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PAL Charts - Week 17, 2017
- Thread starter Bruno MB
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Resistance100
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Impressed at MK staying at 1. Must be some more Switch stock coming
MK8D beat Prey by 600 units (https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/861495548762877952):
Christopher Dring said:
DecoReturns
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There's a racing joke in here somewhere, but I ain't clever enough
Mario outran his prey?
Graphics Horse
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JonnyDBrit
Member
Talk about a photo finish.
Tis a good sign for MK8D's performance though. It beat out a big new release from Bethesda - that's not nothing to sneeze at - several days after its own launch.
DecoReturns
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Look at the response to the tweet, it's there
Dang, tweet deleted
Here's the response:
(excuse the dutch twitter UI)
Edit: Ah, I see I messed up the original link. It's fixed now!
Based on what?
test_account
XP-39C²
Its still there, it just added "):" to the end of the url. Here is the fixed link:
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/861495548762877952
Not really, MK8D is one SKU, so both Prey SKUs are necessarily below it, for every random split imaginable.
Depends on the percentage drop MK8D experienced. Was MK8D between 60-80k week 1?
High %drop=bad for both, Low % drop = good for Mario, ok for Prey debut.
Graphics Horse
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Ahem.. Based on my completely​ faulty logic.
Yeah I completely messed up there, sorry.
Edited
DecoReturns
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For reference, the original MK8 had a 76% second week drop.
Reineldinho
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How well has Prey sold? Well? Well enough? Not quite much? I' trying to have some context on MK8 victory
Welcome to the UK charts. Where we just don't know.
I've asked for the MK8D percentage drop, hopefully it will be shared then we can extrapolate Preys success or lack of.
Did you ask to Chris Dring on Twitter? I must've missed your own tweet in the case.
So that would indicate a very meagre debut for Prey, somewhere 20k-30k.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Huh. Well, I guess I overestimated Bethesda's star power as a developer here.
So, in spite of its higher debut and the currently limited Switch userbase for obvious reasons, it has a smaller % second week drop compared to the original MK8 (-76%)
Yeah I did but we have the answer now though!
71% drop from week 1 of over 60k means wk2 is at least 17.5K, if it's that low then Prey really bombed hard.
I mean, until the demo OT thread here, I had no idea it was even coming out.
Shown by Dishonored 2's sales and now this, I think the Bethesda star power is in its brands more than Bethesda itself. Doom, Elder Scrolls and Fallout will likely have great day 1 sales even if they're outsourced to High Voltage.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Seems so. While disappointing, it does paint a bit of an interesting picture as to how the company will have to work on developing interest in new or lesser known IPs, or buy up the rights to much better known titles and make sure to use them well ala Wolfenstein and Doom.
Magic Mushroom
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At least it's doing well on Steam and I expect word of mouth to carry it.
Hopefully good reviews will put in the spotlight some more. I don't get how Bethesda handles this game. Arkane deserves better,
To be fair, Arkane makes awesome games with old school PC sensibilities that have little mass market appeal outside their core audience. I am not sure how you market them better.
Jawbreaker
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Arkane deserves much more. Damn. Hopefully PC sales will carry them.
Bethesdas review copy policy being a blanket thing is just weird. Yeah, it probably does make sense for a game like Fallout or Elder Scrolls that will have some reviews call out the bugs, but they're putting big marketing money behind it and the name value will carry it through. For things like Dishonoured and Prey where the name value isn't there and they don't want to advertise it as much but they're quality games, just get the copies out to the press. At least have some people talking about it and have pre-release reviews ready.
Sony did an interesting thing with Horizon. With Zelda on the, uh, horizon they got copies to the press early and not only that, they gave the websites multiple copies so a discussion could happen on their various podcasts rather than just have the one person on staff who got the review copy evangelise it and then have Zelda dominate the conversation after that. I felt it worked really well on the podcasts I listen to and I think that kind of approach could have helped a game like Prey.
Get copies to people before release. TV advertising. Any sort of effort.
Where's Bruno?!
Anyway good for Mario bad for prey but expected, once again Bethesda policy shoots them in the foot. If the review embargo was days before the release it could have rode a positive wave of impressions to an easy victory but instead they'll have to make up for limp sales by aggressively slashing prices.
It's s good thing they got that half a billy from Facebook
Anyway good for Mario bad for prey but expected, once again Bethesda policy shoots them in the foot. If the review embargo was days before the release it could have rode a positive wave of impressions to an easy victory but instead they'll have to make up for limp sales by aggressively slashing prices.
It's s good thing they got that half a billy from Facebook
That's really bad, right? I'm afraid we might be dealing with a bomba, sadly.
OfficerRaichu15
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So what are estimates for this then?
If it's 70k then that would put it around a little over 20k.
If it's 70k then that would put it around a little over 20k.
I dont think that's really true. Both dishonored 1 and evil within did really well for bethesda. I guess the review policy Is actually hurting them nowadays
The first two weeks steamspy is unreliable but I think 100k in 3 days is decent
Acquiescence
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Today I found out that Prey has already been out for a week. Huh.
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it released friday
My question is why in the hell was this merged with last weeks charts? Very confusing to say the least
Yeah, I meant the policy is hurting Dishonoured 2 as it was after their weird policy shift. Evil Within and the original Dishonoured had the standard process.
It's always posted in the previous weeks thread until Bruno gets the new thread up.
For an SP title like Prey I'd say it's alright actually. Not amazing but solid for PC. If they'd got some reviews out for launch plus s but more advertising could have been higher.
PC games like this tend to be little less front loaded I believe so legs eith good WoM should be ok.
Seems like it did a lot worse on console though.
TBH I think the title didn't work for the game and caused confusion and I think the hold on reviews hurt more than helped too.
In short another mishandled launch IMHO.