Devs can't win either way
Er, what?
I think you misunderstood the article. It's arguing that minorities aren't featured enough and just reduced to a checkmark. Something which is of course impossible to say since the game isn't out yet.The whole "forced diversity", "diversity for marketing", and "virtue signaling" thing is gamergate language.
I think you misunderstood the article. It's arguing that minorities aren't featured enough and just reduced to a checkmark. Something which is of course impossible to say since the game isn't out yet.
I'm not sure I'd see people on KiA arguing for more minority involvement. The polygon article is more in line with some of the responses after force awakens was releasedIf you would have copy pasted the article and put it in KiA, I wouldn't have known the difference apart from a few terms. ¯_(ツ_/ ¯
Maybe it's just polygon being tone deaf, but that's not an excuse.
From SolidSnakex in the other thread:
Simply epic.
This reads a lot like that article on Lucio before Overwatch came out. Incredible, poorly justified levels of snark all over again. Never been to Polygon since until reading the article in the OP. EDIT: Huh, same writer. Colour me not surprised.
I don't understand how their video content can be so good and their website such trash.
But I think everyone understands that's the way things are.
Like, are there particular examples you have in mind? Because isn't the whole point about diversity and representation that these things are normal etc? I mean you say they don't care about it but you literally have no proof of that : /
Something like Overwatch wasn't created as "Let's be super diverse" but more of a "So, we have many different nationalities, genders and sexualities among the dev team at Blizz and the game is set on Earth so...why don't we reflect that?".
I'm not sure I'd see people on KiA arguing for more minority involvement. The polygon article is more in line with some of the responses after force awakens was released
http://www.indiewire.com/2015/12/hyper-tokenism-the-force-awakens-while-the-black-man-sleeps-162287/
That's part of the problem with having games set in historical settings. Deviating too far from history can become an issue. However, I have't played the game yet so I will reserve judgement.
Nick Robinson, Tara Long, Simone De Rochefort, Griffin McElroy and Russ Frushtick are good. Nick and Tara were the remnants of Rev3.
From SolidSnakex in the other thread:
Simply epic.
How do you fuck that up? It's not even like he's some random low level employee in which case they may hav some sort of a point. He's a fucking director. How do you miss that?
The Polygon article is arguing that diversity is "marketing", which is an argument KiA is definitely fond of: "Devs are forcing diversity for marketing points". It's not masked by the same vitrol as KiA, which is why I called it tone deaf.
On this point they were talking about the people on stage, not in promo videos. The hosts and guests were 100% white.From SolidSnakex in the other thread:
Why not feature the 442nd? A highly decorated infantry regiment made up of Japanese-Americans (mostly from Hawaii) who fought for a country that was also interning people who had the same background. To me that just seems ripe for great story telling, although not what I would expect from COD.
Except Polygon were asking the team to do more than checkboxing, KiA don't want any diversity at all. Very different.
On this point they were talking about the people on stage, not in promo videos. The hosts and guests were 100% white.
On this point they were talking about the people on stage, not in promo videos. The hosts and guests were 100% white.
yes, diversity sells (look at fast & furious)
All mentioned actually belong to Caucasian race.Then there are the Turks, who span a number races given their location. Then there are the Arabs in North Africa...
Schrödinger's cat;234874615 said:If I'm outraged by the incompetence in constructing an article purposefully aimed at eliciting outrage..
..did the article still succeed?
Seems like you just can't ever win this war. If you say the cast is all white males, it's not diverse enough. If you say you have a multi cultural race/gender representation it's considered "forced" or marketing. If you don't mention anything it's because you are trying to hide something.
What's a business to do in this case Polygon?
CoD had a russian campaign at one point. Stalingrad mission was pretty glorious at the time and you'll play from that point until you actually reach Berlin.Diversity in a WWII game would be having Russia, Parts of Scandinavia, Central and Eastern Europe, Africa & their peoples etc as focal points of their games and not the usual US UK character and Normandy landing level.
Ohhhh shutup polygon. The game director for sledgehammer is blck. I might understand this article if we had played the game and seen the content, but this was a reveal. Just being outraged for the sake of being outraged.
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All mentioned actually belong to Caucasian race.