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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima
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Neuromancer
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Yeah the whole thing is so incredibly odd, why would they shoot it like that if it was just a dude sitting there? And why would he make that face at the end?Übermatik;50979726 said:
I never said I left TeamCG.Welcome!
He looks real, but his movements in certain shots still look too strange for me (hence why I feel some of it is CG, and some of it isn't).
If I'm wrong I don't really care too much, because I maintain what we've seen is possible, but I've never once thought all of it was CG.
Graphics Horse
Member
teamghost option shows up for me, can't you see it?
Reposting my thoughts from another thread:
I'm not convinced the Mogren interview was CG, but anyone saying that CG that realistic can't be done is wrong. The Avengers, for the first time ever, had me completely fooled in certain areas. That scene when the hulk is chasing ScarJo? I thought it was just her running in front of a green screen. Turns out, that whole scene, including her, is %100 CG. ZERO uncanney valley, she just looks real. Now, The Avengers had a huge budget, but this interview was such a small project that I believe it could have been %100 pre-rendered at a reasonable cost for Kojima's company or w/e.
I'm not convinced the Mogren interview was CG, but anyone saying that CG that realistic can't be done is wrong. The Avengers, for the first time ever, had me completely fooled in certain areas. That scene when the hulk is chasing ScarJo? I thought it was just her running in front of a green screen. Turns out, that whole scene, including her, is %100 CG. ZERO uncanney valley, she just looks real. Now, The Avengers had a huge budget, but this interview was such a small project that I believe it could have been %100 pre-rendered at a reasonable cost for Kojima's company or w/e.
Due to legal reasons you are now a part of TeamCG. Don't resist or we will kill you.
GlamFM
Banned
I never said I left TeamCG.
He looks real, but his movements in certain shots still look too strange for me.
If I'm wrong I don't really care too much, because I maintain what we've seen is possible, but I've never once thought all of it was CG.
I guess Kojima directed this piece of art - which would explain why everything seems so strange.
Reminds me of every cutscene in every Kojima game.
I don't think Chinner has GAF Gold.
Neuromancer
Member
A vote for #TeamCG is a vote for blame space.
Angelus Errare
Banned
A mod needs to start working on avatar designs for the losers.
I really hope they're not planning on using these lists for nefarious purposes...
Angelus Errare
Banned
I suggested way early in this thread that we have a vote and those who got it wrong get avatars showing how disconnected they are.
Now we have the voting part per my suggestion...go all the way with it and include the shame part.
It's needed, and I want to laugh.
Devilgunman
Member
nah. It's just pre-recorded video.
It is sad, I expected more. Oh well.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
its CG. i want to believe
Hideo Kojima after the press conference: "But before I go, one last thing."
- The light dims, behind him a video starts to play-
There is no such thing in the world as absolute reality. Most of what they call real is actual fiction.
What you think you see is only as real as your brain tells you it is.
*piano chord*
uuaschbaer
Banned
In re that Eulerian video magnification business: I've played around with it for a while and I think that the most likely explanation for the red pulse that I pointed out is not that Joakim and Geoff are real but that it's an artefact created by the way the software works in combination with the fact that Joakim is moving and that there is a red background in the Geoff shot after him. Therefore I think that the gif I posted earlier can't serve as evidence and should be ignored (which it mostly is anyway . I haven't been able to make it work with other segments of the interview yet, there is too much movement. Maybe it's possible to edit the video so that the faces remain still but that seems like a lot of work.
The only things now keeping me on the side of #TeamReal is Ockham and deep shame.
. I haven't been able to make it work with other segments of the interview yet, there is too much movement. Maybe it's possible to edit the video so that the faces remain still but that seems like a lot of work.The only things now keeping me on the side of #TeamReal is Ockham and deep shame.
mountainduwe
Neo Member
Hideo Kojima after the press conference: "But before I go, one last thing."
- The light dims, behind him a video starts to play-
There is no such thing in the world as absolute reality. Most of what they call real is actual fiction.
What you think you see is only as real as your brain tells you it is.
*piano chord*
Pantom
Snake: What you think you see is only as real as your brain tells you it is,
damn it Raiden, did I teach you nothing???
TheJollyCorner
Member
Bragging glory or crow-eating shame? I love this!
Everyone that votes should own their choice!
Everyone that votes should own their choice!
DragonSworne
Banned
I feel bad for teamCG
Supermanisdead
Member
I'm here for the impending shame of Team Real
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."
Truly, ours is a heavy burden. I ache to see the world as you do, through innocent eyes, never questioning, knowing only happiness -which is shattered by truth. There is no God, life is only suffering. All those that you love will someday die. Joakim is CG.
Icelandic_Jazz
Member
I'll try messing around with this later to see if I can get a better result, but the movement might be too much to pick up on the subtleties of someone's pulse.In re that Eulerian video magnification business: I've played around with it for a while and I think that the most likely explanation for the red pulse that I pointed out is not that Joakim and Geoff are real but that it's an artefact created by the way the software works in combination with the fact that Joakim is moving and that there is a red background in the Geoff shot after him. Therefore I think that the gif I posted earlier can't serve as evidence and should be ignored (which it mostly is anyway
The only things now keeping me on the side of #TeamReal is Ockham and deep shame.
Detective GAF is fun.
D
Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
Alright, who was the coward from Team CG that passed to Team Real. You have no shame! NO SHAME!
I thought we were more, I thought that reason would find a way through. But thinking this is real? You have crossed the line, people.
I thought we were more, I thought that reason would find a way through. But thinking this is real? You have crossed the line, people.
I don't know who I am talking to
Dogfacedgod
Member
My gut is telling me he's real....but I want to believe!
mountainduwe
Neo Member
No matter which team ends up victorious, this is the best thread I've seen on the internet in a while. Thanks, GAF.
Dogfacedgod
Member
This is nuts. You guys, it's not the shading that makes something look like CG. It's the nearly imperceptible movements of a live body that we haven't learned how to animate yet. A still can look real. But animation hasn't come close to making somebody move like this. If the Fox Engine can make a photo, great. But if it can make the corners of a mouth twitch and pull like this, then we're all fucked immediately.
Neffarias_Bredd
Member
No way he's CG. That said, I hope I end up in a crow eating thread sometime in the future for this post