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|OT| French Presidential election - 2012 edition
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Sickboy007
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Delicious. I just won a bottle of wine.
ComputerMKII
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People partying hard before Sarkozy's campaign HQ.
People partying hard before Sarkozy's campaign HQ.
Hahah, AFP saying Hollande won btw
el retorno
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ComputerMKII
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Oh God that screen.
Tribes of Trusty
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After two weeks of political bullshit on my FB wall, I can finally taste the bitter tears...they are delicious.
Black Republican
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so when is he sworn in?
ComputerMKII
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The 17th of May.
I think Sarko has until the 16 may. or the 17th whichever.
Black Republican
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wow thats quick
ComputerMKII
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Place de la Bastille:
Hollande's HQ:
Hollande's HQ:
Ether_Snake
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Let's hope that this will lead to the election of center-left (or further left) parties across Europe and elsewhere. For the past decade we have had nothing but right-wingers getting elected across the Western world, regardless of their banner.
It's time people realize that the financial sector must be regulated, and that the middle class is the one to serve when elected.
It's time people realize that the financial sector must be regulated, and that the middle class is the one to serve when elected.
killer_clank
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Hollande wins.
Black Republican
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watching bbc news officially called
ComputerMKII
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Tribes of Trusty
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Classy
Hey, if the president himself can say that, why can't anyone ?
Geez, such a party pooper.
Tribes of Trusty
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It's not because he said it you have to stoop at his level...
J'adore faire le rabat-joie, surtout en politique
Well the good thing is as I live in a right-wing oriented town, tonight will be very peaceful.
I live in Barbès (a popular district of Paris, mainly populated by African and North African people): Hollande's victory was welcomed with shouts of joy and ecstatic screams down my windows.
I've been living here for nearly 10 years now, and this is the first reaction of this kind I've ever noticed regarding politics. This was even more joyful and loud than during the African Football Cup.
I've been living here for nearly 10 years now, and this is the first reaction of this kind I've ever noticed regarding politics. This was even more joyful and loud than during the African Football Cup.
Al-ibn Kermit
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What was exactly so bad about Sarkozy? I'm sorry for being completely uninformed before asking this.
Alx
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That's a good question actually.
I think most of the hate comes from his personality : he's a very unlikable person, arrogant and slightly megalomaniac, fond of himself and likes to show-off (he appeared on the front page of tabloids, wearing luxury watch and traveling on yachts, celebrated his first election in a luxury restaurant, had a presidential plane built for him, and of course he married an ex top-model). He can be agressive too, telling people to "fuck off" in public.
He also used to have an apparent strict position on police actions and immigration, although it didn't really show during the last 5 years, until the last weeks where he courted the far right votes.
As for more political aspects, his most unpopular actions were a fiscal law that prevented rich people to pay more than a given ratio, and the retirement reform that increased progressively the age of retirement (although everybody knows such a reform was necessary, his opponents say it was badly handled).
On the international front, he got critics for receiving Qaddafi in Paris a few years ago, although he also had an active part in the military action against him later. There are suspicions of Qadaffi giving him money for his 2007 campaign, but nothing official yet.
In the end I think he's mainly paying for the current economic situation : rise of the debt and unemployment, downgrading from AAA... People are frustrated and blame him for that.
I don't think he was a good president, but he wasn't a bad one either. No worse than Chirac for example, but everybody loved Chirac as a person.
Completely agree Ether.
The markets are reacting with a streak of 'wtf' to them between this and Greece. I wish they'd just calm down and let shit run its course before they have yet another panic attack that does more harm than necessary.
I'd vote Socialist in the USA every time if we had a party that actually had a legitimate shot of winning; that said Sarkozy didn't seem like that bad of a leader, even if he was an asshole.
Seems like you guys got a good deal. But I will say you should feel really fortunate that either one of the two front runners for Pres in your country are not total loons. Here we have a sane candidate in Obama, and Romney who is tied down by the ideological nutbags in his party, thus making him a shell of his former self. I wish we could just have a political system more like yours, where, no matter who wins, they will probably do a good job and not take on extreme far-right positions. I would probably stop caring about politics, frankly the only reason why I care so much is that I am deeply concerned about the far-right and how they've hijacked the Republican party in the past 30 years.
I'd vote Socialist in the USA every time if we had a party that actually had a legitimate shot of winning; that said Sarkozy didn't seem like that bad of a leader, even if he was an asshole.
Seems like you guys got a good deal. But I will say you should feel really fortunate that either one of the two front runners for Pres in your country are not total loons. Here we have a sane candidate in Obama, and Romney who is tied down by the ideological nutbags in his party, thus making him a shell of his former self. I wish we could just have a political system more like yours, where, no matter who wins, they will probably do a good job and not take on extreme far-right positions. I would probably stop caring about politics, frankly the only reason why I care so much is that I am deeply concerned about the far-right and how they've hijacked the Republican party in the past 30 years.
Quoting myself from the other thread :
Also, this :
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_wrig...l_lose_tomorrow.html?tid=sm_tw_button_toolbar
http://www.businessinsider.com/sarkozy-election-france-cameron-qaddafi-2012-5
Alx
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Honestly, you can't deny that the crisis is a big factor in the unemployment rate.
So very late to the party, I guess I should blame xenoblade
....Actually he created the status of auto entrepreneurship which actually proved useful in people creating the job for themselves (basically freelancing).
And when I say that journalists aren't to trusted I mean this :
le monde :
Début de polémique à droite sur le Tulle-Paris de François Hollande
Huffingtonpost :
Avion de François Hollande: début de polémique sur le jet privé et son symbole
Btw that's only the 1rst promise he didn't keep.
Also the fun starts only now, UMP (who didn't explode btw) is going to make Bayrou pay for this
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