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Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
- Thread starter Kobun Heat
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Christopher
Member
soul creator said:
Oh yeah it has the logo on it, I should have made that a bit clearer. Thanks a lot man.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Good news - from what I read elsewhere, it sounds like there was a last-minute hitch that meant those two just missed launch day. Hopefully next Monday will see the beginning of the weekly updates that have been discussed.
Keeping my fingers crossed that the later release date for the system in the UK means we'll have more available on day one...
Keeping my fingers crossed that the later release date for the system in the UK means we'll have more available on day one...
soul creator
Member
now TG-16 games I can get behind...lot of people including myself missed out on some of the greats, so it's good to see them have some new life.
Great Rumbler
Member
I'm trying to download Super Mario 64 off the VC, but it seems that it may stopped downloading. Will anything happen if I shut off the Wii and will I be able to start the download again some other time?
jetpacks was yes
Member
Great Rumbler said:
Your wii will explode.
Sup Johnny.
Great Rumbler
Member
jetpacks was yes said:
I want a real answer here!! Stalled VC download is preventing me from playing Twilight Princess.
jetpacks was yes
Member
I'm sure it'll be fine.
Great Rumbler
Member
Yeah, I really doubt that it'll damage my system, but that's not what I'm trying to figure. What I want to know is if I'll have to pay again to download it later or if they have some kind of record of my download that lets me get again for free.
jetpacks was yes
Member
I can't imagine Nintendo would be so stupid that you wouldn't be able to re-download it if your download failed.
Great Rumbler
Member
Alright, I'm going to shut my system off. But if you're wrong, then you owe me $10!!
jetpacks was yes
Member
Haha, yeah right. But it shouldn't be a problem. If it is, contact Nintendo.
Great Rumbler
Member
I shut the system off and when I turned it back on, a tile for Super Mario 64 was on the main screen. I selected it and the game works just fine.
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*shrugs*
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*shrugs*
jetpacks was yes
Member
See, all is well.
I hope some third party (hori, perhaps) releases a standalone 'classic controller' that doesn't need the wiimote at all. It sounds like you could effectively snip off the wiimote functionality and make a wireless classic controller pretty easily.Bandicoot said:
It's great to see a five player bomberman on the Wii already!
I hope they consider doing hi-ten bomberman, or Saturn bomberman, or a new custom version similar to those.... with eight players!
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Hmm, I've tried a few times unsuccessfully to connect to the shop today, though other Internet function has worked. I hope two TG16 games and the launch systems aren't enough to bog this service down.
Great. I wondered about this once I read Bomberman '93 was 5-player.q*bert said:
It's like 1996 in 480p.Dr. Jade said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So I finally got my VC games copied to an SD card. Actually, the size is even smaller than my second estimate. The directory names given to games on the SD card aren't exactly specific, but I can make some educated guesses.
NAAE: Super Mario 64 is 11.1 MB
FAFE: Mario Bros. is 2.31 MB
PAAE: Bonk's Adventure or Bomberman '93 is 3.09 MB
PABE: Whichever the above isn't is 3.54 MB
I guess the Wii must come with more of that 512 MB already in use than I imagined. If SM64's 90 blocks are 11.1 MB, it seems 1 block is 128 kilobytes. With a fresh Wii there was somewhere around 2200 blocks free, which would be about 275 megabytes.
NAAE: Super Mario 64 is 11.1 MB
FAFE: Mario Bros. is 2.31 MB
PAAE: Bonk's Adventure or Bomberman '93 is 3.09 MB
PABE: Whichever the above isn't is 3.54 MB
I guess the Wii must come with more of that 512 MB already in use than I imagined. If SM64's 90 blocks are 11.1 MB, it seems 1 block is 128 kilobytes. With a fresh Wii there was somewhere around 2200 blocks free, which would be about 275 megabytes.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Yeah man, cartridge games had all sorts of unique and freaky ways of running, plus there are games for non-nintendo systems, so you gotta have an emu for each individual game. And those manuals probably do take up a decent chunk of space.
I'm not worried, got a nice 2GB SD card for cheap.
I'm not worried, got a nice 2GB SD card for cheap.
Water Turkey
Member
Are there online high scores and can you compete against people on internet in 2 players games? If not think they will be?
Water Turkey said:
Not right now. Though I believe it can be supported, somehow. I think some Midway Collections had a few games with Xbox Live ranking systems built in, even though they were emulated. Depends on how the emulator works.
As for including the emulators, sure, SNES and Megadrive games usually have no glitches, but things like the N64 emulator would be ona game-by-game basis, with lots of tweaking to make sure everything goes right for that game. Much like Xbox emulation on the 360, really.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
They could do it as easily as through some new channel. As long as it's in the current save / save state of a game, a channel could be made to read the correct bits of memory to get the high score, and send it to someplace online.Rlan said:
I'm betting it has more to do with making things as easy as possible for the end user who isn't as into this stuff as us. One download, one backup to an SD card, one channel that works. Anything 3 N64 emulator variants included with three different games could do, could be done with 1 N64 emulator with a few different options auto-switched.Rlan said:
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Not to nitpick but I noticed a few flaws in the emulation or rather a few flaws became visible after the increase in resolution. The most common issue are the visible seams in some of the stages geometry. The Thwomp stage (one of the first accessible ones) is the one where this is most apparent. Another bug is in first water stage; the little eel doesn't seem to want to leave the ship for the first star. I actually swam around for a second and turned to look at it again and the eel simply vanished. In the very same stage as I was swimming down to the bottom I was magically warped next to the sunken ship for some reason and I was no where near it.Dr. Jade said:
TekunoRobby
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That's my dilemma, I'm about to download the game too just because I want to grab something new. Its ok I'll stand strong, tomorrow is a new day.ethelred said:
AtomicShroom
Member
TekunoRobby said:
You didn't play much Mario 64 on the original N64, did you? I assure you that this bug was present in the original.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
AtomicShroom said:
And it isn't even a bug -- it's a warp point.
PS: Mario64 is absolute hotness in 480p. N64 games would have looked SO much better if they had been rendered at 640 X 480. Definately worth 10$ USD.
AndoCalrissian
Member
Didn't the RAM Pak enable this feature in some games? I remember there being a bit of a big deal around that for a bit.Dragona Akehi said:
Regardless, I can't wait to see more N64 games like Star Fox 64, Wave Race, and 1080 Snowboarding.
AndoCalrissian
Member
Indeed. I would imagine Paper Mario will come eventually, but who published Ogre Battle 64? Never played much of it, but I'd snap that baby up for $10.ethelred said:
TekunoRobby
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AtomicShroom said:
Warp Point? I was in the middle of the mini-trench swimming downwards and when I was "warped" half of my body was inside the ship's geometry but quickly popped out. Granted I haven't played the game in a little over 8 years now but you people are quick to jump down someone's throat. :lolDragona Akehi said:
EDIT: There wasn't any fan fare with the warp either, screen just flashed over to the ship and there I was. I was a bit happy too, I wasn't paying attention to my health meter and I needed some coins.