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Playstation Plus Premium Service announced [S-CONF]
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SolidSnakex
Member
:lol This will probably sell more PSN+ accounts than the stuff that they're giving away.
DMPrince said:
Oh and spending many hours downloading full ps3 games only to play 1 hour is silly :lol.
As I've said before, I REALLY doubt we are going to be downloading the whole game. I have a feeling we will only be allowed to download Darksiders (which was a hour)- sized demos of retail games. Yea, I was talking to a friend yesterday about this- how is SONY going to gauge how much we can get done in a game in a hour (especially trophy hunters?) but I bet that is what it will be- a large file size demo that takes "roughly" an hour for the casual gamer to play.
Dead Prince
Banned
well from the previous post the games will be made to purchase on the store. so it's possible that it's the full game. i mean they are selecting the game for us. and how big is infamous 1 anyways. like 7GB? i assume these games will stay under 10GB.netguy503 said:
yencid said:
loudninja said:
Well I guess it's not too bad if you don't have most of that stuff, say you only just got the PS3 or something. Personally I don't care for avatars and themes and I already have LBP and Wipeout (as most PS3 owners should), and several of those minis. The PS1 games are nothing special. Push downloads of demos that I'm sure 90% of PS3 owners have already played? No thanks. And the discounts are pretty funny, for instance I'm sure Gravity Crash was on sale for around 50% of its usual cost not too long ago.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Am I reading this wrong or is LBP and inFamous coming to PS3 as DD?
netguy503 said:
You definitely download the full game in the trial (with DRM giving exactly 1 hour of play) and the purchase will just be a 100kB unlock. However they said for LBP at least they have stripped out some of the localised audio to make the file smaller. So the version on the UK store will only have English language, German store only German etc. I'll see if I can find the quote.
Withnail said:
And again your only looking at the first two months of a new service. How can you possibly judge from that and/or who said it won't expand and grow especially when the money/support comes in from the community? I'm sure the money they get will allow them to pay off developers and we'll get even better deals but in order to do that they need support from us like XBL. %20-%50 percent off items are not bad for the average non-GAF gamer and, from what I understand, what you buy on this service you keep and it's only the free things that go away.
Also I'm still wondering will everyone get to use this as part of the "free 3 month trial" starting Tuesday regardless if you've subscribed or what?
SolidusDave
Member
Selecting the content for the users is bascially necessary. If they just let you choose 4 games for free as well as the discounts each month, the service would probably not be profitable for them as no one needs to buy games (at full price) and other PSN stuff anymore.
They want you to offer content worth $200, not giving you $200 for your $50, would be kinda stupid, eh?
I won't bite though as I already own or have played the games (including the trial ones), including most of the DLC/PSN stuff they offer.
I tend not to play my PSone games and I don't care at all about Minis.
Automatic downloading alone is not worth it for me, my games are currently all up to date anyway (damn you ODC). Guess they have to make CGC a PSN+ feature
Maybe I'll get the 3 month offer when there is a nice month content-wise for me. Plus betas etc.
btw I don't really like the =$ conversion:
50 is quite much. I know they are mimicking the Live Gold prices, but on the 360 you can buy Gold tickets for cheap, but there will never be PSN cards as cheap because they are the actual funds you buy games with etc.
They want you to offer content worth $200, not giving you $200 for your $50, would be kinda stupid, eh?
I won't bite though as I already own or have played the games (including the trial ones), including most of the DLC/PSN stuff they offer.
I tend not to play my PSone games and I don't care at all about Minis.
Automatic downloading alone is not worth it for me, my games are currently all up to date anyway (damn you ODC). Guess they have to make CGC a PSN+ feature
Maybe I'll get the 3 month offer when there is a nice month content-wise for me. Plus betas etc.
btw I don't really like the =$ conversion:
50 is quite much. I know they are mimicking the Live Gold prices, but on the 360 you can buy Gold tickets for cheap, but there will never be PSN cards as cheap because they are the actual funds you buy games with etc.
netguy503 said:
Fair enough, like I said it's not a bad deal if you don't already have that stuff and I'm not saying I will never subscribe, but after seeing that list I definitely won't be doing so in the first two months.
Regarding the "free 3 month trial" thing, I think what they actually meant was 15 months for the price of 12, but could be wrong about that.
Is the US playstation blog going to update anytime soon?
I don't have a ton of PSN content ( I think I have 9 or 10 PSN games), so I'm actually interested in all the freebies. Too bad I bought Wipeout HD a couple months ago though. :lol Although a discount on the Fury pack will definitely be nice.
Not to be a downer on the discounts, but I hope most of them are more than 20%. That seems a bit weak when you are paying a yearly fee for a service. 50% is fine. Hopefully Sony doesn't shift all their regular weekly discounts onto Playstation Plus.
I don't have a ton of PSN content ( I think I have 9 or 10 PSN games), so I'm actually interested in all the freebies. Too bad I bought Wipeout HD a couple months ago though. :lol Although a discount on the Fury pack will definitely be nice.
Not to be a downer on the discounts, but I hope most of them are more than 20%. That seems a bit weak when you are paying a yearly fee for a service. 50% is fine. Hopefully Sony doesn't shift all their regular weekly discounts onto Playstation Plus.
nah you are correct 15 for the price of 12Withnail said:Fair enough, like I said it's not a bad deal if you don't already have that stuff and I'm not saying I will never subscribe, but after seeing that list I definitely won't be doing so in the first two months.
Regarding the "free 3 month trial" thing, I think what they actually meant was 15 months for the price of 12, but could be wrong about that.
Dabanton said:
Full Game Trial: Shatter, Savage Moon
Full Game Trial: inFamous, Mushroom Wars
Sony ones bolded.
What sucks about this is that these games wont have the trial forever but just for a month. So, say you get a PS3 3 months for now, and subscribe to PSN+, you wont be able to check these games out. AFAIK
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Dabanton said:
infamous wasn't developed by sony, so perhaps we're getting sony developed and published titles on DD.
Haven't seen anyone talk about this, but I'm psyched, always thought LBP should be a downloadable game!
"If you sign up between the 29th June and 3rd Aug for the 1 year subscription then you will also receive a downloadable copy of the original LittleBigPlanet game for PS3, completely free! This is yours to keep and is not tied to the period of subscription."
Sick.
"If you sign up between the 29th June and 3rd Aug for the 1 year subscription then you will also receive a downloadable copy of the original LittleBigPlanet game for PS3, completely free! This is yours to keep and is not tied to the period of subscription."
Sick.
SolidSnakex
Member
Mrbob said:
Jeff said that they were putting together a FAQ for PSN+, so it could be up anytime now.
Dragnet said:
Yeah that is pretty hot for Europe. If Sony is going to be putting their games onto PSN soon for purchase, they should think about offering a choice of greatest hits titles (separate to keep from PSN plus)as a bonus for yearly resubs. Greatest Hits games have made their money back, and it would be good PR. It would definitely increase subs and retentions.
Goldrusher
Member
And in a way, WipEout and PAIN.yencid said:
in general the extra money that sony gets from PSN+ will help everyone, just keeping servers alive without getting any money in return must have cost them a hella lot so this will help them.Oni Jazar said:Ahhh that explains it.
And yes I knew about those other "full" PSN games but it's good to have more options.
AmericanNinja
Banned
I will be subscribing.
AranhaHunter
Banned
AndyD said:
I think the chances of having a PSTwo classics section on PSN only available to PSN+ subscribers is very low.
TTP said:
Didn't you respond to me in another thread (or this one) that turning on and off your machine wasn't dangerous to your system it was the downloading that must effects it. If it is a full game, as a YLOD survivor, downloading a 7GB game doesn't sound fun for me. Not only would it take alot of time but having my machine on for that amount of time would make me extremely nervous. I bet alot of people would feel the same way. I don't know if SONY wants to go that route. I guess we will see on Tuesday. And you have no problem deleting those big files only to re-download them if you want them again? I dunno, doesn't sound like my cup of tea IMHO.
I just hope this "automatic downloading" applies to old games as well. I may FINALLY be able to re-update my Burnout Paradise after my YLOD and get my Platnium (I've been like two trophies away from it for almost a year now as my game keeps refuse to sit through the update).
I also think it would be a cool practice if monthly plus freebies come with the option to buy it at a discounted price. It could increase PSN sales.
Imagine if Age of Zombies (a freebie on plus first month) is offered to plus members at 50 percent off for the month. That would convince me to keep the mini outside of the plus account, and get the developer more money in their pocket in the process.
Imagine if Age of Zombies (a freebie on plus first month) is offered to plus members at 50 percent off for the month. That would convince me to keep the mini outside of the plus account, and get the developer more money in their pocket in the process.
BomberMouse
Member
That lineup looks awful, I already have all of those titles :/, but to have LBP on my HDD is very tempting.
I think I'd hold on buying some psn games (ToMI, S&M, Creat stuff) and wait for them on PSN+, then I'll bite.
I think I'd hold on buying some psn games (ToMI, S&M, Creat stuff) and wait for them on PSN+, then I'll bite.
Question (sorry if this has been answered):
I live in germany and have a german ps3 but my main psn account is set to the US. I buy all my psn stuff from the US psn store so do i have to buy psn+ on my german psn account, (which has 0 friends / trophies etc) or can I buy psn+ on the US store like everything else?
I live in germany and have a german ps3 but my main psn account is set to the US. I buy all my psn stuff from the US psn store so do i have to buy psn+ on my german psn account, (which has 0 friends / trophies etc) or can I buy psn+ on the US store like everything else?
netguy503 said:
I don't understand your reasoning.
1 - It depends on the connection speed you've got. I can download 7GB easily overnight (setting the PS3 to turn off automatically when done)
2 - I've played games for sessions longer than the amount of time needed to download 7GB of content. And THAT is MUCH more "dangerous" to the system than downloading stuff.
3 - You can pause downloads if you want to play something or turn the system off altogether if you are too nervous about keeping it on. Or have the DL going in the background if game allows it. You know the PS3 can resume downloads right?
4 - Yes, I have no problem re-downloading games I want to play again. It's not like I would ever want to re-play a game "OMG RIGHT NOW!!1". Say I've got the digital version of Uncharted 2, a game which I'm not currently playing. Then Naughty Dog announces some kind of cool DLC coming up. At that point, I can easily start the download and leave it there growing in the download list for as many days as I want until the DLC actually comes out.
I don't understand why you are so scared about downloading stuff. As I said, downloading stuff doesn't heat up the system nearly as much as playing games on it.
Besides, having games running from HDD >>>>>> having them running from the disc (less stressed BD drive)