:lol :lol :lolbirdman said:I'll be throwing my vote to Obama this Tuesday in Virginia. I have a fever, and the only perscription is more Obama!
RubxQub said:More wins here would be phenomenally awesome.
Expect DC, and MD blowouts. She's focused in Virgina because it has the most delegates of the three, and wants to stop him from gaining too much ground. If she gets within a single digit loss, it'll be considered a success I imagine. I still think he can get a double digit possibly 20+ bomb there.Clinton badly needs Virginia victory
By: Kenneth P. Vogel and Jonathan Martin and Lisa Lerer
Feb 11, 2008 06:19 AM EST
Clinton whose campaign is reeling after a high-level staff shakeup and weekend loses to Obama in Maine, Washington State, Nebraska and Louisiana has all-but-conceded defeat in Maryland and the District.
She has campaigned hard in Virginia, where her campaign has a strategy to keep things competitive, but its already looking ahead to March 4 contests in Ohio and Texas as a firewall of sorts.
Most likely so... I just don't want to get too confident. It's very possible that Obama could take a delegate lead after Tuesday (with supes included), and I'm afraid of what that may due to voters.avaya said:Book it. It's done. No way she's winning Tuesday.
Well, Texas may have more delegates, and if she wins it, as long as Obama can close the gap, say less than 10% loss, he'll still get a ton of delegates there.PhoenixDark said:MA and DC have nice sized African American populations which always favors Obama; often he essentially splits the white vote with Hillary, takes 80% of the black vote, and=Obama blowout. I don't expect any surprises there
Virginia seems like Obama Land, and after watching Bill's 4 days in Maine result in a 19 point blowout I'm not confident Hillary's constant campaigning there will matter much. Might be a 10 point loss at best for her. But if she wins it'll be a HUGE upset
Either way March 4 has enough delegates to erase Obama's leads, but as I said earlier I've lost confidence in her ability to win Ohio. Texas seems like it's in the bag, although we haven't seen any poll numbers recently..
Rur0ni said:Well, Texas may have more delegates, and if she wins it, as long as Obama can close the gap, say less than 10% loss, he'll still get a ton of delegates there.
Only polls available are in the OP. Polling for Texas/Ohio isn't here yet. Though I strongly imagine that after next Tuesday, the Wisconsin/Hawaii contests, SurveyUSA and the rest will be polling Texas/Ohio.Loudninja said:Any polls ?
I have to agree here. He just needs to win one of them. If he doesn't, she'll be running around confidently still. I don't care if it's a 51/49 split, if she wins it, she's gonna have a confident stroll about herself.Cheebs said:He needs to win either Ohio or Texas, not cause of the delegates but to keep his perception that he is the front runner. A psychological victory.
Rur0ni said:One thing that was mentioned in the earlier thread...
This is Clinton's first and last chance as president. She's been plotting this for a while now. A youngster comes in and is sweeping her feet from under her. The question, will she take it all the way to the end? Do some sort of voodoo at the convention that we don't understand?
RubxQub said:Most likely so... I just don't want to get too confident. It's very possible that Obama could take a delegate lead after Tuesday (with supes included), and I'm afraid of what that may due to voters.
Will they now magically see Hillary as suffering and start supporting her more?
Just presents a unique scenario that the Obama group hasn't seen just yet. We need Obama peoples to not diminish their support in order to be successful in Texas/Ohio.
Just don't want to see this all get flushed because people get too comfortable.
Grass roots!BrandNew said:I'm hardcore trying to do my part for the Ohio primaries. I've gathered a bit of people from school to march to the election center to vote for Obama. Trying to spread the good word.
quadriplegicjon said:why is it her last chance?
El Paso Times endorses Obama.avaya said:You needn't worry. There'll be bipartisan support for Obama in the Texas Primary from Republicans voting for him to block Hillary or protest McCain. This will cancel out her Hispanic firewall there.
Well, assuming the Obama presidency goes well, we're looking at 8 years till she can run again. Will the people forget everything that's happened and say, "now its your turn"? Or will someone else come up in 8 years, stealing the glory?quadriplegicjon said:why is it her last chance?
thekad said:Eh PD, I really don't think either Gore or Pelosi are going to endorse anyone. Especially Pelosi.
http://dyn.politico.com/playbook/In the N.Y. Times, William Kristol speculates naughtily on the possibility of Vice President Gore and Speaker Pelosi anointing Obama: "[T]here are, as a final resort, two super-superdelegates (so to speak) who would have the clout to help Democrats achieve closure: Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi. If they stepped forward at the right time, they would earn the gratitude of their party. And they might also enjoy contemplating a derivative effect of their good deed the fall of the house of Clinton."
Rur0ni said:Only polls available are in the OP. Polling for Texas/Ohio isn't here yet. Though I strongly imagine that after next Tuesday, the Wisconsin/Hawaii contests, SurveyUSA and the rest will be polling Texas/Ohio.
I have to agree here. He just needs to win one of them. If he doesn't, she'll be running around confidently still. I don't care if it's a 51/49 split, if she wins it, she's gonna have a confident stroll about herself.
thekad said:Eh PD, I really don't think either Gore or Pelosi are going to endorse anyone. Especially Pelosi.
Patrickula said:I'm looking forward to voting in VA tomorrow, can't wait! Too bad Mark Warner won't endorse, he's hugely popular. I assume he wants to play it safe in case he needs the support of either side in the future.
Good point. His image and politics are quite a bit further to the right than either candidate and it serves him very well in VA.birdman said:Warner is trying to keep to hs moderate stance. If he endorses Obama then when he runs for the state Senate seat this year the Republicans will have less of a reason to cross party lines.
Edwards/Richardson endorsement is beginning to lose it's weight imo. Edwards more so. After Texas, Richardson doesn't even matter.grandjedi6 said:-Pelosi will not endorse
-Dean will not endorse
-Gore is unlikely to endorse until he can get away with it. He doesn't want to tarnish his neutral image unless the nominee is guarenteed
-Edwards and Richardson are going to endorse soon or hide in an underground bunker
Snap. Seems voters are rejecting McCain :lolMomentarily, SurveyUSA clients WTVR-TV Richmond, WJLA-TV Washington DC and WDBJ-TV Roanoke will post results of SurveyUSAs final tracking poll in the Virginia Republican Primary. In interviews conducted over the weekend, there was movement in Virginia to Mike Huckabee.
1. Among Conservative voters, John McCain had led by 21, now trails by 5.
2. Among Pro-Life voters, McCain had led by 20 points, now trails by 6.
3. Among voters in Southeast VA, McCain had led by 28, now trails by 12.
4. Among voters focused on Immigration, McCain had led by 16, now trails by 17.
5. Among voters who attend religious services regularly, McCain had led by 24, now trails by 2.
(And in the precious visual department: Monday brings the unveiling of "a new figure of Sen. Barack Obama seated in a replica of the Oval Office with Bill and Hillary Clinton standing by" at Madame Tussauds wax museum in Washington, per the AP's daybook.)
Cheebs said:Warner has his eye on the white house still, he is playing it safe.
JaY P. said:MSNBC just said that VA is winner take all. If that's the case, Obama needs to win this to have a clear, but still small, lead. Can anyone verify this?
Rur0ni said:Snap. Seems voters are rejecting McCain :lol
grandjedi6 said:-Pelosi will not endorse
-Dean will not endorse
-Gore is unlikely to endorse until he can get away with it. He doesn't want to tarnish his neutral image unless the nominee is guarenteed
-Edwards and Richardson are going to endorse soon or hide in an underground bunker
based on that VA poll, they more likely would vote Huckabee than switch parties.gcubed said:which is actually huge for Texas. Texas is an open primary correct? Meaning anyone can vote for anyone. There has been a lot of talk about republicans being disenfranchised by McCain and some political pundits are expecting a lot of republicans to vote for Obama.
Cheebs said:based on that VA poll, they more likely would vote Huckabee than switch parties.
gcubed said:which is actually huge for Texas. Texas is an open primary correct? Meaning anyone can vote for anyone. There has been a lot of talk about republicans being disenfranchised by McCain and some political pundits are expecting a lot of republicans to vote for Obama.
Eric WK said:Huh?
I know what you're trying to say, but that's not the right term.