Both PS4 and XBO were initially revealed with only a handful of games and tech demos.
Are they making enough money from the Wii U and 3DS to remain sustainable until then?
I called off work so I could catch all of the E3 conferences this year. Lasts years was amazing for all the reveals Sony had. Personally I don't think it's E3 that's becoming irrelevant so much as I think it's Nintendo disappointing people.
What the fuck Nintendo. You never fail to disappoint. They seem to have their collective heads so far up their asses at this point that they can't even hear what's going on in the outside world.
Not only are they not showing NX at the only E3 before its launch, but they're also only going to have ONE playable game on the floor?
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
If GameXplain is disappointed, you know Nintendo fucked it.
One of the biggest problems with Wii U at E3 2012 was that Nintendo only showed off a handful of games, and basically all of them were games we'd seen or heard about before.
This led to the (in fact correct) perception that Wii U only had a handful of games to show. Nintendo released their panic mode Wii U Direct in January 2013 showing mostly games that wouldn't come out for more than two years.
If it's not immediately clear when they reveal NX that it will have tons of games, they shouldn't have revealed NX.
On that timeline, the NX won't launch in 2016. It'll be late 2017.
Much of that buzz was for Splatoon, which went on to become one of their biggest Wii U hits.Lol, 2014 Nintendo was the highest trending company across social media for their Digital Event and Treehouse Live while Sony and MS largely died off after their events.
Treehouse Live also had consistent viewer shit in the millions too.
Viewership doesn't matter, content does.
Good work stating the obvious and helping to prove my point that the viewership count means diddly squat and it's the content of the system that matters more than any of that crap. And that constantly citing that E3 is bigger than ever now for viewership also means diddly squat in how many systems will get sold.
Content is all that matters of the system. Sony has lots of it. MS squandered their trust with their dumb DRM stuff and Wii U just didn't have much going for it.
There ya go, clear winner that had fucking nothing to do with E3.
Good work stating the obvious and helping to prove my point that the viewership count means diddly squat and it's the content of the system that matters more than any of that crap. And that constantly citing that E3 is bigger than ever now for viewership also means diddly squat in how many systems will get sold.
Content is all that matters of the system. Sony has lots of it. MS squandered their trust with their dumb DRM stuff and Wii U just didn't have much going for it.
There ya go, clear winner that had fucking nothing to do with E3.
I agree. Once Nintendo announces the NX reveal event or whatever the hype train will be at full blast again!Yeah short-term, as they said. Long-term, it means very little.
Bruh, I loooooooooove E3.
The Wii U was unveiled almost a year and a half from its release date. Not showing off the NX at an E3 less than a year before release doesn't make any sense, a difference of two-to-three months from E3 to whenever it's revealed isn't going to make a barren launch window lineup into one full of games. For games that aren't ready for live game demos just put out a CGI or concept trailer and guarantee a 2017 release, it's that simple.
Exactly. You just showed how much E3 matters. It's the content that matters not just "omg they're at E3" lol
Much of that buzz was for Splatoon, which went on to become one of their biggest Wii U hits.
Media buzz does matter. While it's certainly not the only factor, I'm sure Nintendo would rather have more people talking about their console than less.
A handheld will almost certainly succeed either way if most other things about it are right. A console from Nintendo, however, needs all the help it can get. One mistake and it's done.
I'm talking about what Nintendo most likely thinks. Kimishima expects higher profit margins, and something digital like mobile would help to explain why. This is also why you shouldn't be shocked when NX makes a huge push toward digital.
I just hope it's stacked and impressive. That doesn't guarantee sales but I look at it that way. Too much is on the line for them to rush out a console.I hope that Nintendo doesnt launch the console too late again, like what happened to wii u.
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Of all people, i didn't expect Gerstmann to add to the E³ relevance discussion, and not with this opinion.
Still, NX having it's own event is fine, but a little tease at E³ wouldn't have hurt them. Unveil the name, show one game, and mention the standalone event again.
That's true. I'm only upset because I love Nintendo games and just want to play more of them.The thing that is making people upset about the idea of Nintendo "regrouping" for the next year is basically that we all thought this past year was their "regrouping" year. So they're basically taking two years to "regroup." I'm sure they need it, but that doesn't make it any less galling.
People are accustomed to these guarantees not panning out at this point.
Except for Wii U it didn't do anything, because they were trending in 2014 for their content actually, that didn't change its fortunes.
But that's not how things actually played out for the most part. Looking at Wii hardware sales compared to its competitors and Wii software sales in its first two years on the market, the mainstream gamer picked up a Wii first, then jumped ship to the PS360 after seeing that the rest of the industry didn't follow and that Nintendo seemed to be pivoting more towards their expanded audience.
There is no market for a secondary (or even worse, third) console, especially now that there are more gadgets vying for the consumer's attention than ever before.
Has the doom and gloom run its course yet?
No, it's at that point that they realize that the whole real-life Zelda dungeon *WAS* Zelda running on the NX, creating a holographic dungeon around the players!So I can see the console reveal now.
Nintendo makes their entire E3 booth Zelda themed, like the Twilight Princess booth back in the day. Full on Building that is a dungeon, with Torches lining the walls. But instead of just demo stations inside there is a real life zelda dungeon that the press must solve, unlocking more and more of the booth. Finally, who ever completes the entire dungeon booth will find a secret room with a chest. As they open it the Zelda fanfare plays and what is inside? THE NX WITH ZELDA RUNNING ON IT. The console is revealed for all to see and we all get played like a bunch of puppets.
Mark my words, it is happening.
We're still in that phase. Give it a few more days lolHas the doom and gloom run its course yet?
Running at 900p with an average of 20 fps.So I can see the console reveal now.
Nintendo makes their entire E3 booth Zelda themed, like the Twilight Princess booth back in the day. Full on Building that is a dungeon, with Torches lining the walls. But instead of just demo stations inside there is a real life zelda dungeon that the press must solve, unlocking more and more of the booth. Finally, who ever completes the entire dungeon booth will find a secret room with a chest. As they open it the Zelda fanfare plays and what is inside? THE NX WITH ZELDA RUNNING ON IT. The console is revealed for all to see and we all get played like a bunch of puppets.
Mark my words, it is happening.
You use a view count of 3-1 million to prove a viewership of 21 million doesn't matter? Dude that's laughably delusional and with that I'm not gonna waste my time anymore.
Much of that buzz was for Splatoon, which went on to become one of their biggest Wii U hits.
Media buzz does matter. While it's certainly not the only factor, I'm sure Nintendo would rather have more people talking about their console than less.
So I can see the console reveal now.
Nintendo makes their entire E3 booth Zelda themed, like the Twilight Princess booth back in the day. Full on Building that is a dungeon, with Torches lining the walls. But instead of just demo stations inside there is a real life zelda dungeon that the press must solve, unlocking more and more of the booth. Finally, who ever completes the entire dungeon booth will find a secret room with a chest. As they open it the Zelda fanfare plays and what is inside? THE NX WITH ZELDA RUNNING ON IT. The console is revealed for all to see and we all get played like a bunch of puppets.
Mark my words, it is happening.
Do you think Splatoon would have been as big of a hit without the massive positive reaction out the gate?Except for Wii U it didn't do anything, because they were trending in 2014 for their content actually, that didn't change its fortunes.
So I can see the console reveal now.
Nintendo makes their entire E3 booth Zelda themed, like the Twilight Princess booth back in the day. Full on Building that is a dungeon, with Torches lining the walls. But instead of just demo stations inside there is a real life zelda dungeon that the press must solve, unlocking more and more of the booth. Finally, who ever completes the entire dungeon booth will find a secret room with a chest. As they open it the Zelda fanfare plays and what is inside? THE NX WITH ZELDA RUNNING ON IT. The console is revealed for all to see and we all get played like a bunch of puppets.
Mark my words, it is happening.
Has the doom and gloom run its course yet?
That's true. I'm only upset because I love Nintendo games and just want to play more of them.
A major lack of overall presence for two years is a bit longer than even the most seasoned of Nintendo's fans are accustomed to enduring. This will be the second straight holiday without a major console title from them. Sure Paper Mario may be great and all, but it's not really comparable to 3DWorld or Smash 4 in terms of being a major release from them.
This holiday, we are getting info about Nintendo's future instead of playable games. That is, I suppose, an okay substitute. But it also means that they need to have a lot amazing footage to show this fall to hype is up for next March. Not just Zelda.
We will need a full unveiling of some truly amazing stuff for fans to stay engaged in thinking about Nintendo. Mobile releases also have to be huge for them (they cannot afford delays there).
Serious question: is it true that Zelda WiiU will be the ONLY playable Nintendo game at E3 and if so, why? No 3ds games left? Nothing for WiiU? 3 days of Treehouse playing 1 game? What is going on?
Do you think Splatoon would have been as big of a hit without the massive positive reaction out the gate?
I'm not saying Nintendo needs to time their stuff at E3 to get people talking about them, but I do think word-of-mouth is still a powerful advertising tool.
Yeah, I guess we're agreed on this.Splatoon also had tons of marketing too. They really pushed that game and tried hard to make it as big as they could. Nintendo needs good marketing again too to reach more people. Their marketing has been pitiful on their home console side while their handheld side keeps hitting it out of the park with good ads.
Mind share is definitely important of course but I'd also say for Splatoon they went beyond E3. They even held a tournament. But mindshare alone won't ever be enough without the content to actually bring people in to your ecosystem.
...So I can see the console reveal now.
Nintendo makes their entire E3 booth Zelda themed, like the Twilight Princess booth back in the day. Full on Building that is a dungeon, with Torches lining the walls. But instead of just demo stations inside there is a real life zelda dungeon that the press must solve, unlocking more and more of the booth. Finally, who ever completes the entire dungeon booth will find a secret room with a chest. As they open it the Zelda fanfare plays and what is inside? THE NX WITH ZELDA RUNNING ON IT. The console is revealed for all to see and we all get played like a bunch of puppets.
Mark my words, it is happening.
Maybe it's an MMO Zelda?Serious question: is it true that Zelda WiiU will be the ONLY playable Nintendo game at E3 and if so, why? No 3ds games left? Nothing for WiiU? 3 days of Treehouse playing 1 game? What is going on?
The problem with announcing a console via a Direct as opposed to E3 is that Directs are often announced only a few days in advance, allowing little time for the word to flow around, whereas the dates for E3 are announced literally as soon as the last show ends, giving people an entire year to prepare.