beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Jammy said:
the classic controller works pretty nicely, i think. i'm not sure how i feel about the clicky l&r buttons on the gamecube for long-jumps and the like in mario 64.
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Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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the classic controller works pretty nicely, i think. i'm not sure how i feel about the clicky l&r buttons on the gamecube for long-jumps and the like in mario 64.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
But Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 didn't support rumble on the original N64 either. Who knows whether or not the N64 VC games will support rumble or not.
Rocket Punch
Member
I wish there was a way to connect my N64 controller to play the N64 games on VC. God knows I'm gonna miss it when they release LoZ:OoT.
beelzebozo said:
Mario 64 looks so gorgeous. And just after I thought Mario 64 DS was decent, playing the original again...teh controls and just purity of it is so awesome.
The GCN controller is better than the classic for Mario 64, and I suspect, most N64 games. The calssic controller is better for SNES games, and I probably prefer the wii controller for NES games.
I've had no problems with the large L/R buttons.
I've been playing Military Madness a bit more (I just beat the third stage). So far the game is good, but there're two things that I don't like that much. One of them is not that bad, but the other one has game breaker potential.
The not so important thing is that you conquer (or get conquered) just by positioning your troops on the prision. No need to hold your position for a turn or something like that. You just reach the place, and you win (or lose).
The other thing is a bit more important, and it's the fact that results to battle are almost totally random. And by that I mean. You can enter battle with a set of tanks, have both the same attack, the same defense, the same number of tanks, and the outcome can be that you lose 2 tanks and it loses 3, that you lose, 3 tanks and it loses 4, that you lose one tank and it loses 8, or that you lose 6 and he loses none. The same way you can attack from a mountain and lose more troops that the machine who's defending from a road, or the other ay around. I have to deleve into the game a bit more to know how this will affect the game as a qhole, but at the moment, thinking strategies is not that fun, since even when you strategy is very good, if you have bad luck, you have big chances to lose. The same way, if you have good luck, you will probably win, even when your plan is bad.
So, well, yeah, those saying MM > AW must love random battles. Other than that, the game is pretty cool (except for the graphics, that are plain ugly).
The not so important thing is that you conquer (or get conquered) just by positioning your troops on the prision. No need to hold your position for a turn or something like that. You just reach the place, and you win (or lose).
The other thing is a bit more important, and it's the fact that results to battle are almost totally random. And by that I mean. You can enter battle with a set of tanks, have both the same attack, the same defense, the same number of tanks, and the outcome can be that you lose 2 tanks and it loses 3, that you lose, 3 tanks and it loses 4, that you lose one tank and it loses 8, or that you lose 6 and he loses none. The same way you can attack from a mountain and lose more troops that the machine who's defending from a road, or the other ay around. I have to deleve into the game a bit more to know how this will affect the game as a qhole, but at the moment, thinking strategies is not that fun, since even when you strategy is very good, if you have bad luck, you have big chances to lose. The same way, if you have good luck, you will probably win, even when your plan is bad.
So, well, yeah, those saying MM > AW must love random battles. Other than that, the game is pretty cool (except for the graphics, that are plain ugly).
JonathanEx
Member
No word on tonight's EU games? I know they're trying to hide them, but I think someone said you can find the games out if they are released elsewhere.
Chibbi Brady
Member
Yeah I thought we'd know at least 1 by now. Hopefully we'll get SMW and LttP but I doubt they'd release them together. As long as we get 1 of them and we don't get stuck with another Xevious update it'll be fine.
Unbiased Basturd
Member
Linkup said:This would be nice, but I don't think Sunsoft has anything on the VC yet.
Sometime soon hopefully
This is the best Batman game ever LOL
We need this and Journey To Silius...
Also, is Jaleco and Natsume signed for the VC?? We need Little Samson.
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
JonathanEx said:
Confirmed:
- Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link (NES)
- Super Mario World (SNES)
- Vigilante (Turbografx)
Possible:
- R-Type III (SNES)
No LttP this week, sorry.
Magicpaint
Member
Zelda II is nice and all, but I have that in the Collector's disc. Damnit nintendo give us Alttp!
Unbiased Basturd
Member
jarrod said:
Cool. I didn't think about R-Type. You're obviously right there.
__Andrea__
Member
Luigison said:
Watching the SNES controller there made me remember how good that control is... damn.
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
This just in:
Next VC releases for NA (tentative):
- Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
Next VC releases for Japan (tentative):
- Shin Megami Tensei (Super Famicom)
- Kamaitachi no Yoru (Super Famicom)
- Be Ball (PC Engine)
There could be others besides these ones. Stay tuned.
Next VC releases for NA (tentative):
- Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
Next VC releases for Japan (tentative):
- Shin Megami Tensei (Super Famicom)
- Kamaitachi no Yoru (Super Famicom)
- Be Ball (PC Engine)
There could be others besides these ones. Stay tuned.
Well, that was unexpected.DMczaf said:
I guess that's encouraging, it means more games released in Japan for the VC will eventually see release here if there was a translation, even games like this - and this game wasn't exactly on a lot of people's top ten lists.
Except maybe this guy:
I guess if there's a translation for it, the VC will probably get it. Will be interesting to see which exceptions there'll be for this rule, though.MacGuffin said:
Now bring on Uncharted Waters and Aerobiz.
GotchaForce
Member
Myke Greywolf said:
!!!!
No chance of it being translated for here, is there?
DefectiveReject
Banned
Super Mario World it is tomorrow then. But if its anything like Mario Bros or street fighter II wherein I have to take out my component cables to play them, Nintendo have their last VC dollar from me!
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
Sorry, just got confirmation that R-Type III is a no-go. Probably next week.
The other 3 are guaranteed, though.
The other 3 are guaranteed, though.
MasterMFauli
Banned
So...will i get my Super Mario World in 2 hours and 45 minutes? :-/
EphemeralDream
Member
I was thinking about how we all expected Nintendo to really stretch out the time between big 1st party VC releases but so far that hasn't been the case. By the end of this year, I would expect that most of the good 1st party games are up. Here are the titles that haven't been released anywhere yet (in regards to consoles up on VC):
Major Franchises
[Donkey Kong Rare] DKC2, DKC3, Donkey Kong 64
Earthbound
[Excitebike] Excitebike, Excitebike 64
F-Zero X
[Fire Emblem plz] 1-3
[Kirby] 5 games?
[Legend of Zelda] Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask
[Mario platfomers] Lost Levels (SMB2JP), USA (SMB2US), SMB3, SMW2: Yoshi's Island
[Mario Party] MP1, MP2, MP3
[Mario RPG games] Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario
[Metroid!] Metroid, Super Metroid
[Pilotwings] Pilotwings, Pilotwings 64
[Punch-Out] Punch-Out, Super Punch-Out
Smash Bros.
[StarFox] StarFox, StarFox 64
Super Mario Kart
Wave Race 64
And a bunch of little titles here and there: Clu Clu Land, Kung Fu, Pro Wrestling, Mario Paint, etc.
It seems like a lot but Nintendo put out 3 big games in a row in NA and it looks like the trend will continue. Virtual Console is showing potential and by the end of this console cycle it could be worth the price of a Wii alone.
Major Franchises
[Donkey Kong Rare] DKC2, DKC3, Donkey Kong 64
Earthbound
[Excitebike] Excitebike, Excitebike 64
F-Zero X
[Fire Emblem plz] 1-3
[Kirby] 5 games?
[Legend of Zelda] Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask
[Mario platfomers] Lost Levels (SMB2JP), USA (SMB2US), SMB3, SMW2: Yoshi's Island
[Mario Party] MP1, MP2, MP3
[Mario RPG games] Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario
[Metroid!] Metroid, Super Metroid
[Pilotwings] Pilotwings, Pilotwings 64
[Punch-Out] Punch-Out, Super Punch-Out
Smash Bros.
[StarFox] StarFox, StarFox 64
Super Mario Kart
Wave Race 64
And a bunch of little titles here and there: Clu Clu Land, Kung Fu, Pro Wrestling, Mario Paint, etc.
It seems like a lot but Nintendo put out 3 big games in a row in NA and it looks like the trend will continue. Virtual Console is showing potential and by the end of this console cycle it could be worth the price of a Wii alone.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Do you notice a big difference? Last monday, I set up my SNES with an original copy of SMW on an SDTV and then my Wii, with component cables, on my HDTV and didn't notice much of a difference, in fact SMW on the Wii looked better.DefectiveReject said:
AdmiralViscen
Banned
AoL is on the way in the US, I hope.
cartman414
Member
Oblivion said:
Perhaps, but most importantly, aside from also having less powerups and less interesting worlds, it lacked the intense platforming action of SMB3.
And word on some Adventure of Link. Totally not feeling DKC.
Zerodoppler
Member
SickBoy said:
Nintendo will have to get the Kawasaki license again for that game, so I doubt we'll see it anytime soon (if at all).
Unbiased Basturd
Member
Zerodoppler said:
**changes Kawasaki textures**
" Voila!"
Zerodoppler said:
If true, that sucks.
*burns Wii Points card*
Seriously, there's some stuff I'm interested in already, but I think my plan is to wait until the libraries are a little more fleshed out before I start spending like crazy. Don't want to spend all sorts of cash on classic games that I'm not going to play a lot...
DefectiveReject
Banned
I have a sharp aquos, and cable changing is annoying.com especially as some NES/SNES games work through component and some don't!
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
what
EphemeralDream
Member
DefectiveReject said:
How is this Nintendo's fault? No one is having trouble with these games but you. Maybe it's your television, component cables, wii console? Have you called NoA?
DefectiveReject
Banned
its not just me you crazy fool have you read any of the above posts? and why would i ring NoA from the UK? also if one NES or SNES game Works fine on my set up, and another doesn't, how is that my fault again?EphemeralDream said:
and the annoying.com thing is this ebon automatic thing opera Wii does!
Just downloaded Super Mario World and Zelda 2 The advantures of Link. Both games are awesome. The music in Vanilla Dome (world 3) of SMW is awesome. Played Zelda a bit too but its much harder than i remember, still holds up even today. I actually forgot that Zelda 2 was more an RPG than a Zelda game, random enemies and leveling up and stuff. This will keep me until Excite Truck
EphemeralDream
Member
DefectiveReject said:
I believe this is the post you're referring to? Wouldn't that basically mean that your TV is part of the problem? That is a stinker but HDTVs are known for having difficulty in displaying lower resolutions. Those two games that give you a problem probably ran at a very low resolution. And give me a break about the NoA thing, I don't know where you live.Dimmuxx said: