in the chips, but yeah, I never had that reaction after installing a new GPU.
The ship sailed on selling a 580 for a good price and doing a cheap upgrade, but I'm happy I got in where I did (got $300 out of mine). To me it's a worthy update for the heat factor, and I'd like to add a third monitor to my set up sometime. 580 can only push 2.
So yeah, for a first generation architecture, Kepler is nice. Where Fermi was more raw power, muscle car type of GPU, Kepler is more like a Porsche.
I'll preface it with my PC specs. I've got a Thuban 6 core Phenom II, BIOS tweaked to turn off all the frequency changing. It runs 3.8Ghz constant, on 6 Phenom II cores. Wish a blog would benchmark it. It's actually beastly.
EVGA GTX 680 OC. I cranked all the sliders in Precision X and it never reaches 1.2Ghz, but it get's close. 1180s. 8 GB RAM yada yada, regular 7200prm hdd. W7 x64 and all that.
Upgraded from a EVGA GTX 580 with the EVGA custom cooler (universally defective, I might add, the fans buzz on -all- of them).
OK. The 680 is dramatically smaller than my 580 and old 275 (which is bigger than the 580
). It's a reference fan design, which I think I'm going back to. I always get really small mid tower cases, and the CPU-esque HSF that all these companies are making doesn't do as well as the reference, exhaust based cooling system, IME. The 680 has never reached 80c, and the fan has never been noticeable over my CPU fan. Very nice. My 275 had the same exhaust based system, but the fan was much louder. My 580 fans buzzed ( a quick speed change would fix it) so the 680 really wins here. Temps are great. The 580 seemed to get insanely hot in games that I used control panel/Inspector SSAA. Talking 98c hot, and my case is clean with good airflow (aforementioned Phenom II doesn't hit 50c).So aside from being really cool and quiet, it's perfectly stable. I don't really understand how to overclock it, but there aren't many games it can't eat anyways. BF3 yada yada.
Also, I swear to god, I don't know why, but the text on my desktop is clearer and overall better looking. I don't know if Nvidia did some things with the core IQ software in the chips, but yeah, I never had that reaction after installing a new GPU.
The ship sailed on selling a 580 for a good price and doing a cheap upgrade, but I'm happy I got in where I did (got $300 out of mine). To me it's a worthy update for the heat factor, and I'd like to add a third monitor to my set up sometime. 580 can only push 2.
So yeah, for a first generation architecture, Kepler is nice. Where Fermi was more raw power, muscle car type of GPU, Kepler is more like a Porsche.
The Corsair 600tm is what you need.
I have one and i'm impressed how silent my rig is now.
Go over to the I Need a New PC thread, have a look at the OP cases.
Quiet computers are a component choice as much as a case. The low end of the spectrum you have the BitFenix Shinobi. Go a bit higher and then there's the Fractal Define R3, which is a great piece of kit.
Then you want low RPM 120mm fans, like NoiseBlockers, low RPM Yate Loons/Scythe, various Noctuas, or Bitfenix Spectre/Spectre Pros.
You also want a decent CPU cooler with low fin density so you can get good performance from low RPM fans.
Finally you want a videocard that has a great aftermarket cooler. MSI Twin Frozr II, ASUS DCII, and the Gigabyte ones are great.
The 600T is actually quite loud in comparison. The 200mm fans that come stock on it are pretty terrible, and the grille design to hold the filters in place cause a ton of turbulence which creates additional noise.
For quiet PSU's, you can't get better than the Corsair AX/Seasonic X (both the same, made by Seasonic). The fan doesnt even spin unless it's under load. Even if it is, it is still whisper quiet.
PowerK
Member
Check the net ? Hehe..
I've just a had round of SS3 in Iron Cloud, I've never seen my FPS below 60 frames per second. (adpative v-sync) It was butter smooth. This is at 2560x1600 everything maxed with nvcp forced 4xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA (in-game FXAA turned off). 3770K @ 4.5GHz + 16GB 2133MHz + GTX 690 Quad-SLI.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
Installed my 690 GTX yesterday:
Found my stable oc today:
Benched:
before oc:
after oc:
Looks good man.
Found my stable oc today:
Benched:
before oc:
after oc:
Looks good man.
I'm dying waiting for more news on the GK112. Fuuuuuck.
Yikes. Try a complete uninstall and reinstall on drivers?
Tarin02543
Member
Installed my 690 GTX yesterday:
Why is there a Rolls Royce jet engine in your pc?
Ok PC gaf. I thinking of switching VC.
I kinda like Atis but i always choose the best bang for the buck and that seems to be the 670. But at the same time, I kinda like to keep myself at the top of the line, so the 680 sounds like the right choice.
I would pick a 7970 but i heard for the price is not worth it, and also the GHz models seems to be noisy.
BTW the reason i doubt the 670 is because My country is really warm so there is a lot less room for OC
I kinda like Atis but i always choose the best bang for the buck and that seems to be the 670. But at the same time, I kinda like to keep myself at the top of the line, so the 680 sounds like the right choice.
I would pick a 7970 but i heard for the price is not worth it, and also the GHz models seems to be noisy.
BTW the reason i doubt the 670 is because My country is really warm so there is a lot less room for OC
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
I have to have a bad card or something. Running more test, this 680 is slower/the same performance as my 480 in most games and a little faster in a few.
My setup is almost the same, except my CPU is clocked a little higher at 4ghz. I get terrible performance out of this thing. STALKER complete running sub 60fps, Witcher 2 in the 20s, CRysis 2 in the 20s, Shogun 2 in the 30s. This is all maxed out and@ 1080p. These things are supposed to be able to go on 3 monitor setups. I put one on and was getting 5fps in everything I tried.
Checking in after approx 1 month ownership of a GTX 680.
I'll preface it with my PC specs. I've got a Thuban 6 core Phenom II, BIOS tweaked to turn off all the frequency changing. It runs 3.8Ghz constant, on 6 Phenom II cores. Wish a blog would benchmark it. It's actually beastly.
EVGA GTX 680 OC. I cranked all the sliders in Precision X and it never reaches 1.2Ghz, but it get's close. 1180s. 8 GB RAM yada yada, regular 7200prm hdd. W7 x64 and all that.
Upgraded from a EVGA GTX 580 with the EVGA custom cooler (universally defective, I might add, the fans buzz on -all- of them).
OK. The 680 is dramatically smaller than my 580 and old 275 (which is bigger than the 580
So aside from being really cool and quiet, it's perfectly stable. I don't really understand how to overclock it, but there aren't many games it can't eat anyways. BF3 yada yada.
Also, I swear to god, I don't know why, but the text on my desktop is clearer and overall better looking. I don't know if Nvidia did some things with the core IQ software in the chips, but yeah, I never had that reaction after installing a new GPU.
The ship sailed on selling a 580 for a good price and doing a cheap upgrade, but I'm happy I got in where I did (got $300 out of mine). To me it's a worthy update for the heat factor, and I'd like to add a third monitor to my set up sometime. 580 can only push 2.
So yeah, for a first generation architecture, Kepler is nice. Where Fermi was more raw power, muscle car type of GPU, Kepler is more like a Porsche.
My setup is almost the same, except my CPU is clocked a little higher at 4ghz. I get terrible performance out of this thing. STALKER complete running sub 60fps, Witcher 2 in the 20s, CRysis 2 in the 20s, Shogun 2 in the 30s. This is all maxed out and@ 1080p. These things are supposed to be able to go on 3 monitor setups. I put one on and was getting 5fps in everything I tried.
I'm checking this thread everyday just for some news on that fucking card.
specialguy
Banned
It seems to be delayed till July (duh) or August now.
But oh yeah, one rumor is they had too many 570's left and are waiting for them to clear out first.
Plus I'm not even sure what form it will take. Are Nvidia going to drop a rumored even further chopped down GK104 at $300 next, or an actual new mid range chip?
The sad thing Nvidia has enough fanboys they probably dont have to do anything. I bet 670 sells as much as AMD's whole lineup. And $400 is the new $200, inflation and all. $400 is actually a sort of mid range card now.
slackboy72
Banned
So are people who bought 680s fanboys now?
what did i just read???????????????
The guy has a serious AMD agenda, don't mind him.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Me too man. Really don't want to go Team Red.
Apparently it's made of oil.
Oh, wait, not even that's had any inflation in the last couple years.
Considering how everything's gone in the toilet, the new 200 dollars should be 100 dollars.
670 is hardly a mid range card either ... lol.
Welcome me to the club buys
Got my EVGA FTW GTX680 4GB last week. Games run phenomenally. Crysis w/hi-res pack @ 1080p = 55-60fps almost all the time. Gonna try the new beta drivers.
Quick question....does this EVGA FTW 6804GB card come factory overclocked? If not, can I proceed to overclock it and if so, up to how fast?
Got my EVGA FTW GTX680 4GB last week. Games run phenomenally. Crysis w/hi-res pack @ 1080p = 55-60fps almost all the time. Gonna try the new beta drivers.
Quick question....does this EVGA FTW 6804GB card come factory overclocked? If not, can I proceed to overclock it and if so, up to how fast?
According to PCPer mid-range Kepler should be out in 'August' so it's going to be more waiting for those looking for the GTX 660.
Compared to what AMD has in the market no, looking at it's design and what was likely originally planned yes, GK104 was supposed to be the mid-range chip. Now whether it's the result of facing a poor financial reality or if it's collusion to bring up prices we can't really say. Only the people in the boardroom know.
Had AMD released a much stronger 7970 part you can bet that you'd be seeing the GK110 in consumer products.
Compared to what AMD has in the market no, looking at it's design and what was likely originally planned yes, GK104 was supposed to be the mid-range chip. Now whether it's the result of facing a poor financial reality or if it's collusion to bring up prices we can't really say. Only the people in the boardroom know.
Had AMD released a much stronger 7970 part you can bet that you'd be seeing the GK110 in consumer products.