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Ah the memories... Cheers Gary, golden years indeed!RSTEIN said:
Ah the memories... Cheers Gary, golden years indeed!RSTEIN said:
volmer said:Shame that he was fired, but that video review of IO's new game was pretty distasteful, bad game or not.
If he can't comment, it sounds like he's bringing a suit. What other reason would there be?
Heh, kinda sucks we don't see as much of him any more...RSTEIN said:
The video review, which was much more negative was taken down.Woo-Fu said:Doesn't make much sense to fire him over the review due to pressure from the publisher and still leave the review up. Has to be more to it. I suspect it is more likely just the final straw in an ongoing management dispute.
Due to the poor way it was handled, though, everybody will remember the final straw. I just get the image of whoever fired him stepping on the tines of a rake only to realize he was about to get smacked in the face by the handle.
volmer said:Shame that he was fired, but that video review of IO's new game was pretty distasteful, bad game or not.
Whoompthereitis said:Hey Mosaic-
Did Jeff get along well with all the other Gamespot editors? Judging from the Hotspot, everyone really played off each other well, to the point where it seemed like a real group of friends. Is that pretty accurate?
How so? I've finished the game, and all of the issues he named, I agree with. He wasn't overly vicious, backed up his points well, and made mention of aspects of the game he did like.volmer said:Shame that he was fired, but that video review of IO's new game was pretty distasteful, bad game or not.
Totally agree. I don't get where this hate is coming from, at all.bishoptl said:How so? I've finished the game, and all of the issues he named, I agree with. He wasn't overly vicious, backed up his points well, and made mention of aspects of the game he did like.
As someone who has also had games slammed in the press, this was pretty benign.
ah. need more sleep.MiamiWesker said:I am pretty sure that was a joke.
Bleh. I bet he could have said all that, given the game an 8.0 and nobody at Eidos would have batted an eyelid.bishoptl said:How so? I've finished the game, and all of the issues he named, I agree with. He wasn't overly vicious, backed up his points well, and made mention of aspects of the game he did like.
As someone who has also had games slammed in the press, this was pretty benign.
Gary Whitta said:Totally agree. I don't get where this hate is coming from, at all.
Nobody looks at game reviews, just the score. Well, that's the impression the internet gives me but whateverfallout said:Bleh. I bet he could have said all that, given the game an 8.0 and nobody at Eidos would have batted an eyelid.
volmer said:Shame that he was fired, but that video review of IO's new game was pretty distasteful, bad game or not.
Maybe some Zelda fans still can't fathom the 8.8?
Xater said:Maybe some Zelda fans still can't fathom the 8.8? :lol
I always liked Jeff. I think he is funny and I always thought that he gives the games a fair shot. I might not agree with him in everything but that is nothing that would make me dislike him as a person.
Whoompthereitis said:Hey Mosaic-
Did Jeff get along well with all the other Gamespot editors? Judging from the Hotspot, everyone really played off each other well, to the point where it seemed like a real group of friends. Is that pretty accurate?
Vyse The Legend said:That's pretty much my take on Jeff. I sometimes didn't agree with his reviews, but he's hilarious. I used to listen to the Hotspot for him and Rich, the dynamic duo.
Btw, hi Rich! I know you are lurking out there.
Xater said:Yeah the Hotspot stuff was awesome. Well we will never have that again and either way we boycott GS now.
:loljonabbey said:So was watching Rich G. hosting their video feeds / interpretations from Tokyo when a new console came out, etc. Good times.
Xater said:Maybe some Zelda fans still can't fathom the 8.8? :lol
I always liked Jeff. I think he is funny and I always thought that he gives the games a fair shot. I might not agree with him in everything but that is nothing that would make me dislike him as a person.
Jimmy Stav said:So I just watched the video review and it was pretty harsh (in an entertaining way). Not that I've even played the game, but it almost seemed like a response to pressure to give it a positive score? I haven't read much of the thread, so my idea is probably very fresh, but it's just what I was thinking when watching it.
Jimmy Stav said:EDIT: and whatever happened to Rich Gallup?
well him doing that didn't exactly help his credibility. it showed he was going into it with a bias, not something you want.TSA said:Only the ignorant moron Zelda fans bitched about the 8.8. The point where he dug a hole for himself is whe he wrote that crap "defense" editorial piece explaining why the Zelda series has sucked, in a nutshell, since Ocarina of Time. Dumbest thing you can do as a journalist is pick a fight with the fanbase.
Vyse The Legend said:Considering TimT resigned because of Jeff's termination, I'd say they are a close-knit group. I imagine more people would too, but people have bills to pay, so it's not that easy.
Jimmy Stav said:EDIT: and whatever happened to Rich Gallup?
We just got off the phone with Sarah Cain, a CNET spokesperson who wanted to amend CNET's previous statement to ******* on the recent firing of executive editor Jeff Gerstmann. While reiterating that CNET does not discuss personal employee matters with the press, Cain said directly that "we do not terminate employees based on external pressure from advertisers." When asked specifically about whether any such pressure was even attempted on Eidos' part, Cain had no comment. We're still waiting for a response to multiple e-mail requests for comment by Eidos PR.
While we had Cain on the line, we also asked her about the odd disappearance of Gerstmann's video review of the game from the Gamespot site. She responded by pointing out a note at the bottom of the still-running text review for the game, which states that "this review has been updated to include differences between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions and a clarification on the game's multiplayer mode."
When pressed for clarification, Cain said that this note applied to the video review as well. "At the bottom of the post of the [text] review we made a note that we have updated the review, and we made those decisions based on our own editorial standards," she said. "It was our decision to take down the [video] review." Given this justification, we can't help but wonder why Gamespot couldn't just edit the video review, as they did the text version. Why remove the entire thing if the problem was really just a "clarification?" When asked just that question, Cain reiterated her initial statement.
Not to mention he gave Freedom Fighters a high score when that came out, so he must have been disappointed by the game as well.bishoptl said:How so? I've finished the game, and all of the issues he named, I agree with. He wasn't overly vicious, backed up his points well, and made mention of aspects of the game he did like.
As someone who has also had games slammed in the press, this was pretty benign.
You can see his farewell episode from On The Spot here. Just go to the end of the video where they have the montage and every talks about how they will miss him and all.Jimmy Stav said:EDIT: and whatever happened to Rich Gallup?
...and we made those decisions based on our own editorial standards.
Yes. For all the horror surrounding this affair, I found that video hilarious.talking head said:is jeff gerstmann the guy who wouldn't stand up to play wii sports?
talking head said:is jeff gerstmann the guy who wouldn't stand up to play wii sports?
Opus Angelorum said:Bullshit.
The Video Review has always been of the 'short review' style, in that it touches on the main points of the written review.
The addition to the review text is minimal to say the least, there would have been no need to amend the video.
Yeah, thinking the same thing. That PR doesn't sound very believable.Opus Angelorum said:Bullshit.
The Video Review has always been of the 'short review' style, in that it touches on the main points of the written review.
The addition to the review text is minimal to say the least, there would have been no need to amend the video.
talking head said:is jeff gerstmann the guy who wouldn't stand up to play wii sports?
Ecchi-Time7 said:His video review was pretty good IMO, so I don't see why they fire him, its not his fault the game was crappy.
They have, it's just the same bullshit you hear from every PR response.ItsInMyVeins said:No comment from GS or CNET yet, huh?
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