If anything, I'd see that as more proof. Not only did other countries not have voice commands, but they didn't have marketplace or anything else "localized" (possibly?)
ah well, sucks :\
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Only 5 countries will have full Xbone voice commands at launch [Update in OP]
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If anything, I'd see that as more proof. Not only did other countries not have voice commands, but they didn't have marketplace or anything else "localized" (possibly?)
ah well, sucks :\
3rdamention
Member
Why do you ask? You could probably assume I am not an engineer, thus instead of just jumping on the first few lines of my post, read the end "that doesn't make sense to me" is what I said.
It doesn't make sense to me, a 6th Grade School Teacher. I didn't necessarily think they were going to flip a switch.
But if you look at Microsofts own PR Mouthpiece Arthur Gies, he was saying it was for localization for non english dialects. Now, they do not have it ready, just like they do not have it ready in the other countries they delayed, but they are going to launch anyways. My point was, why delay in some countries due to localization being incomplete, yet launch in other countries where the localization is not complete? That doesn't make sense to me, a little ol 6th Grade School Teacher, not an engineer. Thank you!!
TheJollyCorner
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Garrett 2U
Member
Everyone of these voice recognition apps I've tried struggles with UK accents, if you don't speak the Queens English, you're screwed. As if pressing a button wasn't quick enough already, if you then have to repeat phrases multiple times in an attempt to negate you're accent, these things becoming an even bigger waste of time.
In years to come we'll look back at this tech and think, WTF were they thinking, technology for technologies sake.
In years to come we'll look back at this tech and think, WTF were they thinking, technology for technologies sake.
You obviously missed the joke lol. that was a reference to the Major Nelson and Angry Joe situation.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662509
Reading this interview again, voice controls are clearly the main thing they were putting emphasis on as the reason for the delay.
The other services Albert Penello mentions have a track record of being bare bones in the countries that Xbone was delayed.
Reading this interview again, voice controls are clearly the main thing they were putting emphasis on as the reason for the delay.
The other services Albert Penello mentions have a track record of being bare bones in the countries that Xbone was delayed.
It is obvious that they were not ready for 2013 launch AT ALL, but they were forced into it.
3rdamention
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coughlanio
Member
Because software globalization is a monumental task?
MDSLKTR
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PopcornMegaphone
Banned
It's pretty obvious you've never held a white collar office job for a major corporation.
I mean, I think MS's communication has been lackluster, but you're a little over the top right now.
maplelord93
Banned
we should be getting an answer soon?
I think this is an interesting question. If we take a look at Sony they do it the other way, correct? First they deliver the PS4 where they will face the most direct competition, then they move to Europe which is mostly a big Sony territory and finally in Japan where Microsoft's presence is even lower, I believe.
Before this year E3 I was expecting Microsoft to make bigger efforts on Europe. With some things like adding a FIFA 14 to the Xbox One day One, they are getting there but still, many EU Countries without a Xbox One does not makes sense to me.
From a business standpoint I would like to understand why countries like Portugal were left out. Brazil will be having Xbox One on day one right? They speak portuguese, in fact, Microsoft does not even know the difference between the Portuguese spoken in Brazil and in Portugal, since they just "port" the brazilian accent to Portugal and they believe that this is correct, which is not, at all.
SwiftDeath
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So you're saying that a company the size and breadth of Microsoft who has had 2 previous console launches that touched the corners of the globe cannot localize 8 countries because in the next 3 months (or for the last 2 years mind you) they cannot (could not)
- Prop-up local Live
- Localize Apps
- Localize a marketplace
- Localize "other" services
Even though MS has operated in these countries before, have had live marketplaces in these countries, have had Apps on said marketplaces for years, and had "other" services in these countries for years?
That seems less likely than yield issues to me personally
Edit: Furthermore why if MS is always considered the better software company over Sony, better UI development etc. can Sony a company not known for software development launch in 32 countries?
If it is actually localization problems as stated all these screams that the X1 was not ready to be released this year and is still being rushed together
Twin Tails
Member
Will it support Cboat Talk, i assume he talks that was in real life.
exbux un
exbux un
"I'm gonna go and ask engineers" is the new "I'm gonna go and round up answers now".
Albert, you really kind of have balls to face Neogaf publicly, especially with the amount of bad rep your company's actions and colleagues' statement have caused, but it becomes more and more apparent that you're not exactly helping the case.
Eh I don't get why everyone's blaming MS. They really have no choice but to launch right now 5 countries or 0 countries. If they wait until they get voice recognition working for 90% of the world, they'll be in the same position as the PS3 was launching a whole year later. That would mean that the Xbox One would likely have no chance of being the console with the highest user base in the west.
Add to that the Xbox does not have the benefit of selling anywhere else in the world, so they wouldn't be able to catch up in userbase 8 years later down the road.
Add to that the Xbox does not have the benefit of selling anywhere else in the world, so they wouldn't be able to catch up in userbase 8 years later down the road.
I've held a couple of white collar office jobs for major corporations, but what's that really got to do with it? How is hawk2025 overreacting here? Seems perfectly rational to express the concerns he did when everyone at MS seems prone to conveying inaccurate or uncertain info right now.
intheinbetween
Member
FUUU- no Spain
Yes, it seems extremely far fetched to me. I'm not convinced it's yield issues, but something is clearly going disastrously wrong.
Quadraphonic
Member
What's more amazing is all the flat out flies about localization and people are saying "Oh well, I still have it pre-ordered."
They're already lying about localization. (At the VERY least deceived you into thinking your language would be supported at launch) You still want to support them and think there won't be any other lies down the road?
They're already lying about localization. (At the VERY least deceived you into thinking your language would be supported at launch) You still want to support them and think there won't be any other lies down the road?
"are you an engineer?"
He's the self-proclaimed lead on product planning for Xbone yet he needs to ask the *engineers* for something simple like this? That was already put on their homesite? Engineers don't approve what goes on their PR site.
SwiftDeath
Member
Seriously if Sony can do it for 32 countries I don't get how localization could be holding 8 countries back
I don't think it's necessarily gone disastrously wrong but I do think MS is simply prioritizing their stock to more important markets
As another member on here mentioned if MS had simply announced 13 markets in the first place we wouldn't be so intrigued by this
But the 5 countries supported thing is a bit weird
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I really appreciate how you're really upfront about doing your job Albert and are completely ok with being wrong about something at a given time, but for your sake as well, I really hope MS can straighten their message out. You shouldn't have to be in a position where you need to triple check with engineers.
tfur
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I never said screw everyone else. Everyone without this should be rightfully upset, but many people will make a big deal out of it even though it has no effect on them. People keep making such a big deal out of the Xbox not launching in all territories...seriously? An electronic device didn't launch globally day 1. What's new? They'll get it when they get it. If they're upset...wait or buy an alternative. If its coming to YOUR territory then I see no reason to be concerned at all...unless console warzzzz
If you're paying an extra 100 Euros or whatever currency for Kinect with only the vague promises of Microsoft saying they hope to get it working in your area at some point, why wouldn't you be concerned? Especially if some games require Kinect.
Theonik
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I think you answered your own question.
NullPointer
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Xbox, Go home.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
or birmingham :/
It's the lies we're concerned about. If MS was up front instead of constant spin, maybe people wouldn't be so pissed and untrusting.
And I'm still skeptical about their "certain languages are tied to certain countries" option walk through. Not everyone who speaks certain languages lives in certain countries. It should just be "language and locale" with no filtering, not "language then we filter down to locales we think you should live in based on your language".
SwiftDeath
Member
I'm sorry Dave
The set locale on your Xbox One does not allow me to operate
Please let me know when your locale is set to a more important country
No.
MS initially said they'd launch in 21 countries. Within a month that number dropped by a THIRD. Now, on top of that, the fine print for TWO THIRDS of the remaining countries is that Kinect won't function as intended initially, and for who knows how long, even though it's included in the box and no one has the option to not pay for it.
The problem is that MS continues to have trouble seemingly committing to any concrete plan with the XBO. It tends to give everyone an uneasy feeling about how ready they are to launch anywhere, nvm globally.
ethomaz
Banned
I guess the high exec are not sharing the full history to the employees... it there are one of course.
PJV3
Member
SwiftDeath
Member
I think with the importers guide that cboat leaked
You could set it to US locale and everything would function like it would in a US setting but if you change it to UAE at a point in the future you might not get voice control
Not entirely clear though
RedAssedApe
Banned
as much as i love the customer interaction...this type of situation is why the stock response in PR is to not comment on rumors or speculation.
FeiRR
Banned
A serious question: are all X1 interface functions also mapped to the controller? Like, for example, snapping or app switching. Because if they aren't, people in other countries won't even be able to use their X1s. I think I read that game VCR is voice activated, there's no button (it was used as a feature). So if you're Spanish, for example, can you even record your games?
"The engineers" may not even exist.