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People that ask to use your wifi

If he'd introduced himself and seemed friendly, sure for a couple of days.

The way he behaved, though, I'd probably say yes after setting up wireshark.
 
Neighbor once asked me if he can use my internet for a day, his router hadn't arrived yet and he needed to do stuff for school.

I dislike not knowing what kind of shit other people do with my connection, but he was nice enough and I can't say no, so I gave him the password.

Three months later I opened my router's interface and realized that he was still using our internet. Fuck that. Immediately blocked him. I obviously knew he'd use it for longer than a day and I was fine with that, but three months without ever asking again is stretching my limits a bit too far.

Sorry but that was rude of you. Was just browsing gaf....
 

Theonik

Member
If he was polite I might consider.
Wouldn't give them the actual password. I have a rolling 4 hr guest network that is sandboxed and running on strict access logging and controls.

E: Come to think of it I would consider charging them 50p per hour for the privilege.
 

sleepnaught

Member
No way, unless they are family or friends. Any illegal activity will be your responsibility. I wouldn't want some dead beat sucking up my bandwidth anyway. Not that they could now that I got Gigabit internet, though ;)
 
If the person asking was nice then I'd do it. I've no download caps so it wouldn't cause any issues that way. I'd just tell them to not download a bunch of shit.
 

keuja

Member
Normally if asked politely, I would set a temp password and share my network for a limited time. But if asked so rudely you were right to tell him to fuck off...
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
I don't want to generalize, but this board is all about helping others in topics like refugees, hunger etc., but as soon as you have to offer your resource (which doesn't even add any cost), you hoard it for paranoid reasons.
Wifi capability is not a basic human right like refuge or sustenance. The fuck are you on
 

wetflame

Pizza Dog
Arguably in modern society it is but that's an argument for another time.

Are you also arguing that I am the sole source of connectivity to the internet for my college student neighbour? That if I don't provide my wifi password they are banned from the internet for life and unable to access it in any way? This guy's neighbour is a college student, he can use the computers at his college. There's also the fact that my hypothetical neighbour may use my internet to download terabytes of pirated movies or CP, and get me fined for hitting download limits/arrested.
 

Donos

Member
OP, Emule and torrents don't run from thin air. Don't be a dick to a poor student :)

the way you discribed it, hell no, i would not give him any of my juice

Have all sorts of nice "guest" settings in my Router UI, so if there would be someone who is belivably in need, i would temporary set it up. With maybe 0,5mbit or something like that.
 

Volimar

Member
Are you also arguing that I am the sole source of connectivity to the internet for my college student neighbour? That if I don't provide my wifi password they are banned from the internet for life and unable to access it in any way? This guy's neighbour is a college student, he can use the computers at his college. There's also the fact that my hypothetical neighbour may use my internet to download terabytes of pirated movies or CP, and get me fined for hitting download limits/arrested.


The children are our future. Why do you hate the future?
 

Theonik

Member
Are you also arguing that I am the sole source of connectivity to the internet for my college student neighbour? That if I don't provide my wifi password they are banned from the internet for life and unable to access it in any way? This guy's neighbour is a college student, he can use the computers at his college. There's also the fact that my hypothetical neighbour may use my internet to download terabytes of pirated movies or CP, and get me fined for hitting download limits/arrested.
It is not related to your case in particular just to the perception that internet is a luxury. It is not. The guy is a douche though I have no qualms in you not offering them internet.
 
Arguably in modern society it is but that's an argument for another time.

Transportation is also a basic human right in modern society. So in that case, of course poor college student, you may use my wifi to watch your porn. And while you're at it, here are the keys to my car so you can pick up your weed from your dealer. Just be sure to roll down the windows if you light one up in there.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
He probably already knows your password, but was just being polite by pretending to ask for your permission.
 

Theonik

Member
Transportation is also a basic human right in modern society. So in that case, of course poor college student, you may use my wifi to watch your porn. And while you're at it, here are the keys to my car so you can pick up your weed from your dealer. Just be sure to roll down the windows if you light one up in there.
I don't know where people are reading this from. It's one thing to say 'People need food' to saying 'Go ahead ma man raid my fridge' this isn't a charity.
 
I always offer my wifi password to anyone I know who visit my place.

But in your case, I'd say no as well. That's just rude.
 
'Until his is connected'

Sure, he was going to use it until you changed the password or he hit your usage limit (lol at the US still having usage limits).


You did the right thing my dude. You shouldn't share your wifi with strangers, you'll be on the hook for any fucked up shit they might decide to download.
 

pottuvoi

Banned
Family and close friends and only with MAC filtering.

I wouldn't be comfortable letting stranger on home network, perhaps for separate/temporal wifi trough old phone.
 

Floody

Member
I'd be willing to hear them out, but would 9 times out of 10 say no. Especially so if I didn't know them.

Definitely would've said no in your case.
 
I've noticed this with people, younger people that visit my home. No sooner are they through the door then they want the wifi password. It's like politeness an etiquette have not caught up with society yet and when you invite people to visit the first thing they want is a reason to stare at thier phones instead of having a conversation is a bit rude.

Another time when I moved into this place my neighbor saw I was getting the internet connected and that same day he knocked on my door asking to share it! To be fair he did offer to pay half the costs and I realised why he was asking because there service was do damn expensive here. I,said no becuse it's bad enough when my wife is streaming video and my speed goes to shit, I'm not having his wife doing the same. "I only want it for Emails" he said, I could smell that bullshit a mile off.

My Wifi name: getoffmylawn
 
Wifi capability is not a basic human right like refuge or sustenance. The fuck are you on

Sharing resources, just because it is not essential for life, doesn't mean that you shouldn't let other your new neighbor use it, students obviously need the internet. It is probably the least expensive and troubling resource to share, but not when YOU have to share yours.

And it is according to some orgs: http://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is-now-a-basic-human-right-1783081865

And after all, even if you don't subscribe to the idea of sharing resources at no cost, cutting off the neighbors is going to create a negative environment where people are going to be less mindful of others when it comes to information, loud music, parking, smoking, leaving trash etc.
 

SKINNER!

Banned
Sharing resources, just because it is not essential for life, doesn't mean that you shouldn't let other your new neighbor use it, students obviously need the internet. It is probably the least expensive and troubling resource to share,

That's debatable.

And after all, even if you don't subscribe to the idea of sharing resources at no cost, cutting off the neighbors is going to create a negative environment where people are going to be less mindful of others when it comes to information, loud music, parking, smoking, leaving trash etc.

lmao, what era do you live in? People have been cutting off their neighbours long before the internet existed. People just generally don't give a fuck about one another as much as you think they should.
 
Sharing resources, just because it is not essential for life, doesn't mean that you shouldn't let other your new neighbor use it, students obviously need the internet. It is probably the least expensive and troubling resource to share, but not when YOU have to share yours.

And it is according to some orgs: http://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is-now-a-basic-human-right-1783081865

And after all, even if you don't subscribe to the idea of sharing resources at no cost, cutting off the neighbors is going to create a negative environment where people are going to be less mindful of others when it comes to information, loud music, parking, smoking, leaving trash etc.

The problem is that the person could abuse it easily (pirate stuff for example) and you'd be the one on the hook. And in this case why would you trust him at all when he can't even bother to act nice for a second?

If the student really needs that Internet, then I'm pretty sure they can go to their campus or something where their study place offers free wifi for students.
 
Excuse me, I didn't get my power hooked up yet, or my water...can I use yours. I have my own hoses and cables? Also, I didn't get to the supermarket yet, can I use your fridge real quick?

GTFO

TBH I would be happy to provide stuff for my neighbours once I got to know them but as a first interaction, with manners not in place. No sir, you may not use my stuff.
 
And after all, even if you don't subscribe to the idea of sharing resources at no cost, cutting off the neighbors is going to create a negative environment where people are going to be less mindful of others when it comes to information, loud music, parking, smoking, leaving trash etc.

neighbor-put-password-on-their-wifi.jpg
 
Nope I'm limited. Even if I wasn't they'd have to convince me. Banging on my door wouldn't do it.

I once had this weird neighbor knock on my door one day and ask to come in and watch the game. I had a Bears football game on... I told him no and closed the door lol.
 

Couleurs

Member
Someone visiting me, sure. A neighbor? Hell no, I'm not going to pay one of their bills for them.

I'd probably just make up some bullshit about how I'm close to hitting my data cap even though I don't come close.
 

Theonik

Member
Excuse me, I didn't get my power hooked up yet, or my water...can I use yours. I have my own hoses and cables? Also, I didn't get to the supermarket yet, can I use your fridge real quick?

GTFO

TBH I would be happy to provide stuff for my neighbours once I got to know them but as a first interaction, with manners not in place. No sir, you may not use my stuff.
Like, if your neighbour asked him if they could borrow a cup of sugar would you not oblige?
 
You made the right call. If he pirates stuff on your network and gets caught, it's your ass.
Pretty much this, you can add anything shady to it.

It's your ass if anything happens.

Like, if your neighbour asked him if they could borrow a cup of sugar would you not oblige?
Sugar, water, food, whatever, but not the WiFi. It's all about risk.

I have a friend who shared his WiFi with a neighbour, turns out the neighbour pirated some stuff and my friend had to pay around 1000€ out of his own pocket. It's his WiFi so it's his responsibility.
 
The problem is that the person could abuse it easily (pirate stuff for example) and you'd be the one on the hook. And in this case why would you trust him at all when he can't even bother to act nice for a second?

If the student really needs that Internet, then I'm pretty sure they can go to their campus or something where their study place offers free wifi for students.

He didn't introduce himself, but he asked how were they doing (which is the most common way to seem polite without meaning to start any conversation), then he asked about wifi. I think that both OP and the student aren't very interested in being friends anyway, otherwise OP should have said introduced himself as soon as he saw someone move in.

You are overthinking it, most people don't join the college to download illegal material using their neighbors' wifi. He just probably wants to connect with friends in the empty flat, or maybe just doesn't want to eat alone without entertainment. It sucks to be offline at home from 8 pm.
 

NekoFever

Member
I don't mind friends and family using mine. I wouldn't let a neighbour on because I don't want them using it long-term.

At my old place someone moved into the building and was putting up notes on the noticeboard asking for the password to Skynet (my network, though he didn't know whose it was). I just ignored it and the notes started getting increasingly passive-aggressive. I have no idea why he picked mine when I could see half a dozen networks in the immediate vicinity.
 

Theonik

Member
If I could be prosecuted as a result of whatever that neighbour did with said cup of sugar, no
You would if you could reasonably assume he'd use it maliciously. But same applies here. It's why torrent legislation largely fails. Internet activity is not considered admissible evidence.

yes but that's not really the same thing
I mean you mentioned those particular things I'd not offer my WiFi either largely because of liability or offer them the guest WiFi maybe? (It's rate limited, behind a filter and isolated from the rest of the network, still no probably but I'm an ass.)

I don't mind friends and family using mine. I wouldn't let a neighbour on because I don't want them using it long-term.

At my old place someone moved into the building and was putting up notes on the noticeboard asking for the password to Skynet (my network, though he didn't know whose it was). I just ignored it and the notes started getting increasingly passive-aggressive. I have no idea why he picked mine when I could see half a dozen networks in the immediate vicinity.
It's the name.
 
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