Chobel
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Ummm, the tweet suggests there's some upscaling involved.
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Phil Spencer on Phantom Dust HD release- "Should ship before E3"
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Ummm, the tweet suggests there's some upscaling involved.
They may be the original assets, just better quality through less compression or higher resolution, presumably they have access to that still.
They could also be replacing certain shaders with more modern ones or implementing improved lighting or particles or whatnot. There is lots that can be done to improve a game beyond just new textures.
I'm assuming, if upscaling is indeed involved, they'll render at the highest resolution possible (without a lot of effort/budget put into it, compared to other remasters/remakes that is) while maintaining 60fps (or lower if the original game ran at a lower one and the game engine has issues running at 60) and then let upscaling handle the rest to get it at 1080p or something.
I'd expect something along the lines of the results PCSX2 gets you for some games. No asset improvements, yet thanks to a higher render resolution, game can still look significantly improved than the original.
If he saw the trailer like he claims, then he probably has no fkn clue the difference between a port and a remake of a game. Also what he talks about crash has nothing to do with the thread, if he didn't like the game is ok, but what he is doing here is shitposting, he probably wasn't even born when crash came out.
I think the entire game has been remade from scratch to represent the game that people played back in the day.
A bit like the Resident Evil Remake on GameCube.
It'll likely be made using the Skylanders engine, as that is what the team generally works with.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right. We know that Code Mystics is working on it and they have experience with emulating games (worked on KI 1 and 2 classic and Rare Replay).
The PS2 games on PS4 are emulated but they still received some improvements to look better than the original. They weren't native 1080p but they also weren't just upscaled either.
So yeah, I would expect something similar to the quality of the emulated PS2 games on PS4.
Samurai G0SU
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Vector image type graphics?
BumblebeeCody
Member
I'm also worried that it's going to end up being crap. I've not played this game and it looks awesome, definitely for me, but I'm worried it'll be a Silent Hill 2 scenario where certain changes will result in the game being inferior. I know there aren't any changes made to the game in the same sense of HD remakes, but in the sense that the emulation of OG Xbox games turn out rubbish, and glitchy and doesn't work on launch. I just wanna experience what everyone else did with any articles along the lines "Beloved Phantum Dust from OG Xbox era on Xbox One is a complete broken mess".
deadscreensky
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Because they also said new default multiplayer decks and they changed the way the multiplayer shop works. Neither of them are large changes, but again they both are changes which points out this isn't just a simple ~360p emulation of the old game.
Which is also what MS seems to be saying now, so I guess you get to create a new narrative. I'm going to stick with my simple "we don't know much yet."
Eh, even if that's the case it doesn't mean they can't fix that. Many games are fixed for 60fps, even by fan hacks.
I'm thinking it wasn't completely tied down, I seem to remember some frame-skipping, but it's admittedly been a long time since I played this on Xbox online. There was also slowdown when physics stuff got too crazy, but that doesn't mean anything since all connected Xboxes would have been slowed down by the same calculations.
I haven't played it myself, but my understanding is that the Grabbed by the Ghoulies port/emulation on X1 is fine. I wouldn't really worry too much about this game being broken in terms of emulation, that seems like a stretch.
Adam Isgreen ‏@Ishmae1
#PhantomDust has 45 achievements, 415 GS is for standard progress through campaign. There's also one hidden (0 GS) achievement!
https://twitter.com/Ishmae1/status/830100248919805952
#PhantomDust has 45 achievements, 415 GS is for standard progress through campaign. There's also one hidden (0 GS) achievement!
https://twitter.com/Ishmae1/status/830100248919805952
guess it's getting closer to release.
Ninja Scooter
Member
So is this essentially on the level of the Ps2 to PS4 releases?
dancrane212
Member
It's see to see this getting pushed out the door without any press ala D4. I know Phantom Dust isn't a huge property by any means but it would be nice at least some effort from MS to promote this re-release.
Sounds like it.
But I don´t know if MS release it now with a March of this AAA-magnitude in front of them ;-)
I wouldn´t expect it before April.
3.4GB sounds about right. It's an Original Xbox game, those DVDs only held 4.7GB.
It looks like Phantom Dust doesn't include any addicional location...just like the original...
http://generacionxbox.com/textos-voces-espanol-phantom-dust/
Spanish web, use the google traslator.
http://generacionxbox.com/textos-voces-espanol-phantom-dust/
Spanish web, use the google traslator.
anothertech
Member
They had to hide it till it was practically finished and use secret internal funding to keep it from getting cancelled or somthing?
What's that all about? Seriously, WTF.
What's that all about? Seriously, WTF.
This is the port.
Hey if you have to deal with hyper-capitalists that only think in the short term? Then yeah, can you blame them? Value Act would otherwise have shut them down in favour of "Office the Game! WHY CAN WE NOT HAVE MORE SERVICES ON THE XBAWKS! That is where the growth is see? Everybody wants Office Online!"
So you have to keep things secret till the last moment and do gambles. As you don't have "Daddy Balmer" to fallback upon anymore. You know the guy that entered as share holders meeting with a Baseball-bat to get them to support the original Xbox?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=77960773&postcount=22
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?513797-Steve-Ballmer-was-the-best-CEO-ever
Do I agree with such aggression? No.. but it is a way to make sure Shareholders leave your staff alone. You gave them the job, if they have a problem with that? They come talk to you! They do not bully your staff in the job you assigned them to do.
But without a person like Ballmer to "hide" behind, you will need to be smart. These people can get you fired on the spot.
So yeah say about Ballmer what you want, he at least was able to stand for his personal. Not like Value Act sell outs that gave MS employees "pink slips for christmas!".
Look it up one of the biggest rounds of "trimming the fat" was just before Christmas! And for what? The company is making a profit, the company is growing? No it was just to kick down, create a bigger short term dividend/return of investment while also making sure that they could hurt the Phone and Hardware department they so hate.
Sorry I just really hate Hedgefund managers. Like Bill Hicks said about Marketeers, Advertising and Economists. Please kill yourself, you add nothing to this world, you hold humanity back, nobody will miss you.... go end it right now.
They are working on the Multiplayer Starter Kit: https://twitter.com/Ishmae1/status/837477569964322816
Jawmuncher
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digita1alchemy
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As long as I can play this online again, I don't give a fuck what it looks like. I'd love to get the same treatment for Phantasy Star Online.
Wow, 16:9?
I can't wait anymore!!!!!!Likewise, on both!
FannyCabbage
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'Should' being the key word here
Same. Would have been nice to play a full remaster but as long as I get to play this again I'm in.