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PCSX2 - Excellent PS2 emulation, support improving all the time!

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wolfmat

Confirmed Asshole
godhandiscen said:
Hello, can I get links to the best PS2 emulator available? I want to play Shadow of the Colossus specifically.
As far as I'm aware, you're in the thread discussing the best PS2 emulator available, so chances are links have been posted.
 

papercut

Member
Since my PS2 is on it's last legs, I've been looking at using this emulator as a replacement (especially for the blue discs, which the PS2 laser really dislikes).

Anyway, I'm having trouble running anything at full speed and was wondering if I'm using the latest plugins (that matters, right?). I'm running the 0.9.6 version of the emulator.

My system:
Phenom II 940
4GB RAM
4870 1GB

Is there a site that posts the latest plugins? Right now I have:
GSdx 890 0.1.14
SPU2-X 1.1.0

Thanks!
 

iceatcs

Junior Member
papercut said:
Since my PS2 is on it's last legs, I've been looking at using this emulator as a replacement (especially for the blue discs, which the PS2 laser really dislikes).

Anyway, I'm having trouble running anything at full speed and was wondering if I'm using the latest plugins (that matters, right?). I'm running the 0.9.6 version of the emulator.

My system:
Phenom II 940
4GB RAM
4870 1GB

Is there a site that posts the latest plugins? Right now I have:
GSdx 890 0.1.14
SPU2-X 1.1.0

Thanks!
Well I don't have this kind of CPU, but I got 2 computers - one is AMD Athlon 64 and other is Intel Core2Duo, both have about same speed. PCSX2 seem work better on Intel CPU than AMD. But don't take my word since it isn't same as your CPU.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
papercut said:
Since my PS2 is on it's last legs, I've been looking at using this emulator as a replacement (especially for the blue discs, which the PS2 laser really dislikes).

Anyway, I'm having trouble running anything at full speed and was wondering if I'm using the latest plugins (that matters, right?). I'm running the 0.9.6 version of the emulator.

My system:
Phenom II 940
4GB RAM
4870 1GB

Is there a site that posts the latest plugins? Right now I have:
GSdx 890 0.1.14
SPU2-X 1.1.0

Thanks!

i just got into the ps2 emulation thing yesterday. i have fiddled with it before a couple of years ago but i have to say pcsx2 has come a long way.

Your system is faster than mine.. i am using a E6320 overclocked from 1.8Ghz to 2.2Ghz and i am getting respectable speeds with a good number of my games. Some run almost flawlessly like Persona 4 and Nightmare of Druaga.. in others there is some dips here and there. Just taking a look at your plugins i can see that they are out of date. Those are what come with 0.9.6 but there are updates available.

GSdx 1194 - latest version i can find so yours is waaay out of date it seems. When you choose the option in the general configuration.. there are several different selections offered. If you have a Phenom II 940 it might be best to choose either the SSE41 option since your cpu offers that set of instructions. Personally i use SSSE3 which is the most advanced my old Core2Duo supports.

ZeroSPU2 r514-Dev 0.4.6 - i used this plugin instead of the SPU2-X that was set at default. With ZeroSPU2 sound works much better for me.. i also got a boost in framerate iirc. im not sure if r514 0.4.6 version came preloaded with the 0.9.6 version of PCSX2 or if i snagged an updated plugin though.

All of the other plugin options i left at default i think. Here is a screen shot of my plugin setup:
PCSX2pluginsetup-1.jpg


And here are my settings for the GSdx plugin:
PCSX2graphicssettings.jpg


Resolution - i leave this at windowed but i hear that fullscreen mode runs at a slightly higher fps
Renderer - Direct3D9 Hardware is the general option of preference. i suppose there would be a Direct3D10 Hardware option if you are running Vista. If you have the DX10 option def give that a go.
Shader - If you have any modern video card you should be able to set at Pixel Shader 3.0. im using an 8600 GTS which is a couple years old and Shader 3.0 works fine. EDIT: Some games work better with 2.0.. its a try it and see ordeal.
Interlacing - ok.. this one is set to None by default.. When running games however, there was a slight "jitteriness" to the screen. i fiddled with the options and Blend bff is my new BFF because it fixed the problem. It says 1/2 fps but i dont get a 50% hit to framerate and i dont really care about it too much atm to investigate it further. It works so thats all i care about.
Aspect Ratio - whatever
D3D internal res - mine was set to 1024x1024 by default.. ive read that lowering the internal resolution can help with fps but havent experimented with it so far.
Logarithmic Z - ok this is a big one. By default it is not checked and this cures graphical clipping.

Here is what games can look like with Logarithmic Z not enabled:
DruageZexample2.jpg


How it should look like with L Z turned on:
DruageZexample.jpg


Here are my system specs:
C2D E6320 1.86Ghz clocked up just slightly to 2.2Ghz (i did the OC as a test strictly for PSCX2.. cpu speed is very important), 8600 GTS, 4GB memory.

Hope this helps get you up and running. :)
 
Should my 9600mGS 1GB, Core2Duo 2.14 gHZ, 4GB ram laptop be able to use this emulator decently?

Because the one time I tried it everything ran horribly, and I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
What PS2 games have been ported to PC?

Raiden 3 (great port), Onimusha 3 and what else? How do they compare to the emulated versions.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
DaCocoBrova said:
What PS2 games have been ported to PC?

Raiden 3 (great port), Onimusha 3 and what else? How do they compare to the emulated versions.

A good number of the large titles have made their way to PC.. MGS 2 Substance, Resident Evil 4, Onimusha 1/3, Chaos Legion, Megaman X7/X8, Silent Hill 2/3/4, Grandia II, Summoner, Red Faction 1/2, GTA 3/VC/SA.

The number one issue i run into with console ports is the controls.. but a good gamepad makes all the difference. i havent done any direct comparisons yet.. but PS2 emulation is missing one key thing: mods. So the PC version is still worth it imo to pick up if you see them. Chances are they are cheap anyways.. the games tend to come out 1-2 years after release to begin with.

SonOfABeep said:
Should my 9600mGS 1GB, Core2Duo 2.14 gHZ, 4GB ram laptop be able to use this emulator decently?

Because the one time I tried it everything ran horribly, and I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong.

id say its worth a shot.. but with that kind of setup there is gonna be slowdown, no way around that. Some games like Persona 3/4 will probably run pretty decent.
 

ultim8p00

Banned
SonOfABeep said:
Should my 9600mGS 1GB, Core2Duo 2.14 gHZ, 4GB ram laptop be able to use this emulator decently?

Because the one time I tried it everything ran horribly, and I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong.

It should run fine. I have an AMD X2 OCed to 2.20 GHz and 2GB of ram and a 9600 GT and I never get below 40fps. Here are some things that could speed things up for you:

First off, you should get the Maetel hack of PCSX2, not the regular PCSX2. It's much faster. The latest version is 3.3, but try 2.6 first, since it has an extra speed hack that the later versions do not have.

When setting the CPU options, enable dual core mode. Do not use frameskipping. Instead, let all frames be rendered and then max out all the speed hacks. If you have Vista, use Directx 10 as it makes the game much faster. Let GSDX run in native mode and leave the aspect ratio at 4:3. Run the game in fullscreen mode. Use the right type of SSE too. If your comp supports SSSE3, use that appropriate GSDX. Using the wrong one can cause the game to crawl.

I do this and it runs at about 40-60fps
 

Piano

Banned
SonOfABeep said:
Should my 9600mGS 1GB, Core2Duo 2.14 gHZ, 4GB ram laptop be able to use this emulator decently?

Because the one time I tried it everything ran horribly, and I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong.

So I guess that means I shouldn't even try?

Laptop with
Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia 8600m
 

ultim8p00

Banned
TheEastonator said:
So I guess that means I shouldn't even try?

Laptop with
Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia 8600m

It's possible, but be prepared to do a lot of plugin searching an optimizations. I'm running God of War 2 at 50fps on an AMD X2 3800+ OCed to 2.2GHz with 2GB ram and a 9600GT 512MB
 
The only game I work that hard to get working is STALKER.

:lol

Works great in DX9, turn on DX10 and it's instant crash to desktop on new or load game!
 

Clevinger

Member
TheEastonator said:
So I guess that means I shouldn't even try?

Laptop with
Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia 8600m

Try a bunch of different games first. Some still run like shit, or don't run at all, and some run perfectly. It depends on the game.
 
TheEastonator said:
So I guess that means I shouldn't even try?

Laptop with
Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia 8600m
Should be enough to run certain games full speed. Games like Final Fantasy X and Okami run a lot faster than most other games for some reason.
 
TheEastonator said:
So I guess that means I shouldn't even try?

Laptop with
Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.40 GHz
3 GB RAM
Nvidia 8600m

Hmm I have the same setup and was going to wait till I finish my new computer build.

But I wanted to try out FFX and If I get that on this laptop, that would be fantastic.

Going to eventually give it a shot.
 

Piano

Banned
bigmit3737 said:
Hmm I have the same setup and was going to wait till I finish my new computer build.

But I wanted to try out FFX and If I get that on this laptop, that would be fantastic.

Going to eventually give it a shot.

I'm setting things up right now...I don't have FFX, but I'll let you know how some other games run.
 
I tried this emulator about 2 months ago and it ran awfully to not at all on my pc, is there a new version out or any specific plug ins i'm supposed to use? I really want to play and finish GoW2.
Specs btw.
C2D 3.6ghz
3.5 giga ram XP 32
1gb 4850 ATI 750/1100
 

Piano

Banned
Alright, I got it running - not very well, but I'll get to that. I don't really own that many PS2 games, so the only two I've tried so far are Tekken 5 and King of Fighters 2006 (I think it's an awesome game, sue me).

Tekken 5 crashes right before the title screen. I see the Namco logo, I play the little space-shootin' mini game, but as soon as I press start to go to the title screen, it hangs, then crashes. The error logged in the PCSX2 console is "vtlb miss" or something like that. I've googled it, and haven't been able to find any applicable solutions.

King of Fighters 2006 runs, but runs slooow. I presume this is because of my mid-range computer, not emulation issues. It runs at 30FPS, or about 50% speed. So what can I do to speed it up? Currently I'm using all of the settings screenshotted above by Number 2, with the exception of using DX10 since I'm in Vista.

Is there any advantage to using DX10? Or does it hurt the framerate? And, in general, what can I do to help the framrate, aside from frameskip - I can deal with some frameskip, but not to get a 50% speed game up to full speed. Should I have it render at a lower resolution? I was running the games windowed, and I get the impression that fullscreen can improve framerate a bit, but I'm going to need some better methods.

Again, my specs:
Core 2 Duo 2.40GHz
3GB RAM
Vista HP 32bit
Nvidia 8600m (bleh)

Thanks!
 

aeolist

Banned
I got this up and running... and then realized I don't give a shit about PS2 games in HD. Maybe if I had Rez or something, but that just makes me think Mizuguchi is stupid for not putting Rez HD on Steam.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
TheEastonator said:
Alright, I got it running - not very well, but I'll get to that. I don't really own that many PS2 games, so the only two I've tried so far are Tekken 5 and King of Fighters 2006 (I think it's an awesome game, sue me).

Tekken 5 crashes right before the title screen. I see the Namco logo, I play the little space-shootin' mini game, but as soon as I press start to go to the title screen, it hangs, then crashes. The error logged in the PCSX2 console is "vtlb miss" or something like that. I've googled it, and haven't been able to find any applicable solutions.

King of Fighters 2006 runs, but runs slooow. I presume this is because of my mid-range computer, not emulation issues. It runs at 30FPS, or about 50% speed. So what can I do to speed it up? Currently I'm using all of the settings screenshotted above by Number 2, with the exception of using DX10 since I'm in Vista.

Is there any advantage to using DX10? Or does it hurt the framerate? And, in general, what can I do to help the framrate, aside from frameskip - I can deal with some frameskip, but not to get a 50% speed game up to full speed. Should I have it render at a lower resolution? I was running the games windowed, and I get the impression that fullscreen can improve framerate a bit, but I'm going to need some better methods.

Again, my specs:
Core 2 Duo 2.40GHz
3GB RAM
Vista HP 32bit
Nvidia 8600m (bleh)

Thanks!

DX10 is supposed to offer a boost in performance over DX9 so use that if you are able. i think i might have Tekken buried away somewhere.. KoF 2006 i know i dont have.. if i can find Tekken ill reply with what kind of performance im getting.

Also under the Config drop down menu there is an option for Speedhacks. Some of these options can speed up things a little bit. Remember you can just Esc out while playing the game.. fiddle with a setting or two.. then go Run>Execute to continue where you left off.
 

zbarron

Member
For any of you Dragon Quest VIII fans there was a bug in the Black Citadel that made it impossible to beat the game.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=ALZYU53P
I just played through that part using PCSX2 V9.6 and I didn't come across the bug. This might mean that you can actually beat the game. I'll post again when I do.
 
aeolist said:
I got this up and running... and then realized I don't give a shit about PS2 games in HD. Maybe if I had Rez or something, but that just makes me think Mizuguchi is stupid for not putting Rez HD on Steam.
Or it could be contractually tied to XBLA
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Hmm. After TRICO footage, I wanted to give Ico a whirl on this (first time trying it).

Is it just me or does it lock up during the opening sequence? When the dude pulls the sword out of its sheath?

I've tried twiddling some settings, with the same result. I checked the compatibility page and it says it should work..
 

Asparagus

Member
papercut said:
Since my PS2 is on it's last legs, I've been looking at using this emulator as a replacement (especially for the blue discs, which the PS2 laser really dislikes).

Anyway, I'm having trouble running anything at full speed and was wondering if I'm using the latest plugins (that matters, right?). I'm running the 0.9.6 version of the emulator.

My system:
Phenom II 940
4GB RAM
4870 1GB

Is there a site that posts the latest plugins? Right now I have:
GSdx 890 0.1.14
SPU2-X 1.1.0

Thanks!

You can grab the latest plugin and pcsx2 svn releases here.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
gofreak said:
Hmm. After TRICO footage, I wanted to give Ico a whirl on this (first time trying it).

Is it just me or does it lock up during the opening sequence? When the dude pulls the sword out of its sheath?

I've tried twiddling some settings, with the same result. I checked the compatibility page and it says it should work..

On the PCSX2 compatibility page it lists the US version of Ico as "in game" which means not playable but shows something. However, the Euro version seems to be playable. Which version do you have?
 

ultim8p00

Banned
CurlySaysX said:
I tried this emulator about 2 months ago and it ran awfully to not at all on my pc, is there a new version out or any specific plug ins i'm supposed to use? I really want to play and finish GoW2.
Specs btw.
C2D 3.6ghz
3.5 giga ram XP 32
1gb 4850 ATI 750/1100

ultim8p00 said:
It should run fine. I have an AMD X2 OCed to 2.20 GHz and 2GB of ram and a 9600 GT and I never get below 40fps. Here are some things that could speed things up for you:

First off, you should get the Maetel hack of PCSX2, not the regular PCSX2. It's much faster. The latest version is 3.3, but try 2.6 first, since it has an extra speed hack that the later versions do not have.

When setting the CPU options, enable dual core mode. Do not use frameskipping. Instead, let all frames be rendered and then max out all the speed hacks. If you have Vista, use Directx 10 as it makes the game much faster. Let GSDX run in native mode and leave the aspect ratio at 4:3. Run the game in fullscreen mode. Use the right type of SSE too. If your comp supports SSSE3, use that appropriate GSDX. Using the wrong one can cause the game to crawl.

I do this and it runs at about 40-60fps

Make sure you don't run it from the CD though. I ran it from the CD and I got like 3 seconds per frame. ISOed it and it now runs at 50fps on average.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Number 2 said:
On the PCSX2 compatibility page it lists the US version of Ico as "in game" which means not playable but shows something. However, the Euro version seems to be playable. Which version do you have?

Euro.

I did some googling, and it seems changing some clamping options fixes this. Just tried now and seems to have fixed it. (You have to change EE and VU clamping options to Extra+Preserve Sign in the advanced options)
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Okay.. found my copy of Tekken 5 and with my settings it runs at about 30fps so its barely playable. Not sure how fast it was running for you TheEastonator. However when searching online i found a video of youtube where someone got it to run at full speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KkTgwAF56k. That is running off of an E8400 clocked to 3.9GHz.. the next time i run into a hundred bucks or so i know what im getting :D

Fortunately for me my main genre of choice is rpgs and adventure games so most of the games i want to play run pretty good. PCSX2 is so great for me because i dont have to worry about ruining my original discs from playing.. ive already ruined a few games just from very slight general use.. maybe its my PS2 scratching them or something. Now my only concern with my collection is space to organize them and dust on the boxes :)

Here are some shots of games that ive tested so far with my setup (note the stats/fps/etc on the top of the window)

SMT 3 - runs pretty good.. full speed almost always.. every once in a while it seems to drop in framerate like when certain cutscenes happen. Some cutscenes run flawless like the first image below.
SMT3Example2.jpg

SMT3Example3.jpg


Persona 3 Fes - runs great.. full speed, although some minor graphics glitches with some floor/shadow stuff. Supposedly its fixed in the current beta of PCSX2.
P3Fesexample.jpg

P3Fesexample3.jpg


Tales of the Abyss - runs great.. full speed. Slight fps drop in overworld but combat seems to be pretty solid speed.
TotAExample2.jpg

TotAExample3.jpg


Atelier Iris - runs pretty much full speed except in some movie cutscenes. Very minor graphical flaws.
AtelierEMExample.jpg

AtelierEMExample2.jpg


Atelier Iris 2 - same as the first game from what i can tell.
Atelier2Example.jpg

Atelier2Example2.jpg


Atelier Iris 3 - has more graphical issues than the first two games but speed is great still.
Atelier3Example.jpg

Atelier3Example2.jpg


Disaster Report - looks pretty good and runs decent. Some slight slowdown.. but again a faster cpu would def make it almost flawless.
DisasterReportExample.jpg


Shining Force Neo- near perfect from what i played into it. i should really get a usb memory card reader so i can transfer my saves over.
ShiningForceNeoExample2.jpg


Rogue Galaxy - runs at about 40-50fps for me. For an action game it makes it unplayable tho. Faster cpu would again help here. Looks great though.
RogueGExample.jpg
 

Clevinger

Member
Having a faster CPU doesn't = a perfect frame rate. The emulator isn't finished, and all the games work somewhere in the range of broken to perfect.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Clevinger said:
Having a faster CPU doesn't = a perfect frame rate. The emulator isn't finished, and all the games work somewhere in the range of broken to perfect.

i understand that. im just excited i guess. im not one of those super-mint collector people.. i dont have enough money for that.. but the prospect of me not having to risk mess up my games collection has got me going. On top of that, i have this compulsion for HD recording and its much cheaper for me to Fraps something than spring for a $200+ dv card.

Speaking of HD recording.. i did a little test with Fraps and Persona 3 FES that came out fantastic. It took me a good hour of fiddling with settings but i got Fraps to record in super high resolution at 60fps while running PCSX2 :D Its my proud computing moment of the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgnP9WuLag is the link for anyone interested.. be sure to click on the HQ button :)
 

Truespeed

Member
It sure would have been nice if the BC capable PS3 would have been able to apply user selected filters instead of the default ass filter it applies.
 

Spasm

Member
I've given up on trying to play ICO on my PS3, and will be playing it with a wireless 360 pad on PCSX2 instead.
 

Piano

Banned
Number 2 said:
Okay.. found my copy of Tekken 5 and with my settings it runs at about 30fps so its barely playable. Not sure how fast it was running for you TheEastonator. However when searching online i found a video of youtube where someone got it to run at full speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KkTgwAF56k. That is running off of an E8400 clocked to 3.9GHz.. the next time i run into a hundred bucks or so i know what im getting :D
Damn, okay, maybe my laptop isn't quite built for Tekken 5, then :lol. Oh well - thanks for the input.

ultim8p00 said:
Make sure you don't run it from the CD though. I ran it from the CD and I got like 3 seconds per frame. ISOed it and it now runs at 50fps on average.
So I should rip all of my games before playing them? Shouldn't that just affect loadtimes, not framerate?
 

vareon

Member
My 2.20 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB Ram, adn 8600 GT apparently can't run FFX at 60 FPS, it always dropped to 40 or 50. Is that the best my hardware can do or there's another trick?
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
TheEastonator said:
So I should rip all of my games before playing them? Shouldn't that just affect loadtimes, not framerate?

i would say yes. Some games seems to be affected to a greater degree by this than others. Also that ISO mounting plugin that comes standard can be problematic. There seems to be a good size hit on fps on my machine on every game that i had used with it. After mounting the image via Alcohol 120 this wasnt an issue any longer.

vareon said:
My 2.20 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB Ram, adn 8600 GT apparently can't run FFX at 60 FPS, it always dropped to 40 or 50. Is that the best my hardware can do or there's another trick?

Havent tried FFX yet. ill have to dig it out and rip the image. ill let you know how it goes. Also different plugins and newer versions can make a huge difference.
 

EGM92

Member
vareon said:
My 2.20 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB Ram, adn 8600 GT apparently can't run FFX at 60 FPS, it always dropped to 40 or 50. Is that the best my hardware can do or there's another trick?

There are speedhacks/graphics options that make FFX run near flawless. Some people, like myself, are able to run it at a 120fps 99% of the time. Your CPU is limiting you.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Spasm said:
I've given up on trying to play ICO on my PS3, and will be playing it with a wireless 360 pad on PCSX2 instead.

Mine crashed on me after some time playing..

I don't think it's stable enough for Ico. Think I'm going to go back to my PS2.
 
I can't get SOTC or ICO to work on PCSX :( My PC isn't great, but a 4850 and a dual core with 4GB of RAM should be enough to get it running semi-decently, right?
 

DieH@rd

Banned
TheGreatDave said:
I can't get SOTC or ICO to work on PCSX :( My PC isn't great, but a 4850 and a dual core with 4GB of RAM should be enough to get it running semi-decently, right?

Depends on the clock speed of them dual cores. Some games just need higher clocks to run smoothly.
 
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