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Predict the Flops of 2017
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Can scalebound flop, if it's expected to flop? Think about it
Don't think it will flop but it will do just okay. Not setting the world on fire or anything, just solid
Hellshadow
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I hate to say it but, Hellblade. Hopefully it's more than just tech.
For Honor will flop like Steep did. Wildlands seems like generic stuff to me too; don't expect it to cause much excitement.
Yeah, I see this coming easily.
Yeah, I see this coming easily.
ViewtifulJC
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Quantum Break'd
James Sawyer Ford
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Hmm? Since when was Horizon being reviewed?
DriftingSpirit
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Ah, I see. Thanks.
Need to frame it within the context of the series itself. Sales are down significantly YOY. Physical sales in November down nearly 50%... http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/09/nove...ales-fell-nearly-50-percent-analysts-say.html
Kenzodielocke
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Given the studios track record, it'll underwhelm, saleswise.
BarringGaffner
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I agree the demos have been impressive but have a hard time believing Geurilla will suddenly be able to make a great game. I think the bland/repetitive open world missions will knock it down critically.
As for commercial success... I just don't think this game has the style to make it a hit. It may not 'flop' but it won't be a hit.
Im confused do reviews get pre release builds (Alpha,Beta) to review?
I can see it doing well or OK with how well the Division has done.
Ricerocket
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Expecting Scalebound to flop.
The demo from Nier Automata makes Scalebound look really bad when it comes to boss encounter atleast.
The demo from Nier Automata makes Scalebound look really bad when it comes to boss encounter atleast.
StrongBlackVine
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That is not automated. She has a skill that slows time when aiming.
OK I'm not going go through this entire topic correcting people on Horizon. It will speak for itself in two months.
humansarehorses
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He means previewing.
I'm surprised you were disappointed in Gears of War 4, most have been thoroughly impressed. Initial sales, however, were lower than its predecessors.
I don't disagree with you, though. I don't think Microsoft's output can be considered to be a series of 'flops'but similarly, I think they're undoubtedly lacking that X-Factor that SIE have. I haven't yet seen a game from MSI don't think everthat has that Last Of Us impact. And that's a real shame.
They have enormous talent but I suspect lack the creative freedom they need to shine, probably exacerbated by the fact that the majority of their studios are typecast into one franchise.
Glass Rebel
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I've said it before but the combined powers of Yoko Taro and Platinum will deliver a super bomb in Nier Automata. It's a goddamn shame but it is what it is.
Kenzodielocke
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They get the complete game just like the people that do the age ratings is what I am understanding.
Chaos2Frozen
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Nioh won't flop critically because people have played both demos and we know what to expect.
Nioh won't flop commercially because it taps into the best of the Souls fanbase- Bloodborne players.
Scalebound might flop because it's like it's being developed for the wrong audience. Japanese game about monsters and dragons for XBox? Come on son.
Nioh won't flop commercially because it taps into the best of the Souls fanbase- Bloodborne players.
Scalebound might flop because it's like it's being developed for the wrong audience. Japanese game about monsters and dragons for XBox? Come on son.
BoosterDuck
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Nier Automata
Sonic Generations 2
Nintendo Switch
the next Asscreed
Call of Duty Super Advanced Warfare
Knack 2
Scalebound
Sea of Thieves
Cra3kdown
Resident Evil 7
For Honor
Sonic Generations 2
Nintendo Switch
the next Asscreed
Call of Duty Super Advanced Warfare
Knack 2
Scalebound
Sea of Thieves
Cra3kdown
Resident Evil 7
For Honor
It's going to make Sony day moneyz though
I don't think that'd mean flop, though. Like, a couple of franchises come to mind that are mediocre af gameplay wise and yet are regarded as some of the best games ever.
I swear... MS could have a majority of Japanese games and people will still repeat this nonsense...
Sound like back door shady deal stuff.
Explain.
Magic Mushroom
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Don't get the appeal either, but I'm more of a benefit of the doubt guy period.
Wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna see a lot of Horizon crow eating soon.
Critical flop:
Injustice 2 - With WB seems committed into making it a cosmetics based fighting game, it'll be its downfall. And the story mode will likely be shorter.
Commercial flop:
Crackdown 3 - the game comes out at least 3 years too late. Should've been a launch title. It'll cost too much to run the Cloud technology due to the low userbase, but they'll put out Scorpio version with the offline destructibility fully intact.
Injustice 2 - With WB seems committed into making it a cosmetics based fighting game, it'll be its downfall. And the story mode will likely be shorter.
Commercial flop:
Crackdown 3 - the game comes out at least 3 years too late. Should've been a launch title. It'll cost too much to run the Cloud technology due to the low userbase, but they'll put out Scorpio version with the offline destructibility fully intact.
Horizon will probably sell well, although I think it'll bomb in regards to player impressions a while after release though. Guerilla Games have yet to produce a game that nailed the narrative part of it imo rather than just being technically well functioning games.
Scalebound will probably flop both commercially and critically though.
Scalebound will probably flop both commercially and critically though.
Ricerocket
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Looks mediocre? Flops usually mean fail in the worst ways possible...
??? At the bolded
Theslammer
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I think it should be repeated: for something to flop, it has to fail completely. A movie that has a $150 million budget and opens to $10 million is a flop considering its budget, moreso than a $1 million movie that makes $5 million.
Gravity Rush isn't made to sell a billion copies. So unless it was budgeted to the point where it would have to be a system seller or something of the sort, I wouldn't consider it a flop.
It's like saying indie games are all flops. Most indie developers aren't expecting to sell a ton of copies.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
For Honor has a pretty decent YouTube and Twitch footprint already, just from the closed alphas. It has more in common with Siege than Steep.
SneakersSO
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Horizon is gonna flop? Everything about it has looked amazing so far - is this just wishful thinkin on behalf of certain posters or is there some genuine cause for concern?
Scalebound has looked like its gonna flop for years now, and its Platinum, who have trouble finding commercial success even when they review well.
The only major flops I can see manifesting next year are either Crackdown or Scalebound, just on the basis that a lot of MS IP outside of Halo/Gears/Forza have had very little success this generation. It seems like their marketing teams are just better suited for those 3 titles.
Scalebound has looked like its gonna flop for years now, and its Platinum, who have trouble finding commercial success even when they review well.
The only major flops I can see manifesting next year are either Crackdown or Scalebound, just on the basis that a lot of MS IP outside of Halo/Gears/Forza have had very little success this generation. It seems like their marketing teams are just better suited for those 3 titles.
StrongBlackVine
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You have never heard mock reviews? They do it for films as well.
Unknown One
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Scalebound will tumble down a mountain and land straight up in lava.
Magic Mushroom
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Which is why they hired the guy who wrote New Vegas as well as people from CD Projekt Red.
I don't know about how good that game will be but the developers don't really matter here when it comes to commercial success. Horizon's visuals overshadow any developer name and are striking enough to be one of the few games "Call of Duty and FIFA players" will know about.
Nice ideas but they don't seem to show off how everything works like Witcher previews, seems highly scripted and for me, small things like animation and such look inconsistent. I also have no faith in GG.
I'm surprised you were disappointed in Gears of War 4, most have been thoroughly impressed. Initial sales, however, were lower than its predecessors.
I don't disagree with you, though. I don't think Microsoft's output can be considered to be a series of 'flops'but similarly, I think theyre undoubtedly lacking that X-Factor that SIE have. I haven't yet seen a game from MSI don't think everthat has that Last Of Us impact. And that's a real shame.
They have enormous talent but I suspect lack the creative freedom they need to shine, probably exacerbated by the fact that the majority of their studios are typecast into one franchise.
Wat? Last gen they had that with Halo 3, Gears (new IP) and Mass Effect. Your definition of X Factor is really your own perception, but you can't deny they impact the games I mentioned above had during its time. Countless GOTYs, huge sales and contributed to thier genres.
Baroquemantic
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I can't see Horizon flopping at all. I think it'll sell and review well.
FinaruDensetsu
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Haha this is standard practice in the industry. It's basically playtesting but judging how fun it is instead of looking for bugs.
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