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Philips asking for damages, ban on sale of Wii U due to patent infringements
- Thread starter S¡mon
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Because they filed this patent in 2009 and was rewarded it in 2013.
I'm no lawyer, but I thought you couldn't be issued a patent on an existing item unless you have shown it to be materially different. (I'm assuming that Nintendo has their own sets of patents to draw upon.)
Robot Pants
Member
Hahaha what I was gonna sayIt's not like anyone's buying the console anyway
TheSonofBM
Member
I wonder if the timing of this lawsuit has anything to do with Nintendos recent announcement of the Wii U finally being profitable.
Started thinking about this . . . . does an identity thief just get bills when they steal the identity of a person who is debt?
Started thinking about this . . . . does an identity thief just get bills when they steal the identity of a person who is debt?
Except that they don't make TV's or audio equipment. Companies pay Philips, so they can use their name (for example on a TV)
Philips left the consumer market because the profit on products like TV's and audio equipment is to low. That's why they currently only focus on medical products, led lights and shaving shizzle.
prag16
Banned
Indeed.
Anyway, I doubt there's a whole lot to see here. Though larger-ish companies like Philips aren't usually the main patent trolls we see lurking around.
Can anyone explain to me how I should be viewing the door on the right. Is it opened inwards or outwards? My eyes are confused.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Better not decorate your room like that or Philips coming after your ass.
Its a lot closer to how the Kinect works with Xbox One, except there's no controller for the Kinect to respond to.
This seems to be the patent in question.
Filed in 2009, issued on Sept. 17th, 2013.
Don't really know what to make of it. The patent basically claims that its a universal remote.
I don't know why this was ever accepted. "I want to make a shoe that has the ability to connect with any wireless device ever made! And subsequently, if anyone ever makes a shoe that does the same thing, I want a cut."
Patent law is fucked. Almost as fucked as Copyright law.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Sounds more like the PS Move. The Wii/U doesn't use a camera, does it?
Desperate times for Phillips.
Ingueferroque
Banned
What?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
because
...so not only does the patent not seem applicable to what the wii was doing, it also was filed 2 years after it was released.
LurkerPrime
Member
It has a sensor on the front that interfaces with the sensor bar, doesn't it? Philips would just say "hey its a camera!" or "it's close enough."
NinjaEdit: I'd assume Philips is filing against Nintendo now, while they're down on the ground, in the hopes of getting a quiet settlement to make it go away. /armchair
Edit: Oh my goodness, I wish that no one pointed out that door. It's destroying my perception of everything
spookyfish
Member
Filed in 2009 -- Didn't the Wii come out in 2006?
I don't know about the Wii U, but the Wii basically use a light sensor. And cameras, well, cameras are usually sensors picking up light.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Thank you.
wow thats even more pathetic if true
There's an IR camera in the Wiimote.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
S¡mon;111991129 said:
The Wii and WiiU work in the exact opposite way of this patent; the signal that is transmitted is the 'sensor bar', the 'receiver' (camera by your defintion) is what you hold.
Actually, re-reading the description, the wiimote does generally work the same way as this patent describes, but that's only because of how fucking general the patent is.
"a camera taking a picture, which camera is physically attached to the pointing device" can be equated to the IR sensor.
"at least one localization beacon that emit electromagnetic radiation" is the IR lights (because infrared falls under the EXTREMELY broad label of electromagnetic radiation).
It does, but the patent was apparently filed in 2009 - three years after the Wii launched.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Your eyes are cameras and your hands are pointers. Better pay Philips if you want to live.
That door is fucking nuts...
themagicalkitsune
Member
Are they even fucking serious with this drawing. I can't stop laughing.
It's clearly one of M.C. Escher's lost works.
I was answering a question, not defending Philips.
You can thank the US patent system for being fucked. And the people who awarded that patent to Philips in 2009 becaue they probably didn't check hard enough.
Patents are pretty silly.
I'm sure this will probably get settled though. I don't think there's any real possibility that a ban of Wii U sales occurs. I seem to remember something similar with the Wii remote before, maybe even the DS too. Though Sony did end up taking rumble out of the Dualshock for a while.
I'm sure this will probably get settled though. I don't think there's any real possibility that a ban of Wii U sales occurs. I seem to remember something similar with the Wii remote before, maybe even the DS too. Though Sony did end up taking rumble out of the Dualshock for a while.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Yeah, there's no way in hell this doesn't get covered by prior art, or by nintendos own wii-related patents.
It seems like the patent actually wants to cover something like one of those air-mouse tv remotes.
It seems like the patent actually wants to cover something like one of those air-mouse tv remotes.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I know you weren't. It was just a jab at how silly this situation is.
After seeing some incredibly vague patents out there, I'm thinking of patenting the following idea:
*Electronic device that has some sort of function. Powered by electricity provided by some kind of battery. It may or may not have blinking lights in it. Can be used with one hand, or both. The device provides functionality of some kind.
brb, I'm becoming a billionaire.
*Electronic device that has some sort of function. Powered by electricity provided by some kind of battery. It may or may not have blinking lights in it. Can be used with one hand, or both. The device provides functionality of some kind.
brb, I'm becoming a billionaire.
This seems to be the patent in question.
Filed in 2009, issued on Sept. 17th, 2013.
Don't really know what to make of it. The patent basically claims that its a universal remote.
Filed three years AFTER Wii released?
Fuck off Phillips.
Fine. I was about to sue our ass, though.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Think bigger man. Patent breathing. People have to pay you if they want to live.
This seems to be the patent in question.
Filed in 2009, issued on Sept. 17th, 2013.
Don't really know what to make of it. The patent basically claims that its a universal remote.
The perspective on that Escher doorway on the right hand side is doing bad things to my eyes and brain. And why does that woman (?) in the foreground appear to be melting? I mean, I know these diagrams just have to be functional and not particularly pretty, but I'm sure they could've found someone on staff who uses their hands to draw instead of holding the pen between their toes.
ShockingAlberto
Member
The wiimote is the camera.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Not if I sue you first!
Thats how this works right?
Why not go even higher and patent the idea of a "living organism". Basically every person, dog, cat and whatever what breaths and shits in this planet would have to pay up.
Companies are already patenting DNA sequences, so we're halfway there now.