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[Miles Quaritch]

Like the recently announced PlayStation 4, the still-unnamed next Xbox will include the ability to capture video highlights of gameplay and then share them through networks like Facebook and Ustream.

I'd have thought Twitch would be the default streaming site MS would use.

Microsoft is also trying to come up with a system for video sharing though all of the details are still being locked down. According to our sources, currently the next Xbox will capture your gameplay as if it were a DVR, allowing you to go back and select highlights. That function can be turned on or off, or a player can set up the console to automatically capture a recording when certain in-game events occur, like a headshot or collecting a specific achievement. Auto capturing those "magic moments" will be a feature only available on next-gen games.

Those videos can then be uploaded directly from the console to social sites, like YouTube, for sharing.

Not unexpected, I've wanted this for years.

Sources tell Polygon that the next Xbox will indeed have some form of an always-on requirement. That will be both to support the suite of non-gaming entertainment applications that will be launched alongside the console, like streaming video services, but also as a possible anti-piracy tool. Currently, the console will support digital rights management and anti-piracy checks using an internet connection. Under Microsoft's current guidelines, which may still be changed, the decision of whether a game will require an internet connection to work and if that is a one-time authentication or a constant connection, will be left up to individual publishers.

Interesting.

The fact that offline gameplay, always online and one-time checks are supported, means that in the future, publishers will have much greater control over copyright protection for their games.

Hmm, this gives too much control to publishers. Not sure about this.

The next-generation Live won't have a cap on the number of friends a person can have. The way players add friends will also change. Now instead of it being a two-way friendship only, people can choose to follow one another, sort of like Twitter.

Finally, more more caps.

 

[statham]

Some quotes would be nice.

done!

 

[BibiMaghoo]

The next Xbox will allow publishers to decide if their games should require an internet connection to be played.

So the same as Sony then. It all makes perfect sense now.

 

[TheOddOne]

Some of those features sound pretty sweet.

 

[Mik_Pad]

I would imagine many peoples workplaces block game sites.

Good point, I'm so used at using my own internet connection at work. sorry lol.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Next-gen achievements can also be tied to broader events, like a weekend challenge or a communal goal, like contributing a set number of kills to the bigger goal of 10,000 kills over one weekend.

This is going to brutalize people who crave full completion.

 

[Mithos]

The next Xbox will allow publishers to decide if their games should require an internet connection to be played.

So buy or no buy are going to be easy for XboxNext games, sweet. ;p

 

[SaggyMonkey]

oh cool, inside source. that's my favorite source.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Oh, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying it isn't. I think it's fantastic and it's interesting that when Nintendo (attempted) to go the online route that they did it in their own unique way.

I absolutely love MiiVerse.

Yep Nintendo did good with MiiVerse

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

To be honest it sounds exactly like the ps4. I will remain open to which console I get. I see nothing bad or offensive here at all. In the end the games will be what gets me.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

done!

Thanks.

 

[gaming_noob]

So the same as Sony then. It all makes perfect sense now.

How do I gain back all these lost months of argument over "always online/always connected" if this turns out to be exactly the same as Sony's strategy?

 

[GooeyHeat]

Well, if on both PS4 and next Xbox it's up to the publishers, then I guess my decision goes from "won't buy any console that blocks used games or has always online" to "won't support any publisher that blocks used games or forces online". Same idea, different targets.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Fuck me those achievements are just brutal.

 

[oVerde]

On one hand, good news.

On the other, it's Polygon.

Well, Polygon is so close to MSFT that makes me believe more in their Durango rumours than Kotaku's

ALSO, social media without a keyboard will be just a fuken wasteland. No way anyone could write an achievement guide with on screen keyboard D:

 

[Blue Ninja]

This is going to brutalize people who crave full completion.

Yeah, I think people are gonna have to rethink what they count as having completed a game.

I have to say, most of this stuff doesn't sound too bad. I'm eagerly anticipating the full reveal now.

 

[Hilbert]

This is going to brutalize people who crave full completion.

Maybe I will finally somehow be able to get that "Elected a new president" achievement I have been dreaming about every election day. Or at least a "watched a presidential debate" one if I watch it on Xbox.

 

[dose]

oh cool, inside source. that's my favorite source.

I prefer secret sauce.

 

[Giant Panda]

Their changes to achievements sound pretty bad to be honest.

 

[JordanLMiller]

Achievements won't be scrapped? I hate next gen already.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

This pleases me.
Finally some rumors that make sense.

The idea of following people like Twitter sounds fun.
Now you'll get to see how your high scores compare to game devs without having to add them/accept you. Very cool.

This also establishes what I always thought...
it's up to the publishers, not Microsoft/Sony whether a game has to be always online!

 

[pharmboy044]

It just hit me, if cross gen achievements is true then that maybe confirms BC in Durango?

 

[freddy]

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[JoeFenix]

This is going to brutalize people who crave full completion.

It sounds unbelievably awful, they are going to be treating players like monkeys. They'll make people buy Doritos and play garbage companion apps while forcing them to 'like' on Facebook for a stupid Achievement.

It's such an Xbox thing to do now that I think about it. Consistent with the way they see and treat their customers.

 

[Riggs]

It just hit me, if cross gen achievements is true then that maybe confirms BC in Durango?

Keep hoping bro :'(

 

[AgentP]

The fact that offline gameplay, always online and one-time checks are supported, means that in the future, publishers will have much greater control over copyright protection for their games.

It should be up to the customer. If they are offline, use the disc for DRM, if online, no disc required. I'm guessing the new MS system is more about piracy and for the sole benefit of the publishers.

It just hit me, if cross gen achievements is true then that maybe confirms BC in Durango?

Of course, and my Vita can play PS3 games too!

 

[Deleted member 13876]

Achievements won't be scrapped? I hate next gen already.

Because that was a realistic expectation to have.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

How do I gain back all these lost months of argument over "always online/always connected" if this turns out to be exactly the same as Sony's strategy?

Same with every rumour. Not everyone can believe, not everyone can agree.

Someone is always wrong

 

[Nirolak]

This is going to brutalize people who crave full completion.

Also this other part:

Companies can also create cross-title achievements, like awarding points for finishing the first chapter in two different and unrelated games published by the same company. Some of these bigger, cross-title, communal achievements will be a requirement for all titles.

Want full achievements in BioShock 4? Buy The Darkness 3!

 

[Colonel Nasty]

It sounds unbelievably awful, they are going to be treating players like monkeys. They'll make people buy Doritos and play garbage companion apps while forcing them to 'like' on Facebook for a stupid Achievement.

It's such an Xbox thing to do now that I think about it. Consistent with the way they see and treat their costumers.

You sir, have not seen the wake up club thread.

 

[Riggs]

It sounds unbelievably awful, they are going to be treating players like monkeys. They'll make people buy Doritos and play garbage companion apps while forcing them to 'like' on Facebook for a stupid Achievement.

It's such an Xbox thing to do now that I think about it. Consistent with the way they see and treat their costumers.

Honestly couldn't agree more.

 

[lordfroakie]

"sources tell x feature"
"sources tell x feature might"
"our source also tell"

Thank god MS is finally revealing their new console next month <_<

 

[Nemesis_]

Achievements won't be scrapped? I hate next gen already.

It's almost like you're FORCED to get them!

 

[TheVoidDragon]

I really don't like the idea of event or time specific achievements and ones with a certain requirement that is completely unrelated to the game, i already dislike games with multiplayer achievements as there are a few which i can't get anymore. I'm not obsessed with them but i try to get as many achievements as i can, i get a little annoyed when there is a game i know for sure i will never be able to 100% because of unobtainable achivements.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Maybe I will finally somehow be able to get that "Elected a new president" achievement I have been dreaming about every election day. Or at least a "watched a presidential debate" one if I watch it on Xbox.

OMG "Voted for the winning Presidential Candidate" achievement would be delicious. Permanent mark of pride/shame. Delightful.

 

[Karma]

It should be up to the customer. If they are offline, use the disc for DRM, if online, no disc required. I'm guessing the new MS system is more about piracy and for the sole benefit of the publishers.

The next Sony system too.

 

[twobear]

It sounds unbelievably awful, they are going to be treating players like monkeys. They'll make people buy Doritos and play garbage companion apps while forcing them to 'like' on Facebook for a stupid Achievement.

I'm pretty sure you just straight-up imagined that the article said or even vaguely implied any of that whatsoever.

The playing other games bit sounds pretty dumb, I'll give you that.

Still, you're not forced to do any of these things.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

OMG "Voted for the winning Presidential Candidate" achievement would be delicious. Permanent mark of pride/shame. Delightful.

That's actually pretty good. Friends would be gained and lost. Imagine a republican only playlist?

 

[Mindwipe]

Those videos can then be uploaded directly from the console to social sites, like YouTube, for sharing.

I guarantee not one person at MS has thought about what happens when a game has a licenced soundtrack in this scenario, so it will get probably pulled or restricted to an MS owned video site at the last seond.

 

[mattp]

doesn't sony let game publisher decide to make their games forced online now? or is that only for psn downloadable games (capcom did this with a couple games, not sure if anyone else did)

 

[JoeFenix]

You sir, have not seen the wake up club thread.

It's a little app that is self contained, it doesn't force you to jump through insane hoops even if people can 'boost' it if they want to.

This is a completely different thing.

 

[metsallica]

You know what would really sell me on this system (not that I need to be sold, I'll buy one no matter what they do)? If it rethinks achievements to the point that I can turn them off. I consider them to be the worst thing to happen to gaming in my lifetime and couldn't care less about them. They're artificial game extension mechanisms. I don't begrudge people who enjoy them, but I'd love to game in a world where they don't exist, like I used to.

 

[FStop7]

The next Xbox will allow publishers to decide if their games should require an internet connection to be played.

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[Riggs]

I guarantee not one person at MS has thought about what happens when a game has a licenced soundtrack in this scenario, so it will get probably pulled or restricted to an MS owned video site at the last seond.

Ding Ding, we have a winner. Never thought of that lol.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I guarantee not one person at MS has thought about what happens when a game has a licenced soundtrack in this scenario, so it will get probably pulled or restricted to an MS owned video site at the last seond.

Wouldn't the same apply to PS4 uploads? I think a solution to this should be disabling the soundtrack, but I'm not sure if that's technically feasible.

 

[i-Lo]

I think they just successfully made me disdain achievements permanently.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

It's a little app that is self contained, it doesn't force you to jump through insane hoops even if people can 'boost' it if they want to.

This is a completely different thing.

There's no platinum on Xbox. No reason to get 100%. None of this is mandatory. So getting more achievements for by buying or playing one or more game is jumping through hoops but changing our sleep schedule for trophies is not? LOLZ.

 

[Riggs]

Watching Terminator 2 on Netflix atm, do I get an achievement for this?

 

[pharmboy044]

Of course, and my Vita can play PS3 games too!

I'm not sure what your Vita and PS3 have to do with this. Are you implying those cross buy trophies are the same as this cross-gen achievement functionality?

 

[Guymelef]

Why so much rumors about the "always online" and nobody talk about specs?