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Only Zelda GameCube was playable at E3... Even if you played with the Wii controller.
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AdmiralViscen
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Kuroyume said:
Yea, he's the know-it-all.
32X. Sega CD. /discussion
You quoted my post, but didn't really reply to it as much as go off on some tangent justifying releasing Zelda on Wii from a financial standpoint, which I have no argument with. The point of my thread was that only Zelda GameCube was shown at the show, running with a Wii controller. Ergo since Nintendo is showing it as Zelda for the Wii, I assume the only difference between the two is the control scheme. Now what's your problem with that?Juice said:
Never been on that train, but on the other hand I think you took a bus transfer on the OMG TEDDMAN CAN'T TELL A E3 DEV KIT SWITCHEROO IF IT BIT HIM IN THE ASS line a bit up in this thead.Kobun Heat said:
It's just that a lot of folks on this forum and others had no idea that only the GameCube version was truly on display at E3, and in light of what I saw, I wanted to explore what exactly the differences between the rigged-up demo version and the final "Wii version" might be.SpoonyBard
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Those devkits must at least have more ram and a faster CPU, even if the GPU was same. Zelda looked better than anything on Gamecube, including Rebel Strike and Res. Evil 4.
JoshuaJSlone
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Maybe they can release an add-on for GameCube that through some trick of relativity, makes time go faster for it. Thus, an apparent increase in clockspeed to an external observer.ruby_onix said:
Most of the people were just there for the fucking tournament. I like how you label all of them "nutjobs" simply because they were present at Nintendo World. I was there, and I wouldn't have given a shit about the wiimote if it were just an addon. If you think a perephrial aimed towards diehard "nutjobs" would allow the Gamecube to survive when pitted against the PS3 and 360, then you're the nutjob here.Kuroyume said:
Long story short - You're wrong, douchebag.
Mr_Furious
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Sony didn't try to hide anything, imo. The average PS3 kiosk had a huge vertical glass tower displaying many dev kits in full view for everyone to see. It looked pretty intentional to me.VOOK said:
Nintendo said that all the games so far are only running on GC dev kits with a wiimote attachment, so I don't see why people are so amazed.
Third parties are getting final dev kits in June, and Nintendo probably has only had them for a short while, meaning they probably didn't have enough time upgrading any of the demos to their full potential.
Third parties are getting final dev kits in June, and Nintendo probably has only had them for a short while, meaning they probably didn't have enough time upgrading any of the demos to their full potential.
does this really surprise anyone.....i mean even though im drunk as hell right now the ammount of money i spent tonight = wii, nintendo will always get my hard earned dollars since that was my frist intro into gaming (nes) and while i was a sega fanboy you see were that went, shit i`d pay 200 to slap a unit on my cube to enjoy the controller....(oh btw yes i have a girl....shes passed out,, and i figured it would be nice to drunk type while i had the chance since a thread was already made in offopic about beng drunk)
TheKingsCrown
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F#A#Oo said:
In the words of AniHawk: Helmet/Visor/SUPER CELL BEATING GRAPHICS CARD
I find this quite hilarious. Nintendo had people playing on some sort of Dev Kit Gamecubes thinking they were playing their next-gen machines. I have a hard time believing Mario Galaxy was running off a GC dev kit though. That game was noticeably improved from all the other games on display.
tanasten
glad to heard people isn't stupid anymore
Everything was working under the Dev Kits, wich is completely normal. Developer are working with those dev kits, and until june there isn't gona be final dev kits or a final Wii version.
So, Nintendo fooled us?
No, those games we're running on the dev kits, wich are a powered version of GameCube: Remember that no final Specs has been released yet, and also, remember that ATI it's working on the graphics chip yet.
So, Nintendo fooled us?
No, those games we're running on the dev kits, wich are a powered version of GameCube: Remember that no final Specs has been released yet, and also, remember that ATI it's working on the graphics chip yet.
If the Wii hardware is just an small upgrade from the Gamecube, why Nintendo hasn't got final dev kits until recently, and 3rd parties are not getting them until June?
What's so special about the Wii hardware that Zelda had to run on Gamecubes w/ wiimotes?
I can understand Sony having some problems to get PS3 with CELL & RSX ready for E3, but not Nintendo...
Maybe it's not just an small upgrade...
What's so special about the Wii hardware that Zelda had to run on Gamecubes w/ wiimotes?
I can understand Sony having some problems to get PS3 with CELL & RSX ready for E3, but not Nintendo...
Maybe it's not just an small upgrade...
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
For the wii version of Zelda, can you play the game with the classic controller that nintendo have developed for wii or can you only use the wii remote?
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Can someone please answer my question!
Can the wii version of Zelda be played with standard controls using this controller:
Can the wii version of Zelda be played with standard controls using this controller:
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Stupid questio, assuming that all devs are using GC's until dev kits are out in June. Will they have enough time to get the games looking good for launch?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Hmm, I'll go on record saying I didn't know the games were running on GCs.
I never thought about it, really. Didn't really matter to me, I guess, but it never crossed my mind ::shrug::
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And what is this where the Konami guy says the Wii has some build in physics?
What exactly does that mean, is that new or unknown before?
I never thought about it, really. Didn't really matter to me, I guess, but it never crossed my mind ::shrug::
Edit:
And what is this where the Konami guy says the Wii has some build in physics?
What exactly does that mean, is that new or unknown before?
I wonder if having real hardware will benefit the problems some people where having with controller sensativity? Surely having eveything hardwired in instead of the devkit solution of sensor bar in the memory card slot would be superior even just from a bandwidth perspective?
meh who knows.
meh who knows.
JoshuaJSlone
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Honestly, this has been wondered many times. No clue, though.tirant said:
Then they've been lying to the developers, and having them create less-detailed content than necessary... which seems like a stupid thing to do.
An ATI PR dude said Hollywood is 'on par, or greater than' flipper, or something like that. it was in a video interview at E3.
So yeah, forget about any chance final hardware will be more powerful.
I mean even Retro is planning to only upgrade BLOOM LIGHTING and particle effects for the final build of MP3, according to IGN. They never said anything about adding HDR. And hell, nintendo just wouldn't LIE to them and let them create low-level art assets for such a long time.
I'd like to know why the hell did Nintendo even announce Hollywood/Broadway, in iwata's 2005 GDC speech. And now it's mentioned in the system specs. If nintendo doesn't care about specs, then just ignore that aspect. They're not releasing detailed specs, why release what their chips are called? Why the hell ARE they called hollywood/broadway? Do they do anything the gcn chips can't? It's just weird.
So yeah, forget about any chance final hardware will be more powerful.
I mean even Retro is planning to only upgrade BLOOM LIGHTING and particle effects for the final build of MP3, according to IGN. They never said anything about adding HDR. And hell, nintendo just wouldn't LIE to them and let them create low-level art assets for such a long time.
I'd like to know why the hell did Nintendo even announce Hollywood/Broadway, in iwata's 2005 GDC speech. And now it's mentioned in the system specs. If nintendo doesn't care about specs, then just ignore that aspect. They're not releasing detailed specs, why release what their chips are called? Why the hell ARE they called hollywood/broadway? Do they do anything the gcn chips can't? It's just weird.
I'm bumping this thread to show what I've found
http://perfect-zelda.net/video/NintendoConfNGCremote.wmv
On this little video, if you pause at 1:35, you'll clearly see 2 gamecube (or early wii dev kits, those who were same as the gamecube + wiimote) behing miyamoto
http://perfect-zelda.net/video/NintendoConfNGCremote.wmv
On this little video, if you pause at 1:35, you'll clearly see 2 gamecube (or early wii dev kits, those who were same as the gamecube + wiimote) behing miyamoto
Avutta1978
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weeks, i remember reggie saying june, weeks prior to e3 is not june.AniHawk said:
Avutta1978
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retro didn't say that, the said if you read matt's article again that the have implemented bloom ligthing already.Chrono said:
JoshuaJSlone
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Seems like some sites are reporting the devkit situation quite sensationalistically.
Nintendo faked Wii demonstration - claim
Nintendo faked Wii demonstration - claim
dysonEA
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People keep saying "the wire on the wiimote went somewhere else other than the Wii" .... When I was there, I was "told" that wire was just so people wouldnt run off with the controller (why would the wire be connected to the wii anyways? theres no ports for it) ... however, playing Wii tennis, there was no wire ... so ... think what you will?
interesting thread, but im not so sure I see what your trying to point out, as far as I knew, the next zelda was a GAMECUBE title, that was being released also in a Wii version that had some of the controller functionality. Not a completely new "Wii version" of the game, with better art and everything.
Also, I really dont see what the big deal is about games being run on gamecubes. Is it really hard to believe that nintendo simply overclocked the gamecubes with whatever was necessary to emulate the Wii specs? After all, this is an exhibition show displaying games, not systems. If I were nintendo, and I knew that adjusting a pre-existing system to suit the future generation was on the whole a more reliable way to show off the games being developed, I would absolutely choose to run everything off them rather than the in-development system that Im sure still has plenty of bugs.
Seems like a whole lot of unimaginative tabloid game theroies to me.
Also, I really dont see what the big deal is about games being run on gamecubes. Is it really hard to believe that nintendo simply overclocked the gamecubes with whatever was necessary to emulate the Wii specs? After all, this is an exhibition show displaying games, not systems. If I were nintendo, and I knew that adjusting a pre-existing system to suit the future generation was on the whole a more reliable way to show off the games being developed, I would absolutely choose to run everything off them rather than the in-development system that Im sure still has plenty of bugs.
Seems like a whole lot of unimaginative tabloid game theroies to me.
SpoonyBard
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Gee, I'm glad they used Gamecube casing for the devkit and not NES. I'd hate to see GAF reaction to that.