Aquamarine
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So much better than Google.
There was a programme over here (UK) with hidden cameras where staff would complain about really long hours, and incredibly tight deadlines to pick all of the required stock from the shelves. These are usually one sided, and it didn't have a comparison of what it's like to work in any other highly demanding warehouse.
I used to work in Sainsburys whilst I was at college and that was pretty demanding, especially around peek times and seasons.
Are you in the US? Maybe it's worse where or something.
You just made me sad.
howcome it takes so long, considering its on kindle fire?
I keep seeing people say stuff like this, but in my 2 years of working at Amazon I haven't seen anything remotely like this. Sure, during peak season (Christmas) it gets a little hectic and you work some long hours, but most of the year you work a standard 40 hours a week with amazing benefits and relatively good working conditions. Free gatorade, 2 breaks and a lunch, air-conditioned buildings, free on-site medical care if you do get injured, etc. Some of the job positions can be physically challenging, but no more so than any other warehouse job.
So again, I'd really like to know why people have this impression. Also, I've worked at 5 different locations, and they have all been very similar with working conditions, so it's not just that one building is ok and the rest are terrible.
Twitch was always going to start doing the DRM stuff as they became more popular. I have no idea why people were blaming Google for that.Interesting twist.
But Twitch already adopted some of Googles practices by restricting music/soundtrack playback during pre-recorded video. Sorta self policing itself.
I guess Amazon is better than Google on paper. We'll see.
I mean this is why we don't use one person's reports. The reporting over Amazon's abominable treatment of employees has been extremely widespread, they're everywhere. Many of these practices are even acknowledged by Amazon, as ways they improve their "efficiency" at the expense of employees happiness.
I mean, you're listing gatorade, 2 breaks and a lunch and air conditioned buildings (this last one should basically be mandatory unless you're working in a foundry or some shit) as proof that a job is good. Almost every job I had has had 2 breaks and a lunch, and my job has a library and a movie store that you can rent even new releases for free. Many major companies also offer free on-site medical care, because they can get sued much worse if they don't, and because they have a higher employee turn around for going back and continuing working.
I'm not trying to say there aren't benefits to working at Amazon. As I said, if you need a job and there's no alternatives, there's no shame in it. But they have got to update the way they treat workers, if the majority of the reports we receive are true. I am sure there are some warehouses that are the exception, and perhaps you even work at one of them. But we workers need to stick up for our rights more. We shouldn't be celebrating air conditioning like it is some extreme generosity, and I'm sad for any person in the world who has to deal with uncomfortable, sweaty environments because their employer wants to save a few dimes. Thankfully Amazon does that much ;P
Anyway, this is why people have the impression they do. And this. And this. And this. And this. And of course this. And don't forget this.
The list goes on and on. Endless minor and major media outlets have covered what it is like for the average Amazon employee, and the picture it paints is bleak. The impression we therefore get - from the mouths of the employees themselves - is that on the average, it's a shitty place to work. And of course thinking of Unionization? Amazon is destructive as shit.
Of course everyone can be wrong. It's a possibility! And you may be the one who has the right of it. But I strongly suspect you're more likely to be an exception than the rule, judging by the endless reports from both the media and the individuals who work there.
I still think Twitch will continue down the ContentID road. Being bought by a huge company just means they'll be an even larger target for lawsuits, since litigants will know they can afford to pay up.
Still sucks about how twitch is dealing with the vod music nonsense.
The thing about Twitch's plan is that is puts all liability for those things onto Audible Magic, which is both good and bad.
What choice do they have, though? Just let people do whatever and then get sued into a crater when some record label decides it's not okay with their music being in VODs?
It was working fine for 3 years without a single issue, but I guess you're right. Audible Magic is a terrible service though It manages to class clapping as copyrighted music?!?
What could Amazon possibly do with Twitch? Really odd purchase.
I already buy my games off Amazon, but I agree this is a good idea.Promote sales of games on Amazon.
It was working fine for 3 years without a single issue, but I guess you're right. Audible Magic is a terrible service though It manages to class clapping as copyrighted music?!?
Awesome, glad to know we won't have to start signing up for Google+ to use Twitch.
If they were in fact getting bigger and bigger, they could have simply fought the DMCA in court. It certainly doesn't seem like there's a company big enough anymore that would fight the ridiculous copyright law.Twitch was rapidly expanding through those years, so the danger was getting bigger and bigger as time went on.
That's not to say their implementation is perfect; there's a lot of work to be done, but doing nothing was never an option.
Honestly, if you're a habitual Amazon user, there's no reason to not have it. The shipping alone has paid off for me.Amazon basically treats non-prime users like gutter trash now to force them to sign up. I'm predicting we'll see twitch prime with the same idea.
If they were in fact getting bigger and bigger, they could have simply fought the DMCA in court. It certainly doesn't seem like there's a company big enough anymore that would fight the ridiculous copyright law.
I think there's way too much passivity regarding this. Much like many other laws, there's no way the DMCA is a reasonable law, but since it's never gone to the supreme court, everyone just keeps twiddling their thumbs about it, running from it rather than facing it, even when they have the power to do so (and winning the case would be a landmark for better protections against false claimants, as well as saving an extraordinary amount of money in fees).
Producing shoddy technology to "solve" shoddy laws is no way of fixing the problem.
Tangentially, given that I support unions, most large companies tend to just come off as bullies whenever the issue is brought up.
It wouldn't be a small thing, but that's precisely why a company like Google or Twitch would be the only ones that could actually contest it and have a chance of winning. It would be an expensive fight, but one they could certainly win, and the amount of money they could save over time would be extraordinary, with its overturning.You make it sound like that would be some small thing lol.
You make it sound like that would be some small thing lol.
It wouldn't be a small thing, but that's precisely why a company like Google or Twitch would be the only ones that could actually contest it and have a chance of winning. It would be an expensive fight, but one they could certainly win, and the amount of money they could save over time would be extraordinary, with its overturning.
That's a shock. I thought for sure Google would end up with Twitch, but I love the idea of Amazon running things instead.
It wouldn't be a small thing, but that's precisely why a company like Google or Twitch would be the only ones that could actually contest it and have a chance of winning. It would be an expensive fight, but one they could certainly win, and the amount of money they could save over time would be extraordinary, with its overturning.