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Official PS3 Upscaling Thread (PS1, PS2, DVD)
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FFXII doesn't support proper widescreen anyway, it just chops the top and bottom off the picture and stretches that fullscreen. You should be running it in 4:3. (same applies to the original God of War, and possibly the sequel as well)Pachinko said:
The upscaling has two options - normal or fullscreen. It sounds like most people probably want the latter.
TerryLee81
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Wow, I'm impressed.
Does this only work with a PS3 including EE or does it work with a PAL PS3 too?
Does this only work with a PS3 including EE or does it work with a PAL PS3 too?
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Proc said:
That happened to me just now with GoWII. Go into Game Settings in your PS3 menu and change the Upscale option to "Full Screen."
Like I thought. Using a CRT (aka, non-fixed pixel display) shows no difference between upscale/non-upscale. The big thing that makes games (especially PS1 titles) look much better is the smoothing. Well and the fact that it doesn't have to de-interlace to 480p since I use 1080i so you don't get interlace problems.
1st is 480p on a CRT
2nd is 1080i on a CRT
1st is 480p on a CRT
2nd is 1080i on a CRT
brandonh83
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Thanks Pachinko 
Do most TVs allow you to change the aspect ratio while in HD modes? I didn't think they do.. so that means widescreen games are going to have black bars on the side with an image that is meant to be horizontally stretched in a 4:3 windowbox.
EDIT: oh wait, NM there's a fullscreen mode for the scaler.
EDIT: oh wait, NM there's a fullscreen mode for the scaler.
BobTheFork
Member
Wow some of these look really nice....OMG I think this means i might finally be able to play driver 2 without my eyes burning. oh yeah.
Proc said:
Yes this was a pet peeve of mine aswell..
But it seems that when your using a fixed pixel display(LCD in our case) NO PS2 game is going to completely fill the screen. you will always have black bars whether or not you use 1080i or 720P or 480P with a widescreen option from the game.
I just choose "fullscreen" regardless if the game supports 16x9 or not...I seriously do not want to have to keep choosing resolution setiings in the game menu on the XMB everytime i play a game. its friggin annoying...
Plus doesnt it just totally defeat the purpose of upscaling in the 1st place...
Bebpo said:I tried Valkyrie Profile 2 since it's the most jaggy game in exsitence.
At 1080i w/smoothing on...it's still a jaggy mess
lol yeah this was the 1st game i tried and i bitched about it...
Silent hill 2 looks pretty damn nice though...So does VF4 Evo
Can somebody try Valkyrie Profile PS1 and post some pics...
I Also tried FF9 and that did not look that great.
480p, no smoothing
1080i & smoothing
The character model is so much smoother...
By the way, I don't have any PS2 games to mess around with since they are all upstairs and I'd rather not disturb the peace, but I did find a demo if anyone would like to make a request. It has: Sly 3, Ratchet: Deadlocked, Jak X, MK: Shaolin Monks, Pac-Man World 3, Castlevania: CoD, and Confilct Global Terror.
1080i & smoothing
The character model is so much smoother...
By the way, I don't have any PS2 games to mess around with since they are all upstairs and I'd rather not disturb the peace, but I did find a demo if anyone would like to make a request. It has: Sly 3, Ratchet: Deadlocked, Jak X, MK: Shaolin Monks, Pac-Man World 3, Castlevania: CoD, and Confilct Global Terror.
Alright, my last two games and I'm calling it a night.
Kingdom Hearts II:
Silent Hill 3 (HOT!):
(by popular demand)
So in short, the scaling has made games smoother, but not as sharp as I had hoped. I'd been spoiled by playing FFXI on PC after all. Perhaps I'm just tired, or it's a mixed bag. SoTC and SH3 are definetely better looking.
Kingdom Hearts II:
Silent Hill 3 (HOT!):
So in short, the scaling has made games smoother, but not as sharp as I had hoped. I'd been spoiled by playing FFXI on PC after all. Perhaps I'm just tired, or it's a mixed bag. SoTC and SH3 are definetely better looking.
It's only a demo that I'm working with, so I couldn't exactly pick a level with some better geometry - if you view the pictures in a slideshow, the clothes get noticeably cleaned up a bit, but it looks MUCH better in motion than it does in still comparisons. Take note again that I'm working with 1080i as well.tribal24 said:
Zombie James
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Looks like we have ourselves an upgrade :lol
Greg said:It's only a demo that I'm working with, so I couldn't exactly pick a level with some better geometry - if you view the pictures in a slideshow, the clothes get noticeably cleaned up a bit, but it looks MUCH better in motion than it does in still comparisons. Take note again that I'm working with 1080i as well.
not bad that looks great
Mr. Spinnington
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Oooh, do Symphony of the Night!
And Odin Sphere, too.
And Odin Sphere, too.
Giant Robot
Member
My Sega Virtua Stick High Grade does NOT work with PS2 games. Before it WAS WORKING.
Now my Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 joystick works with PS2 games. Before it WAS NOT WORKING.
the roles have swtiched between the VSHG and the HRAP3 :lol
also my tv (Pioneer 5070) is now displaying 1080p. The tv's native resolution is 720p, but can accept a 1080p @24hz signal. Theoretically it's downscaling to the panels native resolution...methinks
Now my Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 joystick works with PS2 games. Before it WAS NOT WORKING.
the roles have swtiched between the VSHG and the HRAP3 :lol
also my tv (Pioneer 5070) is now displaying 1080p. The tv's native resolution is 720p, but can accept a 1080p @24hz signal. Theoretically it's downscaling to the panels native resolution...methinks
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I still say that Silent Hill 3 was the nicest looking PS2 game. Great character models and some jaw-dropping texture work.
Goldrusher
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ICO, GT4 and San Andreas pics please. Thank you.
Zombie James
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Reilly said:
Yea, someone try MGS.
Mr. Spinnington
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Hey those are both good ideas! I'd like to see that, too!Mr. Spinnington said:
revolverjgw
Member
What about Metal Gear Solid 3?
akachan ningen
Member
Playing FFXII with smoothing and flicker filter on makes it too blurry for my taste. I'll try it without smoothing next time, because flicker filter is a must have on my TV.
I tried Odin Sphere too, with smoothing. It looked great. It's too bad it doesn't use 16:9 though. I can't play it in forced widescreen with the characters looking all squashed. That's nasty.
So widescreen games:
FFXII
RE4
SOTC
GTA san andreas
GOW 2
anything else?
I tried Odin Sphere too, with smoothing. It looked great. It's too bad it doesn't use 16:9 though. I can't play it in forced widescreen with the characters looking all squashed. That's nasty.
So widescreen games:
FFXII
RE4
SOTC
GTA san andreas
GOW 2
anything else?
fubarduck said:
huh, I recently played Gitaroo Man and DMC3 through HDMI on my PS3... Now I know I wasn't crazy when thinking Dante could jump sooner when I press x... still had fun with both games and didn't really think about this until I saw your post. Now that I know about this it's goig to be annoying thinking about it when playing PS2 games on PS3. I would like to UN-READ THAT.
inpHilltr8r
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GoWI game was cropped, some movies were re-framed. GoWII was entirely re-framed for widescreen, except for some movies in the European release.andrewfee said:
Chrono said:huh, I recently played Gitaroo Man and DMC3 through HDMI on my PS3... Now I know I wasn't crazy when thinking Dante could jump sooner when I press x... still had fun with both games and didn't really think about this until I saw your post. Now that I know about this it's goig to be annoying thinking about it when playing PS2 games on PS3. I would like to UN-READ THAT.
Oh shit, it buffers two frames? Is that fields (1/59.97) or frames (1/29.97)?
Beer Monkey
Member
Sho Nuff said:
I don't have Guitar Hero 2 for PS2 any more, but if I did, it would be very interesting to use it to test the lag differences on the PS3 between 480i/480p/upscaling/no-upscaling/smoothing/no-smoothing.
Just because the it has gameplay issues on the PS3 doesn't mean that the lag test can't be done...
Can anybody do this?
