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Polygon: "Shenmue's 3 budget is a mystery, and why that's a problem."
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Spaced Harrier
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Polygon's budget is from Microsoft and why that's a problem.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont understand all the talk around Shenmue 3 regarding this. Like someone said earlier, we hardly know the budgets of games, so why is Shenmue 3 suddently so different in this regards? I understand if people wanted more clearity in the begining, but now we know that Sony will be supportive as well, both in terms of some funding and advertisement. What more transparency are people requesting?
Generally speaking, it also feels that someone acts like the gamers owns Shenmue 3 and that the developers are trying to "take it away" from the gamers due to the Kickstarter were done, kinda demanding that the publishers should fund everything. One even went as far as calling it for extortion. That would be like saying that publishers are doing kidnapping when they dont localize games eventhough that they can easily afford it. We cant demand what people do with their property, especially not when it comes to something like games.
Generally speaking, it also feels that someone acts like the gamers owns Shenmue 3 and that the developers are trying to "take it away" from the gamers due to the Kickstarter were done, kinda demanding that the publishers should fund everything. One even went as far as calling it for extortion. That would be like saying that publishers are doing kidnapping when they dont localize games eventhough that they can easily afford it. We cant demand what people do with their property, especially not when it comes to something like games.
Laevateinn
Member
Edit: beaten
Flawless victory.
hiphoptherobot
Member
"Shenmue's 3 budget is a mystery, and why that's a problem." - I'm trying to figure out where he actually talks about why it's a problem. Kuchera is a joke.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I think it's pretty obvious they won't know what kind of budget they're gonna have until the Kickstarter is over. My guess is that if they hit the $2 million baseline Sony's in for say another $10 million, if they make $4 million Sony will contribute $15 mil, and so on*. No-one's going to have a clear idea of what kind of budget they're looking at for another 30 days, so clearly Polygon jumped the gun in order to get some clicks as it's a hot topic right now.
*Numbers completely made up for demonstrative purposes.
*Numbers completely made up for demonstrative purposes.
From the article
Not really. Contracts need to be signed. I'm sure they're ironing out the details and negotiation and assembling the financiers right at this very moment, and with Sony behind them -- there's no need to worry. Our questions will be answered over time, but right now, it's good to know that the game is going to get made.
Not really. Contracts need to be signed. I'm sure they're ironing out the details and negotiation and assembling the financiers right at this very moment, and with Sony behind them -- there's no need to worry. Our questions will be answered over time, but right now, it's good to know that the game is going to get made.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Such concern
Kojirospath
Member
Polygon was a mistake, nothing but trash.
I don't understand how this doesn't get old.
amstradcpc
Member
I would like this thread to be closed.Is clicks for that web, each day more ridiculous.
Interficium
Banned
I love how all of Polygon, Kuchera especially, is publically completely against gamergaters, but continue to relentlessly publish the kind of tinfoil-hat concern-trolling "OPINION: Hey GAMERS, You're getting SCREWED and you don't even know it! Please be upset." garbage that audience loves so much. Talk about cynical.
rrvv
Member
Enough to secure console exclusivity
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yep. They only owe people what they've promised. That means the game and the rewards, that's it.
disappeared
Banned
How to bake a Polygon pie:
1. Pre-heat internet to 450 degrees with clickbait title.
2. Throw a bunch of salt and placebos into pie crust.
3. Half-bake until you have a lukewarm pile of shit.
GiantBombGamer
Member
Kuchera and Gies can both kick rocks. They create more drama and vitriol than every "problem" in the industry they've ever written about combined.
Veritigo_X
Member
How often do we know budgets before the game is released? What a weird article.
DangerMouse
Member
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
The kickstarter was done to help define the scope and budget.
Now at least 1 major player has stepped up to the plate.
Who cares if we don't know the budget or if Yu doesn't quite know the budget yet.
It will be definitized eventually and the game will be developed.
Frankly, I'm just excited we are getting more of the Shenmue story.
Now at least 1 major player has stepped up to the plate.
Who cares if we don't know the budget or if Yu doesn't quite know the budget yet.
It will be definitized eventually and the game will be developed.
Frankly, I'm just excited we are getting more of the Shenmue story.
maquiladora
Member
So we should be concerned about knowing what the budget for all games are when they are announced? Or just this one?
Because people kept bugging Sony and Sega about Shenmue. No one believed there was demand so Sony likely said, 'We'll see if there's demand, REAL demand, with a kickstarter and if people are serious about it or not. Put up or shut up.' Because making a new Shenmue game in 2015 is a gamble no matter what the budget.
That's it. Star Citizen did the same thing. The only difference here is that Sony is involved and as someone looking for things to sell their console with, they'll likely prevent feature creep.
The real issue is why we can't get this for Yakuza translations.
That's it. Star Citizen did the same thing. The only difference here is that Sony is involved and as someone looking for things to sell their console with, they'll likely prevent feature creep.
The real issue is why we can't get this for Yakuza translations.
YianGaruga
Banned
If Kuchera was a GAF poster he would have been juniored a long time ago.
Kocolino67
Member
Many things are mysterious and problematic. Shenmue 3 it is not.
HAHAHA Just perfect.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
All Polygon articles are stupid, of course. That whole thing of, 'you're not really being a journalist or sharing educated opinions, you're just making clickbait' is patronizing and simplistic but every now and again you come across an article that has so little relevance or connection to what it's about that you end up standing there, gazing at the screen and saying "I'm just reading buzzfeed-tier articles and my time is being wasted," to a slightly bemused GAF member.
Zekra Dezivad
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/thread
Remachinate
Member
But can backers know the level of quality that they can expect from the game without a sense of budget? Isn't it reasonable to want better information before you plunk down money for a nonrefundable preorder of a game that's some time away?
I'm actually amazed at how many people are getting upset at the idea that would-be backers would want some transparency about what they're putting money towards.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Polygon's got an agenda, that's all I get out of this.
All of them. If developers are unwilling to break down their budget for me in the form of a pie chart I'm afraid I'll have to pass.
YianGaruga
Banned
lol. Never gets old.