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Project Octopath Traveler on Switch 2018, demo on eShop [Up: Surveys sent out]
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John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
It's the only thing I don't like about the game, too.
Leads to serious fatigue for me, I've struggled to finish random encounter games since the PSX-era.
Hope they edit the system.
Otherwise, the game seems great!
What a dark storyline... who knew.
I'm generally the same but the encounter rate controls in the Bravely games and FFIX mobile totally mitigated that for me. I hope it's included in Octopath.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
At least Ragna the Bloodedge has been able to get a job else where since bbcf, I always laugh when I hear his voice pop up due to just hearing it for over 60 hours now
I need to play somemore. I picked up a Switch late last night. Didnt have much time to play this yet.
Ragna!!!!!! (Thinking bout that creepy stalker girl from BB)
Ragna!!!!!! (Thinking bout that creepy stalker girl from BB)
Tried out the demo for a bit, really don't like the art style as much as everyone else does. The shallow depth of field is annoying, just like the lack of distinction of paths where I can go from purely decorative assets.
But the game plays rather well otherwise and the battles seem pretty interesting so far.
But the game plays rather well otherwise and the battles seem pretty interesting so far.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
The encounter rate is so low tho...
I really wonder what they'll be talking about for 45 minutes next week. Probably each character but even if there are 8 of them there must be something else.
Also I admit that the ???? in the menu is interesting to me. I want to know !
I hope so too, I just don't know if they bothered to make them close their eyes for the demo or if it's because you have to unlock them. According to the map they're all in a different region/country except the save guy and there's a zone with no one at all. Kinda curious.
Also I admit that the ???? in the menu is interesting to me. I want to know !
I hope so too, I just don't know if they bothered to make them close their eyes for the demo or if it's because you have to unlock them. According to the map they're all in a different region/country except the save guy and there's a zone with no one at all. Kinda curious.
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Anyone got the jp survey yet?
You make good points, and I too think that some parts of a game (like boss fights) are better enjoyed if they aren't that common or easy to reach. But I have to say that it's far from a principle that can be applied to any RPG or game.
So you have the last Zelda game, a game driven by its mechanics and open world. A common design choice would be to force the player through the story travelling all around the world. But the dev team trusted the fun of the mechanics they had and let the player choose how much of the game they wanted to visit. It was basically "turn off enemies if you want". This worked well by the very nature of the design and genre, but it would feel out of place in a platformer, for example.
Another decision that changed a franchise's tradition was the inclusion of Casual Mode in FE. It also balances the influence of both players and developers by giving more choices. I think it was a good change that welcomed newcomers, even though I haven't used it and I reset every time a unit dies. Which may sound contradictory but damn... I want those stars on the save file without missing any support.
In RPGs the battles are a good chunk of the game, so it's not that "people don't mind fights as long as the systems involved are fun"; if they don't enjoy them I'd recommend not to play said game. It's just that under certain circumstances some players would prefer them to be less frequent, like when you are completing sidequests but you don't want to be overleveled for the next boss fight. Entering and then escaping a battle multiple times can be really boring and time consuming.
A sidenote, but I found that the Brave system in this demo was too generous. Once you understand it you can destroy everything but the bosses pretty easily (at least on Prim's path).
good lord i love the soundtrack of this game so far...especially the Dungeon Theme, captures that sense of wonder and discovery so well, can't wait to listen the rest of the soundtrack
Primeval shrine has much tougher enemies and enemy groups than the story part of the demo.
Some of the normal enemies there hit fairly hard.
Finally tried Primrose's story while in my bathtub
That was cool. I don't see the problem with "go pleasure yourself" that was kinda witty and fit with what the guy was saying. It's not a way to avoid saying fuck.
It actually was an awesome moment. I liked her more than I thought I would. The allure mechanic is cool too. Can see some potential fun to be had with that.
I hope the Path Actions actually mean something for the other guys though. The Challenge thing is fun but I fail to see practical ways to use it. "Expose evil doers" they said but I need to see it in practice.
In my mind when they said that in the direct I expected to be able to expose directly some people you knew were bad by playing other paths but since you can recruit everyone I guess that's not that. Too bad, could have been cool.
#Cerny
It actually was an awesome moment. I liked her more than I thought I would. The allure mechanic is cool too. Can see some potential fun to be had with that.
I hope the Path Actions actually mean something for the other guys though. The Challenge thing is fun but I fail to see practical ways to use it. "Expose evil doers" they said but I need to see it in practice.
In my mind when they said that in the direct I expected to be able to expose directly some people you knew were bad by playing other paths but since you can recruit everyone I guess that's not that. Too bad, could have been cool.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Where is the survey?
I used a link found elsewhere because they apparently refused to email me.
Quote this post to see it. I don't know if it'll be valid but it works at least
took the survey. I'm trying to get more hd rumble in the game lol
told them the rumble is really great when you trigger a break on an enemy and it'd be really cool if there was some subtle rumble for each boost level and when an enemy dies and bursts into smoke.
also said that random encounters should have a toggle like in bravely default, I'm sure that's the most common complaint right now so honestly it'll either get implemented and if it doesn't than I think we can all conclude that it's like that for a reason
we'll see how that goes
told them the rumble is really great when you trigger a break on an enemy and it'd be really cool if there was some subtle rumble for each boost level and when an enemy dies and bursts into smoke.
also said that random encounters should have a toggle like in bravely default, I'm sure that's the most common complaint right now so honestly it'll either get implemented and if it doesn't than I think we can all conclude that it's like that for a reason
we'll see how that goes
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Thanks
The Xtortionist
Member
Thanks for this - hopefully it's legit and works. Submitted a fairly lengthy and detailed list of potential improvements. I love what this game is going for, and want it to see it improve a ton.
The knight's ability can be used to help an NPC in need, and open a secret cave by beating up an NPC that doesn't permit you to enter.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
But stretched over 50+ hours...
Gives me major fatigue.
Besides, well designed overworld/dungeon-placed enemies adds a fun level of strategy during exploration I enjoy.
Thanks for the link!
Really thorough survey, glad to be able to submit my feedback in such a detailed way. Hope they fix the minor annoyances in the demo, since it's such a beautiful little gem!
titiklabingapat
Member
I still do not understand why developers don't have demos for their games in this day and age. I don't play rpgs, especially jrpgs, but downloading this demo and playing it just because its free actually made me start thinking that I might actually buy this, and start playing other rpgs...
It's a lot of work for the dev team and sometimes demos actually turn people off the game.
And even then most people won't even find it on the eshop because it's stupid, lol
titiklabingapat
Member
So they'd rather I shell out $60 just to see if I like a game? Or just do what I usually do and not shell anything at all even if it means missing hidden gems.
in a world where there was no way to find out about a game before buying it demos would be essential
that world doesn't exist though, there's usually ample pre release footage as well as reviews to know if a game appeals to you or not and you can also just wait until after a game is released and to see how the player base at large feels about it
I can't think of any scenario where you'd be shelling out $60 just to see if you like a game
JoeyJungle
Banned
Um, duh.
I managed the Dreamcast version of Skies of Arcadia, so i'll manage the encounter rate here as well. Didn't seem too bad honestly.
The town was pretty, but the desert was much less so (i played the Primrose demo path). Quite enjoyed the gameplay. The menus need some work though.
I think they need to be careful with the art direction, because it seems like an exagerated use of bloom on a 3D world filled with low rew textures and 2d sprites for the characters. They need to balance it carefully, because what looks beautiful in certain areas, looks tacky in others.
The town was pretty, but the desert was much less so (i played the Primrose demo path). Quite enjoyed the gameplay. The menus need some work though.
I think they need to be careful with the art direction, because it seems like an exagerated use of bloom on a 3D world filled with low rew textures and 2d sprites for the characters. They need to balance it carefully, because what looks beautiful in certain areas, looks tacky in others.
phant0m
Member
Filled out my survey, said they need to fix the unskippable cutscenes and the blur/vignetting is too heavy handed. If both of these are improved, this is a Day 1 for me.
Or you know, wait for reviews or a quick look/let's play.
Or you know, wait for reviews or a quick look/let's play.
Really enjoying it but wow - the first boss (playing as the warrior) - any tips? Game has been a breeze up to this point
Never played a jrpg before but this is a pleasant surprise. What I don't get is the enemies seem to have a massive health max - takes so many hits to kill some
Any tips on the boss?? (I killed the 2 brigands first)
Never played a jrpg before but this is a pleasant surprise. What I don't get is the enemies seem to have a massive health max - takes so many hits to kill some
Any tips on the boss?? (I killed the 2 brigands first)
The Xtortionist
Member
Don't forget to boost your skills. Try to buff your physical attack before breaking the boss, then after breaking him follow up with a boosted 6SP skill that deals high sword damage. You'll deal thousands of damage this way.
Use skills on regular enemies, too. You recover full SP after leveling up (which isn't terribly infrequent), so it's tough to run out.
thanks. What I don't get though is I might break him in one turn - but then I have to break him again next turn too after he recovers from his stammer. Just not sure how you're supposed to follow it up properly - it's like each turn you have to start again
You save your boost, then you hit him until he breaks, and once he does you immediately follow up with the biggest most boosted attack you've got.
Rinse repeat until dead.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Didn't get the survey but I hope others mentioned the odd dither effect when an object becomes transparent. It feels unnecessary and distracting.
So save your boost and do a 4 boost.... yes it would break him. But then the next turn I obviously don't have any boost (well only 2). So I use a special ability you mean?
You don't have to boost to break him, and you can only do a 3 boost max.
If you want to do two max boosts in a row it is possible; you save up 5, use 3, then you get another at the start of your next turn.
The only really important thing is hitting him with a max boost once he's broken.
No, they were saying to keep that boost in reserve and aim to break without using it, so that you can boost your attack after they're broken. Also, abilities (and guards) can also be boosted, not just regular attacks.
Spiritreaver
Member
I know it's surely been mentioned already, but have to reiterate that breaks stun enemies, including bosses.
Breaks are a good way to avoid damage or "big" boss attacks. If you see a boss planning a windup, you can choose to boost and break early to stun that attack rather than just going for damage every time. I think that'll be a more important strategy when you have more than 2 party members.
It also makes managing multiple smaller enemies sometimes easier.
Breaks are a good way to avoid damage or "big" boss attacks. If you see a boss planning a windup, you can choose to boost and break early to stun that attack rather than just going for damage every time. I think that'll be a more important strategy when you have more than 2 party members.
It also makes managing multiple smaller enemies sometimes easier.
I tend to guard when bosses are winding up. I can eat the damage and it gives me another turn of boost for when I really need it.
Spiritreaver
Member
Not a bad idea. I don't think I ever used defense, lol. Oops.
I do hope they play around the break mechanic in the future, though.
I didn't have to challenge the guard. Just walked right past him.
The 3 complaints I included in my survey were the super small text, the abrupt battle transition, and the limited npc dialogue.
I should have included random battles but I assume that's not going to change at this point. I also don't understand why the game doesn't give you an equip option right after you purchase new armor or weapons. I bought a new weapon and didn't even think to go to a separate equip menu because I thought the game did it already.
I should have included random battles but I assume that's not going to change at this point. I also don't understand why the game doesn't give you an equip option right after you purchase new armor or weapons. I bought a new weapon and didn't even think to go to a separate equip menu because I thought the game did it already.