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Peter W. Smith, GOP Operative who sought Clinton emails, commits suicide
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Orbis Tabula
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I dunno. My first thought about that was that some people kill themselves by parking their running car in the garage and letting the exhaust fumes do the work. If you wanted a similar sort of peaceful death, and didn't have access to a private garage, this idea wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
I'm willing to take this story at face value, yeah. No reason to expect foul play at this point. I'll let the experts take care of theorizing and investigating.
Condolences to his family.
PingPongvonLaserstein
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I was listening to a Criminal episode where they interviewed an exit guide, and apparently a hood attached to a tank of some inert gas is the suggested standard for suicide.
No. Many have a 2 year clause, meaning that if you commit suicide within 2 years of obtaining the policy, it won't pay out. After that, suicide is fair game.
Source: I have a license to sell life insurance.
Escape Goat
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I could say the same thing about Mickey Mouse. Or Julia Child.
Afaik, helium is an inert gas, and does not provide any depressive effect. Carbon monoxide poisoning works because it knocks you out before it kills you.
Trying to do the same thing would likely provoke a fight or flight response. IMO, it's probably difficult to overcome your basic instincts to kill yourself that way. Just like it's hard to force yourself to drown.
Edit: apparently my backseat guesses were incorrect.
Helium is an exceptionally common means for people into planned death. Look around the internet and you'll find people desperately searching for 100% helium because most balloon tanks are only 80% or something these days
Wait, what?
This article isn't reporting his death. It's reporting that it was a suicide.
Huh, I didn't know that.
Edit: I'm also hope his family doesn't get a dime from insurance. Nothing of value was lost here.
I'm talking about the OP not the article
"Peter W. Smith, GOP Operative who sought Clinton emails, commits suicide"
Compare that to the actual title
"Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide"
michaelius
Banned
It's not really conspiracy theory when multiple people who were not convenient for Putin die murdered or in accident.
And I'm not even talking about America but about cases in Europe in last few years.
Affeinvasion
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Orbis Tabula
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Mammoth Jones
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Depends on the policy. Mine still pays out if it's suicide. Reason I wanted it is I didn't wanna die under questionable circumstances then they try not to pay out.
Does it make your premiums skyrocket?
Yeah, from my understanding a lot of them pay out for suicide after a lengthy waiting period. That's how mine works at least
How could I not?
Haha...I didn't even see it coming; good work.
Oh, okay. I can see how that would be misleading, but I'm not sure that the precise timing of his suicide (May 14th vs. within the past week or so) changes the context enough to really have any misleading implications.
Shadow Puppetry
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At the Hannity hour.
How About No
Member
I think that's honestly a good thing to disclose
But of course it's also inheritantly suspicious at the same time...
Empyrean Heaven
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"His name was Peter Smith"
Skinny Pete
Banned
Well I know what Fox News will be doing for the next month or so.
Thinking about it, I'm really not sure it is; I could understand wanting to go quietly while causing a bare minimum of trouble, and thinking that making it very clear on your note that it was a willing action would make the police's life easier in that regard.
I'm not sure it actually would make the police's life easier, mind, but I can understand thinking it would and that giving you peace of mind.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The Seth Rich conspiracy theory is just bizarre. It depends entirely on Russia not hacking e-mails, which is lol.
Prophaniti
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5 million dollars at stake. Why would you believe it's a "fishy" death? Dude was 81. Had a heart condition. Made his family 5 mil before he died. Seems pretty open and shut.
Yes. Sucking in helium like carbon monoxide is relatively painless and the victim usually just falls passes out first.
Earthbound64
Banned
This.
State regs in Texas cover death by suicide as long as the policy is over 24 months old. Assume most states are similar because of blue sky stuff.
WordAssassin
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Sure but it also feels like a really blatant thing someone killing him would write. It's weird because this totally works both ways - it would make perfect sense for him to really write that given the business he was involved in, but it would also make sense for someone offing him to write that to make it look like it was self-inflicted.
I mean it's because of the legitimacy that it has in the first place, that the conspiracy angle can even stand up. Cause that seems like a really incriminating thing to write on someone you just murdered, but because it makes so much sense for him to actually write it, it's not as hard to believe it's innocent.
I don't know if I'm making sense
Yeah it's easy to see that writing that doesn't make it any easier to believe. If he hadn't written it, it would be just as suspicious.
This method of suicide I've read is the most painless and least messy way to go. People who choose it usually do so out of consideration for the person/people who find the body. Not sure if it's still around (don't want to look), there is a guy who blogged about the method and even told people how to do it, and eventually carried it out on himself.