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[Basileus777]

The GOP's plan is turning out basically perfectly except for their inability to pass any legislation.

And under Pence they probably get a second chance.

I don't think any of this is part of some master plan. They didn't expect Trump to win, they didn't expect him to be this incompetent and corrupt, they didn't expect McConnell to fail so badly, and they certainly don't have some grand plan for Pence becoming president.

 

[RumbleHumble]

He's running

He'll distance himself as much as possible. It's so perfect how he's been able to keep his name out of all the Trump gossip.

 

[whyamihere]

Is it 2020 yet

 

[B-Dubs]

Is it 2020 yet

Three more years. Better grit those teeth.

 

[CreepingFear]

Is it 2018 yet

Fixed. Every election counts.

 

[Wilsongt]

I hope trump had his tv tuned in




And lolololol

What happened in NYC yesterday? Did some brown people do something?

 

[Schucky Ducky]

He's running

I definitely think he will. I could also see Ted Cruz trying to primary Trump given his statement.

 

[whyamihere]

Fixed. Every election counts.

If anyone is keeping meticulous track of every single election it's me

 

[Teggy]

Who is that? Amazing.

A grad student/photographer in NYC.


Yes, this THAT Godwin

Mike Godwin
Mike Godwin @sfmnemonic
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.
8:03 PM · Aug 13, 2017

 

[neurosisxeno]

I'd settle for it getting a simple web browser.

God. It's a game device. Don't you have like 8 other devices you could browse the internet, listen to music, use streaming services, and voice chat on? Why does everything need to do everything?

Spoiler

/s

 

[skullmuffins]

What happened in NYC yesterday? Did some brown people do something?

Charlottesville solidarity rally that led to protests at Trump Tower. Some people crossed the police line and were arrested.

edit: here's the twitter thread https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/896832897096744960

 

[Zolo]

If Trump were to get primaried in 2020, would he be the first president to get primaried before a full 8 years?

 

[pigeon]

I don't think any of this is part of some master plan.

I don't think I'd call it a master plan, but I think it's pretty clear that Pence's job in all this was to be the understudy in the event that Trump imploded, so that the GOP can try to rehabilitate its image under him.

Kind of an emergency backup.

 

[pigeon]

If Trump were to get primaried in 2020, would he be the first president to get primaried before a full 8 years?

Ted Kennedy primaried Carter.

 

[Loxley]

He's running

He's definitely planting seeds, if for no other reason right now than as a contingency plan for 2020 if Trump ain't president anymore.

Dude has more or less been pretty good at avoiding any personal controversy so far, which will certainly help him if he does run in 2020.

 

[Makai]

If Trump were to get primaried in 2020, would he be the first president to get primaried before a full 8 years?

Reagan primaried Ford

 

[whyamihere]

Ted Kennedy primaried Carter.

You could also count Buchanan in 92 but Kennedy actually won 12 states.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

If Trump were to get primaried in 2020, would he be the first president to get primaried before a full 8 years?

Ted Kennedy primaried Carter.

Reagan primaried Ford

.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

He's definitely planting seeds, if for no other reason right now than as a contingency plan for 2020 if Trump ain't president anymore.

Dude has more or less been pretty good at avoiding any personal controversy so far, which will certainly help him if he does run in 2020.

He lied about Flynn but with trump screwing up so badly nobody talks about it.

 

[Basileus777]

I don't think I'd call it a master plan, but I think it's pretty clear that Pence's job in all this was to be the understudy in the event that Trump imploded, so that the GOP can try to rehabilitate its image under him.

Kind of an emergency backup.

Perhaps, but this is probably driven by Pence himself, not some larger plan of the GOP.

Ted Kennedy primaried Carter.

And Reagan primaried Ford.

 

[Valhelm]

Who would primary Trump?

 

[Tranqueris]

Jesus, I leave the country for a week and now I'm so far behind on this nightmare drama that is our lives.

 

[Ithil]

Steven Miller IS AN AMERICAN!!!!

Mr. "the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned". He's a authoritarian and you must conform to his one ideology/tribe.

Evidently he failed to pay very much attention to the central message of Star Trek.

 

[NewLib]

Who would primary Trump?

Kasich most likely.

 

[skullmuffins]

Who would primary Trump?

Kasich?

McMullin maybe?

There are some who would/could try. Successfully primarying Trump is a different matter.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Who would primary Trump?

Kasich for sure

 

[Basileus777]

Pence can't primary Trump without looking like a backstabber, he needs Trump to step down or not run.

 

[Box of Kittens]

The cases mentioned above were the most successful primary challenges in the modern era of presidential primaries. There were cases of a sitting president seeking the nomination and failing back in the convention era.

 

[Basileus777]

The cases mentioned above were the most successful primary challenges in the modern era of presidential primaries. There were cases of a sitting president seeking the nomination and failing back in the convention era.

Primaries didn't exist then, it's like comparing it to an entirely different political system.

 

[Plinko]

Pence can't primary Trump without looking like a backstabber, he needs Trump to step down or not run.

Yep. Pence couldn't beat Trump in a primary without Trump's base.

 

[sangreal]

wrong thread

 

[Box of Kittens]

Primaries didn't exist then, it's like comparing it to an entirely different political system.

K

 

[Ecotic]

Rubio appears unhappy with Trump. He reneged on his pledge just so he could express displeasure against him for four years and have another shot in 2020 if Trump is still in the low 30's or worse starting in the primary season.

 

[Valhelm]

Pence can't primary Trump without looking like a backstabber, he needs Trump to step down or not run.

Any Republican would be seen as a backstabber.

There's a real good chance somebody primaries Trump, but Republicans are so cowardly I don't know if they'll try very hard.

 

[UberTag]

Jesus, I leave the country for a week and now I'm so far behind on this nightmare drama that is our lives.

This is what happens when you align your vacation schedule with Trump's.
Apparently we get no respite from the chaos that his administration has wrought upon the world.

 

[Basileus777]

Rubio appears unhappy with Trump. He reneged on his pledge just so he could express displeasure against him for four years and have another shot in 2020 if Trump is still in the low 30's or worse starting in the primary season.

I doubt he has the guts for that. It's more like a Senator from Florida doesn't want to be tied to neo-nazism.

K

I didn't mean to be aggressive with that, if that's how it came across.

 

[Box of Kittens]

The dilemma they have is how to ditch Trump when they're dependent on Trump's base.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

LBJ was also primaried and dropped out of the primary after winning New Hampshire (I think) by a smaller than expected margin, which would make it the most successful primary of a sitting president

 

[woodland]

Whoops

Sorry wrong thread ignore that

 

[Mike M]

If Trump were to get primaried in 2020, would he be the first president to get primaried before a full 8 years?

How do you primary a president after a full 8 years?

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Who would primary Trump?

Kasich is definitely going to try.

Primaries didn't exist then, it's like comparing it to an entirely different political system.

Not really relevant to the attempt, only its failure or success. The ultimate message of "our president can't be trusted to be the de facto nominee" is there in any system.

 

[Basileus777]

How do you primary a president after a full 8 years?

Ask Truman. He withdrew after a NH loss despite being POTUS for 8 years.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

If the GOP loses bigly in 2018 Trump will be primaried for sure

 

[Teggy]

My man

Randy Bryce @IronStache
What's % of nazis in America?
@realDonaldTrump's rating is about to go from current 38% to whatever that number is.
@GOP -own him with pride
9:00 PM · Aug 13, 2017

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

My man

I can't help but feel there won't be a major change in numbers

 

[neurosisxeno]

My man

Savage.

 

[Valhelm]

I don't know how it will affect his approval ratings, but Trump's refusal to condemn white supremacy is going to haunt him

 

[Ithil]

A point raised that should be repeated any time someone says "he condemned all of the violence", Trump is always very specific when he is condemning people. He does it by name, nor matter how petty.
Here, nothing. A non-answer.

 

[Basileus777]

I can't help but feel there won't be a major change in numbers

There probably won't be. Hell the press isn't even reporting on this very well. The local Sunday Paper in fricken North NJ wrote all its articles in really vague language that made it unclear on the basic facts like how there was a Nazi rally and a counter protester was murdered.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't think people understand neo-Nazis are a real thing. It's like a bogeyman for most people. How could they really exist? Makes it easy to (uh) whitewash.