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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
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randomusername
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7 bucks? meh. Hopefully they go on sale or do some promos or something
A Dead Diehard
Member
You say that, but the option for a P5 expansion was included in that survey...
TurnipFritters
Member
Just think of the DLC Personas as, like, level grinding DLC or some other form of pay to win DLC
Morning Star
Member
That DLC looks awfully pricey. And that means there won't be any in the TYH edition like the Japanese CE right?
I loved it, vast improvement over P3 and P5 in terms of gameplay.
I loved it, vast improvement over P3 and P5 in terms of gameplay.
TurnipFritters
Member
Nonsense, you get free Japanese audio dlc 😃
I wouldn't mind an expansion as long as it wasn't just side quest stuff.
klabautermann
Member
That just makes me think FES/Portable/Golden. I'd be fine with that, as it's been the standard for the past 2 games. And sort of with the PSP ports of 1, 2IS, and 2EP.
Polygon just put up 15 minutes of Gameplay footage with Phil and Griffin.
Looks like the overly-literal translations are still in there, though:
Looks like the overly-literal translations are still in there, though:
A Dead Diehard
Member
Dude, study for your exams. Seriously.Honestly, knowing that I'll probably either mess up some exams (due to skipping study) and play it early; or leave it to after exams and play it during summer somehow, my hype is deflated quite a bit.
Unless you're in high school, then fuck it.
Son Of Sparda
Member
lolDude, study for your exams. Seriously.
Unless you're in high school, then fuck it.
They should still study for their exams. Didn't Persona 4 thought you guys anything?
Mediking
Member
Honestly, knowing that I'll probably either mess up some exams (due to skipping study) and play it early; or leave it to after exams and play it during summer somehow, my hype is deflated quite a bit.
Trailer didn't do much for me, I guess it's about time I go on a blackout- I was annoyed that there was new footage (of Persona awakening scenes, etc.) in there lol. Did like the transitions, though.
I'm in my senior year of college and my study habits havent changed at all. I stay play games when I whenever I should be studying. Its super risky though. But juggling work and college is stressful so I need my games.
Oh wow I can't wait until I see what people think of the English version!
As expected from you? Yuck. Who the hell did they have translating it?
As expected from you? Yuck. Who the hell did they have translating it?
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Deleted member 518609
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I still hate that steelbook. The artwork is great, but it wasn't designed for two sides of a cover like that, and looks really tacky. It just seems misleading and silly to have Ryuji, Futaba, and Haru on the front cover, and Makoto, Anne, and Goro on the back. Why design a cover that only looks good when you open it and lay it flat? Nobody will ever do that.
It worked way better in the box for the 20th Anniversary Edition. Speaking of, the box for the TYH version also looks pretty awful and could've benefitted from that art.
Funyarinpa
Member
Dude, study for your exams. Seriously.
Unless you're in high school, then fuck it.
lol
They should still study for their exams. Didn't Persona 4 thought you guys anything?
Persona 4 was the only time in my high school life when I actually studied hard and was successful in exams. It was one of the most emotionally satisfying aspects of the game to me.
Think I had Knowledge maxed out right after the first exams...I'm in high school, but it's one of the country's best and everyone, including myself, expects great things from me. So lazing around is not much of an option...
I feel that I'll inevitably become this.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
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These DLC prices are crazy. If you want all these costumes, or rather skins and Personas.
You easily pay 68 $.
And those aren't even all costumes, I crossed out which are revealed now. They basically release 9 costume packs now and the other 9 after may 2nd.
And it leaves 5 Persona packs.
You will pay more than 130 $ for every DLC.
You easily pay 68 $.
And those aren't even all costumes, I crossed out which are revealed now. They basically release 9 costume packs now and the other 9 after may 2nd.
And it leaves 5 Persona packs.
You will pay more than 130 $ for every DLC.
Considering they got people to read these lines aloud and didn't notice anything weird, it almost feels like it was done by ex-NISA people. Wonder if it can top Danganronpa 2's rushjob, though.
Yeah, I only needed to see the mock-up to know I only wanted the regular box.
lol
They should still study for their exams. Didn't Persona 4 thought you guys anything?
Instead of studying for my AP exams senior year I started to play Persona 3 cause it was recommended to me. Best choice ever.
What's wrong with it?
I wonder if Nich worked on BotW at all. The game's dialogue choices are top-notch and a lot of them remind me of P4's snappiness. Link can be a little prick sometimes and it's great.
Part of what made P4 so incredibly endearing was definitely the localization. While the game naturally had charm through its original japanese version, you could tell the translators added pep and character where necessary. Definitely think that's one of the main reasons Giant Bomb fell in love with it.
Part of what made P4 so incredibly endearing was definitely the localization. While the game naturally had charm through its original japanese version, you could tell the translators added pep and character where necessary. Definitely think that's one of the main reasons Giant Bomb fell in love with it.
I'm just floored by the fact that one person made such a difference. I could feel his influence in Fire Emblem: Fates as well, which is just insane.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Eh, the practice of Atlus' exorbitant DLC pricing was likely to continue - hopefully we get some form of a bundle after a while.
But I'm admittedly a bit out of the loop - how are the DLC persona busted enough to be equivalent to SMTIV's 'cheat' DLC? Just that their stats are so strong?
But I'm admittedly a bit out of the loop - how are the DLC persona busted enough to be equivalent to SMTIV's 'cheat' DLC? Just that their stats are so strong?
Maybe I'm off-base, but literally the only time I've ever seen that phrase used is in Japanese fan translations. It's the most literal translation of さすが you can get, when something like "You did it, Joker!" or "Way to go!" would've sounded more natural.
It's basically on the level of しょうがない for phrases that are super common in Japanese, but sound weird in English when translated literally, especially when they're translated the same way every time.
I just looked the credits up, and yeah, he worked on it as a localizer.
This,
And JFC more than $100 in DLC if they release all the DLC japan has with those prices , fuck them really.
I really gonna spend like $20 in a couple of costumes pack or something.
Oh absolutely
It's just... when you can feel a particular person's style, that's gotta mean something
Mediking
Member
These DLC prices are crazy. If you want all these costumes, or rather skins and Personas.
You easily pay 68 $.
And those aren't even all costumes, I crossed out which are revealed now. They basically release 9 costume packs now and the other 9 after may 2nd.
And it leaves 5 Persona packs.
You will pay more than 130 $ for every DLC.
Go ahead and call me a money spending fool.
Buying ALL the costumes.
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Deleted member 518609
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Of the costumes that aren't crossed out, only the SMT if and Arena ones should be paid. There's absolutely no way they'll get away with making people pay for the Everyday outfits, since they're literally content in the base game. I do wonder why those haven't been listed, maybe they decided to just include them in the base game rather than have them as free DLC?
The christmas costumes and maid/butler ones should be free too, since they were in Japan. Hopefully...
KoroEunectes
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Cannon_Fodder
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It can't be helped; as expected of someone living a normal school life! But if we work hard, everything will be 大丈夫!
On a more serious note though, this is a good example of what a difference a good localization can bring. People like Nich or Brittany from Xseed (loc editor from Trails of Cold Steel) are great examples of bringing a lot of personality to a script, and the games being much better of for it. I think it's a shame that P5 went the overly literal route, but it is what it is, so I'll just enjoy it as much as I can. I don't think it's localization will be one of it's strongest points like in P4, and I certainly don't think it will set a new gold standard for Atlus USA, but it could have always been worse.
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Deleted member 518609
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The "as expected" line is probably not voiced. Most all of the brief in-dungeon stuff is unvoiced, excepting story scenes. I wouldn't be surprised if given the sheer amount of dialogue in the game, they did fewer editing passes on lines like these since they're pretty insignificant.
That said, there are still a bunch of really stiff sounding voiced lines in the mix, so it's tough to say what's going on for sure. I wouldn't say the root of the problem is a literal translation though, since while a number of these lines sound like the result of a literal translation, a good number of them are just badly written. Lines that don't need to be edited or reworked, since their literal translation sounds perfectly natural are getting changes that make them sound even more stiff, like the "subservient puppet" line, which isn't even close to the original one, yet stilted nonetheless. And then lines that sound really stiff aren't being changed at all to sound more natural, and some aren't just being translated literally - they're being written in the most absurd of ways, like "are you really a bad person as the rumor says?" You can translate that line in a fairly literal way and not have it sound as stilted as that.
On an unrelated note to that, all the talk of P5 has made me start another playthrough on it, and you guys, this game is really fucking good. I forgot how good it was.
A Dead Diehard
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A team's only as good as the sum of its parts.
Mediking
Member
!!!! Oh, yeah. I am accumulating Persona 5 fanart for that Persona 5 fanart thread I mentioned earlier that will go live a week or so before the OT releases. I am grabbing Persona 5 from many places... even from very talented Persona GAF members. SO.... if there's a certain piece of art you want in the thread... lemme know. Then again... you could literally post it in the thread when it goes live so... lol.
I genuinely thought this is what it was going to be.
A Dead Diehard
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That's the thing.
If the translation's going to be a mess either way, might as well give the dub VAs a fair shake.
There's sure to be some clunkers, but c'est la vie.
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Deleted member 518609
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I don't know. I'd say that the literally translated lines will be far more noticeably stiff when actually read out by the English VA than just serving as subtitles for the Japanese.
I can vouch for the quality of the Japanese VA, and sincerely doubt an inconsistent translation is going to take away from that. The English one really isn't looking too hot in comparison. If I were to recommend one, it'd be the Japanese for sure at this rate.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Are the Persona DLC separate? I only want Marie's, Yu's and Mokoto's.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I really like Mokoto and Hifumi's VA's (for obvious reasons) and the P5MC VA has grown on me. Just need to hear it more.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
You must be me cause I'm doing the same. We'll both be fools. Atlus got us by our wallets, lol.
Damn, that would have been an amazing design for the steelbook.
I'd definitely regret blowing an exam way more than I would ever regret not playing a game at launch.
Try setting up a rewards system, certain amount of hours of studying = one hour of playtime?
Bayonetta 2 was my go-to game during my senior year + having 2 jobs. Perfect game to rewind with. 😏
klabautermann
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Nope, only come in packs that include the costumes for all party members.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
God....So I'll have to buy the Persona 3 and 4 packs then.
I'm a firm believer that most localizations should try to avoid Japanese stock phrases. There's almost always a better way to translate the dialogue, and no reason to leave them in. It's really jarring when I see them in a professional translation.
A Dead Diehard
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"As expected of you" gave me flashbacks to the last time I saw it:
An Advent Children fansub.
Let that sink in...