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[teiresias]

Nothing can render in 1080p or 720p unless it was originally created to do so, including the Xbox 360.

Using the Xbox360 as any metric as to what a true next-gen console should be able to do is misguided . . . I kid, because I love, but emulators natively render games at higher resolutions as a matter of course, so you're not correct in any shape or form.

In any case, I'll be excited about the upscaling of games once it goes from upscaling to native higher resolution rendering as that would give an actual jump in quality.

The home network integration is awesome - assuming I can get the damn thing working right, we all know how that goes - and the DVD upscaling may mean my Oppo can finally be sold on Ebay (depending on the quality of course).

However, lack of proper 720p Blu-Ray output with this update is dissapointing given the other scaling functionality being introduced, of course my projector scales the 1080i feed from the PS3 Blu-Ray movies nicely down to 720p so I don't have an issue with it actually.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Here's one DLNA compliant/UPnP media server for PC, TwonkyMedia:

http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

$40 USD that's not bad.

 

[chubigans]

Yeah, that's huge. My PSP just got WAAYYY more valuable. Can't wait to test out the media stuff tomorrow. One slight disappointment though from what I saw is no mention of upscaling PS3 titles. Compared to everything else we're getting, I'll let it slide

But you can't test it tomorrow. Later this month (which is only like a week anyways).

 

[AgentOtaku]

Tonight around 11-12am central.

Wooooooooo!

Alaskan Time FTW!

 

[rager]

Now, does this mean that I can play PS3 games over the internet on my psp?

 

[chriskzoo]

First person to actually explain DLNA and what it will do for us gets a cookie. Since pretty much everything on my PS3 (except for trailers) came originally from my PC, there's no need to go the other way.

 

[gofreak]

Sigh why not just use samba?

Anyway I wonder if there is some DLNA3-compatible server software for PC:s?

Well, I posted a link to DLNA server software just above, TwonkyMedia. There may be more out there. I am guessing DLNA3 is backwards compatible with previous versions, so your DLNA1 or DLNA2 server will work with your DLNA3 player.

Now, does this mean that I can play PS3 games over the internet on my psp?

Hehe, no. I'm pretty sure this will be what Remote Play is at the moment, but over the internet. I.e. media browsing and playback.

 

[jjasper]

Ok I have another is this enabling an emulator in the US ps3 or is it going through GS/EE?

 

[monkeylite]

Sweet news. There hasn't been a better time to finally buy that Sony Vaio SZ4 DLNA enabled laptop.

 

[koam]

For those that questioned the presence of a hardware scaler in the PS3, well, you've just been kicked in the balls.

What makes you say it's hardware and not software?

P.S What's DLNA?

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

If they somehow in the future can implement PS3 wake-on-LAN with PSP Remote Play I will shit my pants and then proceed to purchase a PSP.

 

[Yixian]

I hope they allow music playback during games - WarHawk beta with Sniper blearing: priceless.

 

[test_account]

Hell Yeah, this is what we're talking about....
But what codecs will it handle?, and wtf is DLNA3

I think its this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance

I just read through it fast, but it seems to be some sort of standard that companies follows. Like if a device is DLNA, it means it follows this standard. Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[chubigans]

If they somehow in the future can implement PS3 wake-on-LAN with PSP Remote Play I will shit my pants and then proceed to purchase a PSP.

That's a good point actually. Maybe it'll be addressed too?

 

[BuddyC]

I hope they allow music playback during games - WarHawk beta with Sniper blearing: priceless.

I've been begging for custom soundtracks since day one. Maybe someday.

 

[GCQuinton]

But you can't test it tomorrow. Later this month (which is only like a week anyways).

Heh, read that too fast I guess. Still a week away anyways, though.

 

[DOBERMAN INC]

Here's one DLNA compliant/UPnP media server for PC, TwonkyMedia:

http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Wait, so do i need any hardware for this or do i just buy this software and im good to go?

 

[Manp]

why can't they just support SMB? both sony and ms i mean

 

[Lord Error]

Isn't that still scaling, with just the addition of different filters? Do the games have special and specific emulation code written for them?

No it's not just scaling. The games are internally re-rendered in high resolution. Same thing with PS1 emulators like ePSXe (that one you can try easily, it doesn't require that high end of a PC), and no it's not game-specific.

It's definitely possible to do, but I very much doubt that's what this update will bring. More likely it's "just" upscaling+filters to smooth out image a bit.

 

[monkeylite]

First person to actually explain DLNA and what it will do for us gets a cookie. Since pretty much everything on my PS3 (except for trailers) came originally from my PC, there's no need to go the other way.

DLNA is a media centre tech which enables you to control your content through a DLNA server, in this case the PS3.

 

[MCD]

No Epson scanner support = no sale

:lol

 

[Lince]

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) announced today...

only for PAL PS3 (the ones with software emulation)







I kid.. I kid...

 

[basis]

we gotta fork out more $ to enjoy them features?! NOooooes

 

[womfalcs3]

Sony and Mozilla need to come together and bring Firefox to the PS3 OS... and remove this plug-ins-less travesty they call a browser.

 

[Anzu]

YES!!!!! Remote play on a broadband connection FTW.

 

[gogogow]

only for PAL PS3 (the ones with software emulation)







I kid.. I kid...

Now they need to get MGS3s working again

I hope this firmware update will improve the Euro PS3 BC.

 

[tanod]

Stuff about upscaling/rendering

Stuff about upscaling/rendering

I stand corrected.

 

[teiresias]

only for PAL PS3 (the ones with software emulation)







I kid.. I kid...

You . . . may . . . be . . . right . . . aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh

 

[koam]

DLNA is a media centre tech which enables you to control your content through a DLNA server, in this case the PS3.

Example?

 

[badcrumble]

No it's not just scaling. The games are internally re-rendered in high resolution. Same thing with PS1 emulators like ePSXe (that one you can try easily, it doesn't require that high end of a PC), and no it's not game-specific.

It's definitely possible to do, but I very much doubt that's what this update will bring. More likely it's "just" upscaling+filters to smooth out image a bit.

Well, one would hope that eventually true native 1080p rendering of PSX/PS2 games will be possible on the PS3, right?

 

[gofreak]

Wait, so do i need any hardware for this or do i just buy this software and im good to go?

It's just software. Someone was even demoing a DLNA media server solution running under PS3 Linux, so clearly it's just software.

Some googling suggests there are several solutions out there from different companies like Intervideo, Cyberlink etc. I guess it'll be a matter of finding the best one, and the one that best fits with whatever capabilities the PS3 supports.

DLNA is a media centre tech which enables you to control your content through a DLNA server, in this case the PS3.

The PS3 isn't a server here, as far as I can tell. It's a player that can access media from other DLNA servers, like your PC (with the appropriate software).

 

[tanod]

Sony and Mozilla need to come together and bring Firefox to the PS3 OS... and remove this plug-ins-less travesty they call a browser.

Abso-****ing-lutely. How hard can that be?

 

[monkeylite]

Example?

Using a DNLA laptop to access content on a DNLA PS3 through the local network.

 

[DOBERMAN INC]

It's just software. Someone was even demoing a DLNA media server solution running under PS3 Linux, so clearly it's just software.

Some googling suggests there are several solutions out there from different companies like Intervideo, Cyberlink etc. I guess it'll be a matter of finding the best one, and the one that best fits with whatever capabilities the PS3 supports.

ah great, thanks.

guess i'll check a few of them when the updates available

 

[gofreak]

Using a DNLA laptop to access content on a DNLA PS3 through the local network.

The release doesn't say it has server capability. It sounds purely like player capability. i.e. it will be your PS3 that will be accessing media from other servers, like your PC.

 

[Yixian]

I've been begging for custom soundtracks since day one. Maybe someday.

It boggles the mind we haven't seen it yet.

Wallpapers I can understand - Sony want's to make the XMB background iconic of the PS3. But music? I can't think of a single reason to deny it us.

 

[BeEatNU]

It's just software. Someone was even demoing a DLNA media server solution running under PS3 Linux, so clearly it's just software.

Some googling suggests there are several solutions out there from different companies like Intervideo, Cyberlink etc. I guess it'll be a matter of finding the best one, and the one that best fits with whatever capabilities the PS3 supports.



The PS3 isn't a server here, as far as I can tell. It's a player that can access media from other DLNA servers, like your PC (with the appropriate software).

Well hopefully Sony is releasing some kinda of program that does that but I will try that TwonkyVision

 

[Kinan]

Starting to get into it slowly. It seems you can do it without hardware. What you need is UPnP software player and DLNA media server installed on your PC.

UPnP software players listed on that twonkyvision site :

* Windows Media Player 11 (Windows Vista)
* Cidero Java Control Point
* Nero ShowTime
* on2share plugin for the Windows Media Players
* Rudeo Control
* Sony's Vaio Media Player version 3.1.01.07260

And they have that media server for 40$ for all windows system starting from 95. It also has 30days free trial, so its plenty of time to be sure it will work.

Back to reading.

 

[The Main Event]

Upscaling...****ing finally!

 

[Anzu]

So does this mean the PS3 will be able to play my non-MP4 files? If so, I'll get the DLNA on my PC.

 

[Raistlin]

Sigh why not just use samba?

Because DNLA client/serving can be integrated in HW on CE devices.

 

[SpokkX]

Well, I posted a link to DLNA server software just above, TwonkyMedia. There may be more out there. I am guessing DLNA3 is backwards compatible with previous versions, so your DLNA1 or DLNA2 server will work with your DLNA3 player.

hmm

http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Video: MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG2-TS, MPEG4, AVI, WMV, VOB, DivX, 3GP, VDR, ASF, MPE, DVR-MS, Xvid, M1V, M4V

How does DLNA work? does the client (PS3) have to decode the stream? Or does the DLNA-server convert in realtime to a format the client (PS3) can show?

 

[Dali]

Well, one would hope that eventually true native 1080p rendering of PSX/PS2 games will be possible on the PS3, right?

I think it is possible now, but whether Sony deems it worthy of the effort is something else altogether.

 

[lastendconductor]

WOHOOOOOOO!!!! PS1/2 UPSCALING **** YEAH!!!1

 

[Shompola]

FYI Windows Media Center is also DLNA compatible, however I am not sure if you can stream from Media Center to PS3 that way.

 

[spwolf]

ok, my day just got a lot better... thank you SONY.

now bouc - can you please take care and show us differences once firmware is out? Thank you dude!

 

[tanod]

As long as the PS2, PS1 and DVDs also will upscale to 720p and 1080i, I'll be happy. Remote play, world-wide FTMFW.

 

[Twix]

I don’t wanna crash this party..but what about the in-game XMB feature ? is it coming with this update ??

 

[Aisenherz]

You all like it?

 

[DarknessTear]

hmm

http://www.twonkyvision.com/Products/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Video: MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG2-TS, MPEG4, AVI, WMV, VOB, DivX, 3GP, VDR, ASF, MPE, DVR-MS, Xvid, M1V, M4V

How does DLNA work? does the client (PS3) have to decode the stream? Or does the DLNA-server convert in realtime to a format the client (PS3) can show?

No mkv huh? Weep weep weep. :'(