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(PS3Linux) Open Platform for PS3 - site open with instructions
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-zoom works for me but it uses software scaling and thus the video play slows down pretty noticably. Not only that you get some kind of weird scan lines going (or some type of vertical bars). With only x11 video mode supported at the moment looks like video play will be somewhat crippled for anything that isn't the native reso of your TV/Monitor.iapetus said:
SleazyC said:
Well, that's what you've got to expect when you don't have hardware scaling. You might be able to get better performance by using a different scaling mode. From the documentation:
−sws <software scaler type> (also see −vf scale and −zoom)
Specify the software scaler algorithm to be used with the −zoom option. This affects video output drivers which lack hardware acceleration, e.g. x11.
Available types are:
0 - fast bilinear
1 - bilinear
2 - bicubic (good quality) (default)
3 - experimental
4 - nearest neighbor (bad quality)
5 - area
6 - luma bicubic / chroma bilinear
7 - gauss
8 - sincR
9 - lanczos
10 - natural bicubic spline
NOTE: Some −sws options are tunable. The description of the scale video filter has further information.
SleazyC said:
You may find you can get either better performance or better quality from one of the above options. Try fast bilinear, perhaps.
Thanks I'll give this a try in a bit and get back to you with what happens.iapetus said:
EDIT - Ok played around with -sws and it did full screen without those weird scan lines/vertical bars but it still looks like software scaling for an h.264 file is out of the question. I did try a normal xvid file and it seemed to work fine with fast bilinear albeit I could pick out a tiny bit of video degredation (wasn't enough to bother me at the least). At this point my PS3 has a bit over my old modded Xbox running XMBC as it can play some of the xvid encoded files without slowdown. Not sure if I would replace my Xbox though seeing as it still can't play h.264 in full screen. Hopefully some of the smarter linux users out there (I'm a noob) can come out with better methods.
hi there,
i have a couple of questions about YDL and which ps3 i should use for it.
Right now, i can either open a 20gb or a 60gb. I would like to keep the 20gb because i save money and don't need wifi as i like using a wired connection. But you can only allocate 10gb so would 10/10 be enough for the ps3 os and linux? like demoes,trailers/save files/download content be fine with 10gb? I will probably upgrade the HDD but not for awhile.
Also, i read that i need to have the file install other os file on a cd or flash drive. I don't have any blank cds just dvds and don't really want to waste a dvd on the file. Can i use my ipod as a storage device to transfer the file??
Also, i know the link to the tutorial of installing it is somewhere in the thread but i dont know where. Can someone post a link again?
one last thing, is it easily to complie mplayer? where can i read about compiling it? i never compiled anything before. Is it possible for someone to make their own compilers and then post the file on the net so us linux newbies don't have to?
thanks.
i have a couple of questions about YDL and which ps3 i should use for it.
Right now, i can either open a 20gb or a 60gb. I would like to keep the 20gb because i save money and don't need wifi as i like using a wired connection. But you can only allocate 10gb so would 10/10 be enough for the ps3 os and linux? like demoes,trailers/save files/download content be fine with 10gb? I will probably upgrade the HDD but not for awhile.
Also, i read that i need to have the file install other os file on a cd or flash drive. I don't have any blank cds just dvds and don't really want to waste a dvd on the file. Can i use my ipod as a storage device to transfer the file??
Also, i know the link to the tutorial of installing it is somewhere in the thread but i dont know where. Can someone post a link again?
one last thing, is it easily to complie mplayer? where can i read about compiling it? i never compiled anything before. Is it possible for someone to make their own compilers and then post the file on the net so us linux newbies don't have to?
thanks.
mackaveli said:
I think you mean "binaries" not "compilers" (somebody already "made their own compilers and posted them on the net", it's called the Gnu Compiler Collection :lol ). But anyway on a more serious note, yes, assuming YDL has some sensible package management system, it should be possible for someone to create a binary package for it. It helps that the hardware is identical in everyone's case of course.
StopMakingSense
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You know what will be cool, when the wiili guys finish their linux driver for the wiimote, and somebody creates a very nice wiimote-enabled interface for mplayer/vlc.
All the basic stuff required to compile things are already installed when you install YDL. MPlayer is pretty easy to compile but if you don't want to deal with that someone can always send you binary...mackaveli said:
10G for PS3, imo, is very little unless you do not plan to keep demos around and don't plan to install too many games to HDD imo. With my 60G drive, after PS3 reserve some space for whatever reasons (caching?), and 10G for Linux I had about 48G usable. After install RR7 and download all the demos I'm in the mid 30G already.
Installing the kboot stuff can be done through flash drive. I'm not sure what PS3 and Ipod's connectivity status is though.
I'm another 20 GB owner and I'd love to have Linux installed on the system. You guys think its viable on a 20 GB model overall? I don't mind not having all the space for demos and videos,I don't even keep that many on my 360 so I'm sure the same will go for the PS3 for me. A little Mame and PS3 game saves is pretty much what I would have on the hard drive anyways.
How does one go about "installing" a game to the hard drive? You guys are actually installing the games? Which ones do this? I own Resistance and Untold Legends and don't remember reading anything in their manuals about doing something like this. I assume the load times are reduced after installing the games. How much so?
How does one go about "installing" a game to the hard drive? You guys are actually installing the games? Which ones do this? I own Resistance and Untold Legends and don't remember reading anything in their manuals about doing something like this. I assume the load times are reduced after installing the games. How much so?
Only certain games allow for "installation." Ridge Racer is one of them and its not actually a full install its just parts of the game are installed to speed up load time. Not sure how popular this will be with developers but it is totally optional.Angelus said:
As far as installing Linux on your PS3 goes, you can always use an external HD and install Linux there if you are worried about space constraints.
Blimblim said:The goal here would be to have an ultimate all in one video player (like XBMC but capable of HD playback too). So rebooting back to XBM to play a H.264 video is a tad annoying
fair enough I guess.
I'm betting on Sony delivering most of that in XMB, but perhaps without the Divx stuff. Which hopefully can be done with some kind of server side transcodePS3 style app.
Sony won't ever deliver anything that could match XBMC feature set, and no one is expecting them to. They can't support WMV files, I doubt they'll be get the license for QT Sorenson files, they wouln't ever support .SRT files, or MKV for that matter. This is the type of thing I take for granted when using XBMC, and so far besides using a computer hooked up on my PC nothing has been able to do this for HD.mrklaw said:
It looks like the PS3 framebuffer is fast enough for 720p playback, so at worse "just" optimizing the H.264/VC1 codecs for Cell, along with a Cell accelerated resizing algorithm should be good enough for all our needs. Of course being able to use RSX for video acceleration would be much better.
Blimblim said:
Do you mean just at the moment? Or is there a restriction on that (bandwidth or otherwise) that makes you think optimised implementations could not support 1080p +? Barring any restrictions, there's a lot of bandwidth to main memory, and an awful lot of internal bandwidth to LS etc. Assuming it is leveraged over time, Cell should be plenty for media playback functionality with a lot of headroom. It's pretty exciting to think what could be done over time, actually.
BTW, I have seen some interest expressed in porting ffmpeg to Cell by a few people, so hopefully something nice comes of that
I saw some specific discussion of strategies for splitting h.264 decoding over the SPEs.Well people are saying that they can play video in full screen when they use a fast resizing algorithmn, so it proves that the PS3 linux has enough bandwidth to send a full size framebuffer smoothly.gofreak said:
Edit: As far as I can tell there has been no recent discussion about cell/ps3 in the ffmpeg-devel mailing list.
That sounds fantastic. I hope that we really get some nice results as if we can take advantage of all the SPEs when not only decoding h.264 but all sorts of encoded video files I am sure that it could replace XBMC (supported coded-wise, not interface wise) in my book.gofreak said:
StopMakingSense
Member
Y2Kevbug11 said:So who wants to write up a step by step guide for me to install linux and get ZSNES running.
I imagine ZSNES wont be possible, as it is written primariliy in x86 assembly.
It might be, I tried earlier after reading up on some people getting it working on PPC architectures but spent about an hour and a half looking for some libraries and just gave up. I am pretty sure that some of our more experienced linux users could get it up running.StopMakingSense said:
StopMakingSense
Member
SleazyC said:
Oh hey, whatdayaknow? Color me surprised.
an introduction of sorts..
linux on ps3 is one of the main reason i got one. i've been using an 800mhz celeron, 128 ram, 14 gig hdd, etc., for the past 6 years. SO, i'm going to install this and use ps3 as my pc and throw out the old one.. i only need a pc for word processing, web browsing, openoffice, printing, etc.
anyways, i can't download a file this large, don't have a dvd-burner, and i'm also low on cash and can't drop $50 for the retal version of yellow dog later this month. is anyone willing to burn me a copy onto dvd and send it to me? i'll pay postage. i'll post impressions, troubles, pics, installation issues, short vids, everything.. i've never used linux and am basically a casual pc user with limited knowledge so this should be interesting. i need to get this setup and stable for regular use before january.
linux on ps3 is one of the main reason i got one. i've been using an 800mhz celeron, 128 ram, 14 gig hdd, etc., for the past 6 years. SO, i'm going to install this and use ps3 as my pc and throw out the old one.. i only need a pc for word processing, web browsing, openoffice, printing, etc.
anyways, i can't download a file this large, don't have a dvd-burner, and i'm also low on cash and can't drop $50 for the retal version of yellow dog later this month. is anyone willing to burn me a copy onto dvd and send it to me? i'll pay postage. i'll post impressions, troubles, pics, installation issues, short vids, everything.. i've never used linux and am basically a casual pc user with limited knowledge so this should be interesting. i need to get this setup and stable for regular use before january.
UltraMagnanimous
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ORANGUTAN said:
There's sure to be many others like you... are there any issues with putting a PS3 linux distro (& apps) on a disc and selling through eBay? Some enterprising individual* could easily make a few quid.
*I'm lazy.
Can any Linux gurus help me with this one?
Anytime I try to install a RPM file it stops the installer with an error "Unable to retrieve software information" and says something about checking network connections. Firefox has no problem browsing the web so I'm at a complete loss.
tia
Anytime I try to install a RPM file it stops the installer with an error "Unable to retrieve software information" and says something about checking network connections. Firefox has no problem browsing the web so I'm at a complete loss.
tia
DHGamer said:
The YDL repositories aren't up yet - try editing the file that points at the respository (I don't know what it is offhand, sorry, maybe someone else can be more specific...I'll post again if I boot into Linux before someone else replies) and aim it at your install DVD for now.
Edit: You want to edit /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-base.repo, mount your DVD drive to a directory and add a baseurl line to the file (for example, mine is mounted at /mnt/cdrom/, so I added the line baseurl=file:///mnt/cdrom/)
Phoenix: There're some Java rpm's on the DVD but I haven't looked into it. What do you need to know?
Phoenix
Member
Argyle said:
Yeah that's the nasty crappy GNU Java which is dog ass slow, old and barely compatible with anything. Sun does distribute the source to their JVM now. One can get the source from: https://openjdk.dev.java.net/ or more specifically https://openjdk.dev.java.net/hotspot/faq.html
You can pull the source right out of subversion.
If people can get that to work, there is significant interest
Phoenix said:Yeah that's the nasty crappy GNU Java which is dog ass slow, old and barely compatible with anything. Sun does distribute the source to their JVM now. One can get the source from: https://openjdk.dev.java.net/ or more specifically https://openjdk.dev.java.net/hotspot/faq.html
You can pull the source right out of subversion.
If people can get that to work, there is significant interest
I might give it a try later tonight. Stay tuned.
Phoenix said:Yeah that's the nasty crappy GNU Java which is dog ass slow, old and barely compatible with anything. Sun does distribute the source to their JVM now. One can get the source from: https://openjdk.dev.java.net/ or more specifically https://openjdk.dev.java.net/hotspot/faq.html
You can pull the source right out of subversion.
If people can get that to work, there is significant interest
I took a quick look and it appears to me that what is in there is really set up to run on x86 only right now.
Since I'm guessing that getting it to run on PPC will take some effort (and since I personally am not that interested in getting it to work)...well, I think I'm going to bed now...sorry
No, no, and no. ZSNES is x86 only, for the quoted reason: it's an x86 ASM app at its core. Yes, they've been working on converting various parts to C, but it's still a heavily arch-specific program(81% as of 1.43). Until the intel switch, thread posters on the ZSNES forums who ignored the FAQ and asked about a Mac port would get locked on the spot.
Bottom line: If you want to run ZSNES on a PPC, you have to do it emulating an x86 machine, period.
You mean AC3 passthrough? Mplayer does it, and it does multispeaker output.mxz said:
BTW, dig through `man mplayer` or the online docs as the mplayer devs won't give you the time of day. They're assholes, seriously.
For interested programmers, there's an article here on cross-compiling for your PS3 - coding and developing executables on a PC that will run on your PS3.
http://www.cellperformance.com/articles/2006/11/crosscompiling_for_ps3_linux.html
It's probably not a big leap to set it up to do this over a network..
http://www.cellperformance.com/articles/2006/11/crosscompiling_for_ps3_linux.html
It's probably not a big leap to set it up to do this over a network..
need help, i cant get the other os installer working
i made a folder with ps3 then a folder otheros in it
and put the otheros.self and otheros.bld file in it
i put it on my ipod mini then connected it to my ps3. It detects the otheros.self file anad takes me to the install screen i press accept and so forth but then it says data is corrupt and wont install.
edit- im a mac if that does anything. Also i burnt it on a cd-rw from a mac in finder and it doesnt even detect the installer so i can't even get to the screen. I don't have a memory stick or cd-r or dvd-r to burn it on to.
I only have my ipod mini, shuffle or cd-rw to use it. i dont know why it says data is corrupt.
edit- what does The folder and/or file name contains no double-byte character. mean? i dont know what single-byte characters are. can someone host the .bld file for me for ydl maybe the site one is corrupted i dont know.
i made a folder with ps3 then a folder otheros in it
and put the otheros.self and otheros.bld file in it
i put it on my ipod mini then connected it to my ps3. It detects the otheros.self file anad takes me to the install screen i press accept and so forth but then it says data is corrupt and wont install.
edit- im a mac if that does anything. Also i burnt it on a cd-rw from a mac in finder and it doesnt even detect the installer so i can't even get to the screen. I don't have a memory stick or cd-r or dvd-r to burn it on to.
I only have my ipod mini, shuffle or cd-rw to use it. i dont know why it says data is corrupt.
edit- what does The folder and/or file name contains no double-byte character. mean? i dont know what single-byte characters are. can someone host the .bld file for me for ydl maybe the site one is corrupted i dont know.
BlueTsunami
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Its probably been posted already but YDL for the PS3 has been out in the regular spots for Torrent releases.
Just get Bittorrent and download the Install Disk/s
Just get Bittorrent and download the Install Disk/s
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