I doubt they would let Capcon deliver junk, but at the same time I doubt a lot of just Marvel fans will pick up. It has Marvel characters, but in a highly technical fighting game. But they still got Spiderman(is that 2017?)
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Predict the Flops of 2017
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I doubt they would let Capcon deliver junk, but at the same time I doubt a lot of just Marvel fans will pick up. It has Marvel characters, but in a highly technical fighting game. But they still got Spiderman(is that 2017?)
Any word on Ghost Recon Wildlands? I've heard no hype for it.
Metal Gear Survive is very likely to flop. Nobody wants this game.
Quite a few people couldn't git gud at W101 and think it's a bad game because of it. They are beyond wrong of course.
Metal Gear Survive is very likely to flop. Nobody wants this game.
Quite a few people couldn't git gud at W101 and think it's a bad game because of it. They are beyond wrong of course.
GT sales have been declining. I take flop to mean below expectations, not necessarily a commercial failure.
No date yet but I hope it is
StrongBlackVine
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One game does not indicate a trend.
Nightengale
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I'd say we trend more towards console gaming trends of the hardcore gaming niche, so even stuff like extremely mainstream IPs like CoD and sports stuff fly below the radar.
ElBoxyBrown
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But you can beat up Captain Marvel. It can't fail.
you're understanding of what a flop is not accurate
Magic Mushroom
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Nope. His resume is more telling to me than an E3 demo. Remember the reception of Doom's E3 showing? Now it's topping GotY lists.
I was more looking at it in a contextual sense. Demon's Souls was, at the time, a niche game through and through, the series' massive success only coming afterwards so the initial design was lead by that. Horizon is Sony's big new IP with a lot riding on it which, generally, doesn't allow much room for the same kind of innovation Demon's brought. As has been said in the thread there's worries from EZA that it might fall into the typical open world traps of "towers" and the like. They're just not the same type of game nor do they come from the same kind of development team. Not that AAA games can't be like Demon's Souls, but there's definitely more restrictions on them in terms of how "far out" the devs can actually go with their game.
Though, like I've said, I'm not as down on the game as others have been, to me a 80-85 seems perfectly fine for the game, my viewpoint is that the game won't be a game-changer or a GOTY candidate like Bloodborne and Witcher 3 this gen have been and will simply be another really good PS4 exclusive. I'm definitely looking forward to it; especially now I've bought a Pro.
BennyBlanco
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FROMSoft may not have had a 90+ metacritic game before Souls but they had games that were very good and highly creative like Otogi 1/2 and Kings Field. I wouldn't say Guerilla Games is a bad developer, they're just middling. Killzone was/is generic as hell. I wouldn't be totally shocked if Horizon turned out good but I wouldn't be surprised if it just turned out to be like an average Ubisoft open world AAA game with a different setting either.
Zelda: I can see a huge rift across the internet and on GAF. Either that Nintendo didn't quite execute very well on the dungeons or the concepts didn't fall quite in line with preview coverage, or many of those that prefer and miss the hand-holding will feel left out.
PatientRain
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I'm really worried that Mass Effect will be DA:I in space
Cipher Peon
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I've never heard of this game and it sounds absolutely amazing in every way????? Ahhhhhhhhhh
Also I find Neogaf's... interesting perspectives to speak volumes on a lot of stuff. I don't find myself agreeing with many things here, but it's all so fascinating to read and absorb and question why I look for things differently than everyone else. I think it's really easy to get absorbed into the consensus, but with some self awareness I always remember my own priorities when it comes to games, movies, etc. It's all in good fun and in the name of sharing perspectives, anyway!
it might explain why it's so hard to convince folks that the dedicated hardware market is in sharp decline in npd threads - it's a pretty safe place for people who have probably come up with a playstation or ps2 (or even ps3), when outside that bubble, it's a rapidly changing landscape. the general market is probably catering to the needs of people on average about ten years younger than the average gaf user (who i'm guessing is in their mid-late 20s and early 30s).
ROUGE_BLOCK
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Halo 6: Nemesis
ElBoxyBrown
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Halo 6 is not coming in 2017.
Caipirinha
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That's exactly why these guys are saying it. It's not a genuine prediction, they're just cashing in their outside he's so that in the off chance it does flop they can say "I told you so".
Nah. They'll pack it with some interesting amiibo to generate some hype around it.
plasmawave
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Probably Yakuza 0 sadly.
Buy the game because it's awesome!
Buy the game because it's awesome!
Diprosalic
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i played it and thought it was alright at best and it comes from a developer who has a long history of mediocrity.
StrongBlackVine
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Halo 5 already had Nemesis where you kept fighting the same boss over and over! It won't be a 2017 game either.
It looks dope to me. Like some Lost Planet mixed with Panzer Dragoon. Colour me hyped.
Well all know Horizon will have little to no freedom in it's gameplay, but I also don't like comparing the two.
I know for a fact that Nier Automata > Scalebound from what we've seen... I need to get on the PlayStation platform asap unless somehow my Surface can run it.
We're definitely a SNES/PS1 era generation forum at our core, though some of that is inherent to being a forum in the first place, as younger people use Reddit, Discord, or just normal social media channels in general while getting their gaming info from YouTube, Twitch, and word of mouth instead of IGN.
shinobi602
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Mind control man. Mind control.
Yep, can see this as being a real flop across the internet. The glory days of ME1 and 2 are almost impossible to top in most minds, and it's practically unfair on any developer to even attempt. Even if there is inherently nothing truly wrong with it, the most minor flaws will be under such scrutiny and bring about the same heated swing emotions that buried ME3 and DA:I among the hardcore. Many will shrug and enjoy it all the same, but the most vocal will burn it to the ground. Then again, Doom ended up alright...
I hear that Aaron Flynn is actually a Reaper.
dreamlongdead
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Well, I'll contribute even though similar threads have been locked up. I'm not surprised to see replies that are so off the mark.
Scalebound will be a commercial flop regardless of its actual quality, because that is just the fate of Platinum titles. The Xbox One exclusivity certainly does not help its prospects at all.
Ever Oasis for 3DS could potentially end up as both a commercial and critical bomb. Practically no one even acknowledges its existence, and its developer's reputation is shaky. I expect Ever Oasis to satisfy my personal tastes, so I don't think I will be disappointed. It seems like a safe buy to me, especially with the current lack of software competition on handhelds.
Scalebound will be a commercial flop regardless of its actual quality, because that is just the fate of Platinum titles. The Xbox One exclusivity certainly does not help its prospects at all.
Ever Oasis for 3DS could potentially end up as both a commercial and critical bomb. Practically no one even acknowledges its existence, and its developer's reputation is shaky. I expect Ever Oasis to satisfy my personal tastes, so I don't think I will be disappointed. It seems like a safe buy to me, especially with the current lack of software competition on handhelds.
gundamkyoukai
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Don't think Horizon will be a flop but don't expect it to a huge success .
I am hype for it but some people hoping for more than they should .
I think it will end up being a mid tier game for Sony sales wise .
I am hype for it but some people hoping for more than they should .
I think it will end up being a mid tier game for Sony sales wise .
pfft, I've felt that way ever since CoD multiplayer became a thing
personally, not NeoGAF
Like the Chibi Robo amiibo bundle retailers try to sell for 10 to get rid of stock.
The big difference is the interaction between players.
Friday the 13th has the potential to be a huge stream game. It's made for personalities that want to put a little into it. The game itself is OK maybe, but Micky Mouse running around murdering fools is what really makes it special. If I were developing that game I would absolutely be looking at some sort of Twitch feature integration.
Absolutely. The game was made for streaming. There's a whole lot of tabletop to be mined there. Maybe even a little improv. Let the audience throw modifiers at the streamers. There's something new that hasn't been done before that's possible with this game.
Would have expected assuming direct control.
ROUGE_BLOCK
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I'm banking on it, MS will rush 343 into making Halo 6 for the Scorpio launch. It's only killer app!
RIP 343
With Mass Effect: Andromeda, BioWare has been delivering a steady 4-5 million copies across the vast majority of the Dragon Age and Mass Effect titles.
However, I think the real challenge for them at this point is doing better than that. Almost every major RPG is doing 10+ million copies, while BioWare is stuck in second gear. Even more niche stuff like Dark Souls is doing around their numbers these days.
That's not to say 4-5 million is unprofitable for them, but I would find it underwhelming given their genre and development expenditures.
However, I think the real challenge for them at this point is doing better than that. Almost every major RPG is doing 10+ million copies, while BioWare is stuck in second gear. Even more niche stuff like Dark Souls is doing around their numbers these days.
That's not to say 4-5 million is unprofitable for them, but I would find it underwhelming given their genre and development expenditures.
the definition of flop is all over the place here
gundamkyoukai
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I won't say that it's just that some games don't catch on gaf .
Plus forums are old school compare everything we have today .
Supermanisdead
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Horizon, critically. Looks like a by the numbers open world game and it's just too late for that now. Too many similar ideas.
Stantron
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The game is ready to be released from beta. The devs are waiting until they can support mobile before launching which should be sometime early 2017. I think we'll see a bit more marketing at that time, and hopefully the gameplay speaks for itself to gain popularity. Most HS players that I've heard from say that the game is more strategic and less RNG based which gives it more depth, but at the moment HS is more profitable for already popular streamers. Hope it does well. The game is great and has been one of my most played of 2016.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Sea of Thieves, but I think the novelty will wear off quickly and new content will not release quickly enough to hold people's interest.
Ninja Scooter
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GAF once again proving how far off the pulse of the mass market enthusiasts like us can be.
If it's below expectations to any degree FLOP
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