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Persona 5 Spoiler Free Early Impressions Thread
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klabautermann
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BRSxIgnition
Member
March 29th @ 9 AM PST. Expect the review thread to be posted shortly before that.
artsi
Member
Persona 5 delayed to June 4th. Please be excited.
BRSxIgnition
Member
You don't have much of a choice if you're getting it day 1.
Amazon has regular version and steel book listed with launch day delivery.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Ah, I thought it was steelbook only until they ran out.
In that case, no real reason to avoid the steelbook unless you really prefer the regular plastic and it's boxart.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
Hey dudes this is the MOST IMPORTANT question:
Is the entire game a "blocked scene"?
I know it was in Japan but I'm hoping Atlus comes to their senses so I can stream this damn game for my brother.
Is the entire game a "blocked scene"?
I know it was in Japan but I'm hoping Atlus comes to their senses so I can stream this damn game for my brother.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Ehh that's usually the case when games first launch. XV had the same issue.
Seems like it, yeah.
Those feel more like easter eggs to me. When I said cameos, I was thinking on the level of what Persona 4 and P3P did.
Magicman103
Member
The regular version of the game includes a p5 dualshock 4 skin.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
FFXV?
I was able to stream that on launch day.
Edit: Wonder if I can just share play it with him?
Son Of Sparda
Member
I think I should've defined what I meant by being "better" than Persona 4. I don't mean that P5 won't have better graphics or dungeons or stuff like that. I'm sure it does. What I meant was that Persona 5 will be an improved version of Persona 4 and not the next level thing that I expected it to be. For instance, the social links are there but they still work pretty much the same way. The jobs you can do, the way your free time works, spending your time in school and clubs... they all from what I've seen looked like the improved versions of what we had in Persona 4.
Besides the dungeons and maybe combat (to some degree), the other elements of Persona 5 haven't really evolved from what we saw in Persona 4. They've only been improved. I was hoping for a P2 --> P3 kind of jump but what we got here feels more like a P3 --> P4 situation. So yeah, it'll be better than P4, but not really in the way that I wanted it to be.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Question to people that played the game do the characters actually seem like friends? In P3, I never got the sense the characters were actually friends with each other just that they were fighting for a common goal. In P4 it was very clear the characters were not only fighting for the common goal but actually liked each other as well. I'm wondering if the character interactions are more like P3 or P4.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Typical Atlus. One step forward, an entire football field back.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
Yet they removed that in Yakuza 0 ¯\_(ツ_/¯
Until THE LAST MISSION... which was major bullshit.
robotzombie
Member
Any general suggestions for the game? Is SP hard to come by/should you avoid casting spells constantly? Are there good early personas to fuse or anything?
Silver Arrows
Banned
Yet they removed that in Yakuza 0 ¯\_(ツ
Atlus is absolutely anal about spoilers, so I seriously doubt they will ever remove it.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Yet they removed that in Yakuza 0 ¯\_(ツ
I haven't started playing y0 yet. Was it 'removed' in the sense that for a period of time after launch, the share button was blocked and then later that block was removed? Or was it never present save for the aforementioned last battle?
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I was able to stream on day one. Until the last mission, of course.
I don't understand this "spoiler" mentality. If people want to watch the game instead of play there's nothing stopping them. All this "blocked scene" nonsense does is hurt people like me who don't want to invest in a major streaming setup since my audience is usually just my brother and some friends.
Silver Arrows
Banned
It's further proof that Atlus is ass backwards with regards to a lot of things, willing to shoot itself in the foot to screw over fans.
But then again, they have always been anal about spoilers. Pretty much every Persona game, even the spinoffs, had Atlus sending out a small image basically saying 'Don't spoil, or else' and we all know the former exploits of Atlustube.
At the same time...it's hilariously ironic that while Atlus is very gleeful to tell people that
Adachi is the killer in Persona 4
artsi
Member
Atlus never removed it for JP version.
Silver Arrows
Banned
It's even more hilarious when you consider that those that are hellbent on trying to spoil the game, they'll resort to capture cards they probably have, or phone pics. So now you are back at square one. So what was the point of blocking ALL streaming done by the PS4 again?
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I would not be a Persona fan if it wasn't for Giant Bomb recording the entirety of P4 online.
The series wasn't even on my radar until then.
Silver Arrows
Banned
You're still going to have people do that anyway, again by people with capture cards. Hell, there's probably people playing early English copies, or have played the entire game in Japanese on Twitch. So why the hell are Atlustube not cracking down on that if they are this hellbent on trying to protect players, supposedly?
It just reeks of Atlus Japan trying to take the easy way out and screw over fans. As per usual.
Edit: As posted above, most people know of Persona 4 via the famed Endurance Run. Is Atlus going to basically take it down if Giant Bomb even try to do it?
Early on SP is hard to come by and items to restore it are hard to find/expensive. It feels good managing it through the dungeon, and at least for the first one it will prevent you from completing it all in one go. There are plenty of "rest areas" though and shortcuts you can use so it doesn't feel like you are retracing the same steps over and over again.
I don't know if I would recommend any particular personas...I just fuse new ones every chance I get and make sure I keep at least one of each magic type.
Karak
Member
what...
Silver Arrows
Banned
This business with the block scene restrictions is probably going to be the same as P4A being region locked. It puts Atlus in exclusively awful company, and it reflects poorly on them.
NoctisVsStar
Member
I got 5hrs now played, so I haven't met the entire squad but.. ryuji and the MC get along particular well. The good thing is Ryuji isn't yosuke or jumpei.
He meant march.
Son Of Sparda
Member
I agree. Though it was still hell of a lot better than having the whole game blocked like how the JP version is.
Which is ironic since they are releasing the game 7 months after the Japanese version so everything is already there on the Youtube.
The JP version won't let you use your share button at all during the story. So iirc the entire game is blocked until you reach the Premium Adventure mode. In the western version Atlus removed that stupid restriction and let you share anything about the game until finale. Only the stuff that happen in finale are restricted in western version of the game.
It didn't happen during an update if that's what you were wondering about. The western version was share free from the get go. Though, they did listen to feedback from fans and patch the Sega logo that would appear when you'd take screen shots.
I agree with y'all. It's a dumb decision. Just explaining what the true motive is.
KingParappa
Neo Member
Silver Arrows
Banned
Exactly. I have seen a lot of screenshots posted in the various Tumblr tags of characters as well. So once again, great fucking job Atlus. *golf clap*
Well, maybe being lumped in with Rocksteady for 'Most boneheaded way to prevent spoilers this generation' will make them change their minds.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
Maybe we can start a hashtag campaign or something... I hate feeling powerless on this.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Atlus doesn't care about pleasing the English fans, so I doubt they will even bother to listen, considering they are the ones that need to be talked to. USA branch is so hamstrung it isn't even funny.
Pandora012
Member
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
So how much more swearing is there in this than P3/4?
Two questions:
HOW!?!!
and
If the games are packaged already, why do we have to wait another week? ATLUS GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER >_>
Yes. They're not hard encoded into the video either.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Compared to Persona 3 the sequel (P4) is choke full of tropes.
- Yosuke is basically Junpei 2.0 but without the maturation (I mean Junpei basically has to suffer through the most shit throughout the game and you can really see him develop as a result). At least he does become less insecure and confident through the social links and him developing a strongly implied boy-crush on you was amusing (especially considering the way he reacts to Kanji in the early parts of the game)
- Chie is fun to be around with but besides the 'cool and fun tomgirl that is athletic, likes Kung Fu movies and steak' there is not really any depth to her and almost 0 character development
- Yukiko... sigh, social link spoiler:
It's absolutely sad to watch the "beautful, refined, obedient perfect Japanese house wife trope character try to break out of her trope, make her own decisions and future and develop as a character... only to do a complete 180 during the last 3 or so events and return exactly to what she was in the beginning, the obedient daughter that inherits the family business and does what is expected of her
- Rise: Is basically a massive fanservice character and the personified "the popular and beatiful idol that has nothing in her mind but chasing and dating the more ordinary male main character" trope. Almost all she does is being kawaii and going "kyaaaaa, senpaiiiiiiiiiii ❤❤❤"
Only Teddy (even if I don't like the character himself and think he is rather obnoxious, he at least has a unique design and breaks the entire "pet mascot character" thing halfway through), Naoto and Kanji (who disappointingly enough somehow turns to "nono, I actually was not gay or even bi after all" as part of his character development, disappointing playing it save ATLUS, at least they did the opposite in Catherine, hehe) were standout characters from the main cast.
Most of the characters remaining flat and having limited character development was disappointing especially after the whole "face your shadow and go beyond your fears and what you pretend to be" scenario every single one of them goes through.
It was also disappointing coming from Persona 3 where pretty much every single character is confronted with drastic changes in their lives as part of the story and goes through some drastic character development, Koromaru aside. Persona 3 also had much more realistic and interesting character relationship dynamics as they were basically all people being forced to live and fight together by the circumstances despite not liking or outright hating several other of the characters. That makes them developing genuine bonds during the story all the more impactful. Meanwhile Persona 4 is all about the Scooby Doo gang that sticks together and is best buddies, the odd friendly taunt from Chie against Yosuke aside. The side characters (especially Adachi and Dojima) were better, but even then lose out against the competition in Persona 3, especially for the social-link only characters.
Good thing it seems Persona 5 heavily takes from Persona 3 and Catherine as far as characters are concerned rather than P4.
NoctisVsStar
Member
A lot, which shocked me in a good way.