Night Hunter
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Prey's debut sales in the UK seem quite low
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Don't worry, they'll find a way to blame something or someone else
Yeah, I mentioned those earlier as kind of the last gasp of the genre.
I'm not aware of Consortium so I'll give that a look. Prey will probably decently expensive. It seems like even the most marginal AAA games cost 40m plus these days. I wonder if Nirolak or one of the other people with solid numbers has a guesstimate on the price tag here.
ModernBoxes
Banned
Back when they used to incorrectly incorporate EGM/CGW/GFW scores in their listing I sent an email to the creator of metacritic. He replied back with a dickhead response and signed me up to a hundred porn mailing lists.
Wish I saved the email. Good times.
Messofanego
Banned
Nah, I saw trailers at the cinema, just saw one before GotG Vol 2 a few days ago. I'm pretty sure there are posters on train stations and buses.
MilkyJoe
Member
I've not seen anything, nothing on TV, nothing on my trains, the stations. Nothing in the metro, there's no early review copies with this game anyway?
comshoplesce
Member
Who to believe now?
http://www.playstationtrophies.org/...Charts---Prey-Stalks-The-Top-Spot-On-PS4.html
what's the maximum size for picture allowed here?
http://www.playstationtrophies.org/...Charts---Prey-Stalks-The-Top-Spot-On-PS4.html
what's the maximum size for picture allowed here?
Don't they both say the same thing? Mario kart at 1 and Prey at number 2 in the multi-platform chart.
This is where Bethesda's policy hurts. Even if some of the MIA reviews are right within the average (say 85/100) and don't change the overall picture very much, it is more exposure. I know TheRadBrad did a one hour walk through of the game, but I don't know if the game got talked about very much on other popular channels (they all seem too busy freaking out about not being able to monetize M-Rate COD content). If people on here are looking at this as quasi-stealth release, the general public isn't going to be very aware of it.
I actually saw quite a lot of ads for this game but your mileage may vary. Bethesda handled this game poorly, starting with the name and ending with their review policy. Well at least I can probably pick it up on the cheap real soon. May be even faster than Dishonored 2, that was was sold for like 25 a month after release.
I hope it's at least the end of that stupid name.
Putting Prey, Deus Ex etc in the same category as soma, Firewatch etc makes zero sense.
Prey is wonderful people. Buy it!
Phantom Head Shaver
Neo Member
On the indie front there's also The Signal from Tölva, which came out last month.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1359582
Brilliant game, lack of reviews/advertisement has'nt helped. Most modern gamers don't bother with single player games (around 20 hrs mark) until they are dirt cheap just look at the recent failures.
As somebody who does not bothered about co -op/ multi-player games, this current trend worries me. Open world games Buck this trend But they are filled with too much filler and they get boring after a while I cannot comment on Horizon or BOTW. Ghost Recon Wildlands and Mass Effect Andromeda are prime examples can of this.
It's nothing do do with it being a immersive sim, people want x amount of hours for a full price game.
As somebody who does not bothered about co -op/ multi-player games, this current trend worries me. Open world games Buck this trend But they are filled with too much filler and they get boring after a while I cannot comment on Horizon or BOTW. Ghost Recon Wildlands and Mass Effect Andromeda are prime examples can of this.
It's nothing do do with it being a immersive sim, people want x amount of hours for a full price game.
Who's been calling Soma and Firewatch immersive sims? Walking Sim seems like the title most thrown at Firewatch and Soma is just a horror game. Interactive drama is another genre name I've seen thrown at them.
They don't even have any elements tangentially related to an immersive sim.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I feel like the demo has hurt it.
I did not like the demo at all. It's literally the reason I won't even consider buying it. I doubt I'm the only one.
I did not like the demo at all. It's literally the reason I won't even consider buying it. I doubt I'm the only one.
Oh I completely agree with you.
I clicked the link that was posted from Giantbomb earlier in the thread. https://www.giantbomb.com/immersive-sim/3015-5700/
They lump, BioShock, Deus Ex, Firewatch, Fallout, SOMA, Alien Isolation etc etc all in the same stupid "immersive sim" category. haha it triggers me so hard to see that.
Noted. Thanks!
They're included in the giantbomb directory for immersive sims but I'm guessing that's just more of an error on their end than anything else.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
But is the lack of marketing the only reason or do people for some reason just don't want to buy it?
Goddamn this is such a shame because this is one hell of a game and 100% worth your money if your even remotely into space/sci-fi in gaming. Would absolutely hate to see Arkane leaving eventually due to this. How did Dishonored 2 do in terms of sales?
Goddamn this is such a shame because this is one hell of a game and 100% worth your money if your even remotely into space/sci-fi in gaming. Would absolutely hate to see Arkane leaving eventually due to this. How did Dishonored 2 do in terms of sales?
System Shock remake and System Shock 3 are still being developed, along with Underworld Ascendent. Might be the end for AAA involvement though. Not unless this builds up fast.
Though it could instead be the end for Bethesda doing a blanket no review copy policy. That'd be nice and is just looking really, really stupid now.
Bloodporne
Member
A bit off topic but are the two Shocks (remake & 3) slated for console releases at all or PC only?
ClosingADoor
Member
Plenty of people probably have good reasons not to buy it (they want multiplayer games, don't like the setting, etc, etc), but if those people don't know the game is out, then they don't get to the point of even making that decision. That some people on GAF don't know a major Bethesda game is out screams: not enough marketing.
JigglesBunny
Banned
As GAF's resident Mirror's Edge lover, welcome to the land of DOA games, Prey fans.
Where the publishers are neglectful, the sales are paltry and your favorite game is treated like dirty laundry.
Where the publishers are neglectful, the sales are paltry and your favorite game is treated like dirty laundry.
The Remake was announced for Xbox and PC initially with no PS4 version and that was a big deal with people then (they since announced they'd get it on PS4 too.)
Dunno about SS3 though, I'd imagine they'd try to get it on consoles too.
Magic Mushroom
Member
I don't think it bombed, but worse than the first.
InsaneTiger
Member
The cover art failed, should have been face down, eyes up, shotgun resting on shoulder.
Bloodporne
Member
Ah man, great. I just now checked up on the Remake because of this thread and I really liked what I saw. Excited for that now as well, another one to add to the laundry list.
yanipheonu
Member
Only even knew because I saw one or two Let's Plays. Sad part is it might be up my alley, but I barely knew it existed.
More_Badass
Member
I wonder which immersive sim will be the Divinity or Elite of its genre? Human Revolution and Dishonored seemed like it, but then the sequels seems to burn out in terms of sales compared to those. Space sims and CRPGs came back in a major way, would suck for this subgenre to disappear again. I have high hopes for SS3 though
Weird to hear people say no marketing. I actually got kind of sick of the constant plugging on Facebook and YouTube.
Though I think very little of it included release dates, true. I guess we're just really accustomed to reviews signaling a game is out, and it seems all the major review sites decided to give Bethesda a taste of their own medicine by having no hurry whatsoever.
Though I think very little of it included release dates, true. I guess we're just really accustomed to reviews signaling a game is out, and it seems all the major review sites decided to give Bethesda a taste of their own medicine by having no hurry whatsoever.
Don't worry, it came out in Japan last month, that'll save it
dottme
Member
I've seen some let's play on YouTube. But I did not really watch them. I'm not even sure what kind of kind it is and what the game is about.
Only even knew because I saw one or two Let's Plays. Sad part is it might be up my alley, but I barely knew it existed.
There are reviews.
The game is even sitting with a good user score, free of weird fanboy sabotage. Something you don't get to see very often!
I still hold the firm conviction that this would have got more press coverage as a new IP rather than a reboot of a game very few cared about. The name Prey couldn't be more generic, really.
Hell, I wish the real System Shock 3 could have the budget and backing from a big publisher that Prey has received for nothing.
I fear for Arkane after Dishonoured 2 and Prey. Top notch games, shit sales.
Hell, I wish the real System Shock 3 could have the budget and backing from a big publisher that Prey has received for nothing.
I fear for Arkane after Dishonoured 2 and Prey. Top notch games, shit sales.
This is a big reason. I literally only found out it released today. Maybe anecdotal on my part but didn't seem there was any marketing.
Agreed. The name is was a poor choice.
I didn't like the demo. The actual game is brilliant.
TheMagician
Member
I walked into GAME on release date and there were about 50 people at the counter asking about and demanding a Switch version.
Security had to be called to calm them down.
Security had to be called to calm them down.
ISee
Member
There is no way you can release a fresh IP in this day 'n age. It will automatically fail.
Looks at Nioh and Horizon Zero Dawn.
Even a well known developer studio has to use an already existent IP, especially if the game is going to be a spiritual successor to a beloved game.
Looks at Bloodborne
Nothing Bethesda could have done here, Todd knows and understands the gaming business like no other.
/s
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Eh, I'd rather there were a few more days left in the week for them to eek out a patch before diving in deep on the weekend.
I was feeling a bit ignorant having no idea the game was already out, but some of the first posts made it pretty clear it's Bethesda's fault lol.
This is pretty sad because I love Arkane's worth and at this point it almost feels like Bethesda is purposely sabotaging their projects, I mean after Dishonored 2 this is just ridiculous...
This is pretty sad because I love Arkane's worth and at this point it almost feels like Bethesda is purposely sabotaging their projects, I mean after Dishonored 2 this is just ridiculous...
thepenguin55
Member
And Game Informer is still the only major outlet to post a review. They're pretty positive on it but still...
I've heard so much in the lead up to this game "oh yeah, Prey is coming out" from almost every gaming podcast I listen to (which is basically all of the podcasts from notable outlets) as well as from all of my gaming friends.
The genre name comes off as kind of smug sounding to me. "Oh, you make First Person Shooters? How cute. We make IMMERSIVE SIMS *adjusts monocle*." It's a fluffy genre name that describes nothing. It sounds good and when you dig into the definition it starts to make some sense (I guess?) but it's a terrible name. Even people who make these games hate the name.
Having said all of that, I've always wanted to get into these type of games and Prey looks like an interesting game. The X1 demo is... intriguing but it didn't leave a strong enough impression on me to pull the trigger on it just yet. I'm definitely waiting on some outlets reviews before I buy it.
ClosingADoor
Member
It also made sure that a lot of the talk was "no, this is not the old Prey!" in coverage, which might confuse people, since they now feel they are in the middle of a series instead of just a new game.
Should have named it different really. Still don't know why they went with this. Not like the Prey brand is really strong from 1 game that came out in 2006 or so.
Intheflorsh
Banned
It's almost like you can't dump out a new franchise with zero marketing or prerelease reviews.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
It has a demo which is better for me (I prefer my opinions). Unfortunately the demo is bad.
Messofanego
Banned
Who says Firewatch and Soma are immersive sims? lol. They're more adventure games.
Immersive sims are all about firstperson RPGs where choices reign supreme and it's about interlocking systems and mechanics.
Haha fuck that shit. I edited the Giantbomb page and they're gone now, you can thank me
