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[TheRealTalker]

No idea, but hopefully things like suspend, DLNA and MP3 stuff is in the next update.

Just imagine if
Sony had some insanely amazing update after their launch update but after the back lash they where just like... "well I guess we could push back this update for this other one"


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[Jburton]

No idea, but hopefully things like suspend, DLNA and MP3 stuff is in the next update.

Would it be correct to assume that suspend / resume is working but not 100%, hence the delay?

 

[TTOOLL]

Is there any anything related to hardware that may prevent Sony to enable DLNA?

 

[msdstc]

I had a second confirmation last night so it'll come. It's just a shame they got Music Unlimited up first, but the appropriate backlash has at least gotten a couple of responses out of them rather than flat out ignoring it like they used to.

Thank you so much! I've been one of the biggest whiners in this thread, but I really think letting them know is the most important thing we can do. is there any idea of how long that window is? And why the hell was it left out in the first place?

 

[borghe]

Would it be correct to assume that suspend / resume is working but not 100%, hence the delay?

they've been talking about it non-stop since February. Of course it's working but not 100% heh. Better question is "what percent?" Hopefully like 95-98%, not like 5-15%.

just thinking back to things like "XMB while in a game".... shudder...........

 

[btkadams]

I had a second confirmation last night so it'll come. It's just a shame they got Music Unlimited up first, but the appropriate backlash has at least gotten a couple of responses out of them rather than flat out ignoring it like they used to.

For both, actually. I wouldn't be shocked to see some priorities get shuffled because of this.

Right, especially if we're looking at launch firmware.

No idea, but hopefully things like suspend, DLNA and MP3 stuff is in the next update.

wow, this is great to hear! i hope it comes in the next update as well.

 

[BloodMoney]

For both, actually. I wouldn't be shocked to see some priorities get shuffled because of this.

great news

 

[Lordwindowlicker]

Music Unlimited can go to hell.

Luckily, I have other devices on which I can play CDs and Mp3s.

 

[Tsundere]

Not the same thing.

Eh, the whole MP3 issue is due to the fact that you can't play them in the background, not that you can't play them at all. The functionality to send the audio feed from another application while a game/other app is being used is already in place.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I highly doubt they will ignore the outcry at this critical stage

Not for features that are this simple to implement

Wont be there at launch though

 

[Mindlog]

I had a second confirmation last night so it'll come. It's just a shame they got Music Unlimited up first, but the appropriate backlash has at least gotten a couple of responses out of them rather than flat out ignoring it like they used to.

Happy to hear. Gaming and podcasts are an excellent combination.

 

[Tsundere]

Should update the OP with all that sweet Kagari goodness.

 

[curb]

No idea, but hopefully things like suspend, DLNA and MP3 stuff is in the next update.

As much as I'd like MP3 playback for custom soundtracks, it's minor to me. I hope suspend/resume is priority #1.

 

[msdstc]

wow, this is great to hear! i hope it comes in the next update as well.

Can we get these posts in the OP and the thread title changed?

 

[btkadams]

yeah, i'm definitely not resubscribing to music unlimited then. the service would actually be tempting if it offered an itunes match function as well (letting you upload your own music that the service doesn't have), but it's really undesirable for me in its current state.

 

[phosphor112]

No idea, but hopefully things like suspend, DLNA and MP3 stuff is in the next update.

Can't forget HDCP.

 

[Kagari]

Would it be correct to assume that suspend / resume is working but not 100%, hence the delay?

That would be a correct assumption.

Can't forget HDCP.

Yeah, hopefully that comes soon as well although I'll stick to Twitch myself.

 

[DrROBschiz]

They ever going to ease up on the External HDD situation?

Pretty sure lots of people stick run media from portable drives as well

Seems silly such standard PS3 features are omitted in PS4.

Launch Rush priorities i guess

 

[BloodMoney]

Eh, the whole MP3 issue is due to the fact that you can't play them in the background, not that you can't play them at all. The functionality to send the audio feed from another application while a game/other app is being used is already in place.

I'm more concerned with simply playing music from my media center (gaming PC in separate area of the house) through the PS4 which feeds audio into my home theater system. I'm less concerned with playing music in the background of games.

 

[Kagari]

They ever going to ease up on the External HDD situation?

Pretty sure lots of people stick run media from portable drives as well

Seems silly such standard PS3 features are omitted in PS4.

Launch Rush priorities i guess

Isn't the external HDD stuff only for game data?

 

[dallow_bg]

Isn't the external HDD stuff only for game data?

You can hook up an external drive?
The FAQ sounds like a no.

Though I imagine you have to if you want to backup and restore.
Those options still need to be in there no?

 

[Yazuka]

Well that's great!
Now crossing my fingers mp3s will work ingame too...

 

[Jburton]

That would be a correct assumption.



Yeah, hopefully that comes soon as well although I'll stick to Twitch myself.

Thanks for the responses, much appreciated.

 

[Zoe]

Eh, the whole MP3 issue is due to the fact that you can't play them in the background, not that you can't play them at all. The functionality to send the audio feed from another application while a game/other app is being used is already in place.

Not really. Because that wouldn't exclude other formats from being used.

 

[Goodacre0081]

are we looking at an early 2014 update here? there was a statement about the headsets being updated around that time.

http://onehitpixel.com/2013/10/25/p...his-year-but-could-slip-into-early-2014/48868

 

[binarymelon]

For both, actually. I wouldn't be shocked to see some priorities get shuffled because of this.

This is great news.

 

[shouamabane]

This whole thing makes me wonder how good the PS4 Blu-Ray playback is. PS3 is still a great media player.

 

[biggersmaller]

I had a second confirmation last night so it'll come. It's just a shame they got Music Unlimited up first, but the appropriate backlash has at least gotten a couple of responses out of them rather than flat out ignoring it like they used to.

I can begrudgingly understand from a business standpoint introducing Music Unlimited at launch, with mp3/DLNA later. What I wouldn't have tolerated was the original assumption that it was stopping DLNA/mp3 from ever happening.

Whether that FAQ was just a poor communication of what was available at launch, or the community response convinced Sony to include DLNA/mp3 when they otherwise wouldn't have at all...the world may never know.

 

[Tsundere]

Not really. Because that wouldn't exclude other formats from being used.

That's more the fact that, the background music player for other formats hasn't been written for the OS yet.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

This whole thing makes me wonder how good the PS4 Blu-Ray playback is. PS3 is still a great media player.

I've pretty much decided for streaming and Blu-ray, I'm going to keep the PS3 anyway for that reason.

It would just be nice for PS4 to have the same features PS3 had.

 

[msdstc]

I'm more concerned with simply playing music from my media center (gaming PC in separate area of the house) through the PS4 which feeds audio into my home theater system. I'm less concerned with playing music in the background of games.

Same here... it has nothing to do with in game music, although that would be nice if they had that. THat being said, there is absolutely no excuse for no .mp3 support... there was no struggle trying to get it to work, they tried to sell their product, period. Luckily they realized we didn't take well to it, and hopefully it's soon after release, not months.

 

[borghe]

You can hook up an external drive?
The FAQ sounds like a no.

Though I imagine you have to if you want to backup and restore.
Those options still need to be in there no?

correct. Their HD Q/A almost definitely speaks to "game storage", not "if you hook up a USB HDD time will end". If changing HDDs is there at launch, backup/restore is there at launch and needs USB storage.

 

[teiresias]

Right, especially if we're looking at launch firmware.

To be honest, the problem isn't even so much that the functionality isn't in the shipping or Day 1 firmware, or that it may not come for a number of months.

The problem is that the FAQ was specifically worded in such a way that it made it sound like the issue was done and finished and the answer was "Nope, you're not getting DLNA and you're not getting MP3s, here's Music Unlimited instead - subscribe or no music for you."

Pile on top of that that asinine contest about Music Unlimited posted on the EU Blog and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it's an absolute tone-deaf way to approach this issue.

There wouldn't have been nearly any outcry if the FAQ had simply said, "Not at launch but in a future firmware," which it did say for certain things, but didn't say that for DLNA or MP3 playback, so why the discrepancy? I don't doubt your sources, but I can't imagine the language in the FAQ wasn't parsed enough to realize that wording would be a problem. If it was just overlooked whoever apparently just recently got promoted in the PR department in Sony needs to be demoted back to wherever they came from because they're completely screwing up the company's messaging with weeks to go until launch.

 

[Massa]

I can begrudgingly understand from a business standpoint introducing Music Unlimited at launch, with mp3/DLNA later. What I wouldn't have tolerated was the original assumption that it was stopping DLNA/mp3 from ever happening.

Whether that FAQ was just a poor communication of what was available at launch, or the community response convinced Sony to include DLNA/mp3 when they otherwise wouldn't have at all...the world may never know.

I don't believe Sony is a company where Playstation would gimp their product for the benefit of another division's product.

 

[Deadstar]

Can I remote play my vita which is playing an mp3 through the ps4 while playing a ps4 game?

 

[Uncle Ulty]

Pre-cancel Unordered!!!

 

[plasmawave]

Can I remote play my vita which is playing an mp3 through the ps4 while playing a ps4 game?

Is that like inception or something?

 

[Archaix]

I don't believe Sony is a company where Playstation would gimp their product for the benefit of another division's product.

You...really...truly have far too much faith in Sony. And, for that matter, any company at all ever in history.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I had a second confirmation last night so it'll come. It's just a shame they got Music Unlimited up first, but the appropriate backlash has at least gotten a couple of responses out of them rather than flat out ignoring it like they used to.

Good stuff, what I had heard only covered DLNA, but I was assuming both would make a return post-launch.

Can I remote play my vita which is playing an mp3 through the ps4 while playing a ps4 game?

Mortimer will start his #PS4HaveMP3SUPPORT4VitaREMOTEPLAY4THEPLAYER campaign shortly.

Rolls off the tongue and everything.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Isn't the external HDD stuff only for game data?

According to the FAQ

External HDDs are not supported at all

"Will users be able to connect an external hard drive to expand storage on PS4?
No, this feature is not supported on PS4."

 

[Ascended Saiyan]

Can I remote play my vita which is playing an mp3 through the ps4 while playing a ps4 game?

Hahaha

Inception can't be done

 

[MMaRsu]

I don't believe Sony is a company where Playstation would gimp their product for the benefit of another division's product.

Then you dont know business.

 

[Tsundere]

According to the FAQ

External HDDs are not supported at all

"Will users be able to connect an external hard drive to expand storage on PS4?
No, this feature is not supported on PS4."

You can use external storage/USB to update your system, but you need to boot into safe mode to do it.

I suspect they haven't gotten around to setting up DRM for content that would be saved on external devices (movies/music/etc.) and is why this feature isn't supported at launch.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

According to the FAQ

External HDDs are not supported at all

"Will users be able to connect an external hard drive to expand storage on PS4?
No, this feature is not supported on PS4."

But wait, if I connect a USB-Stick to my PS3, I dont expand my storage, but I have the possibility to copy data from or to my PS3.

For me, this is something diffrent than expand my storage.

 

[KORNdoggy]

This is pretty off topic in regards to mp3s, but the PS4 supports 3D blu-rays, right?

 

[DrROBschiz]

Then you dont know business.

They need to make their money back somewhere

Losing money on PS4, Losing on PSplus to some degree I assume

They blocked using PS3 controllers and other peripherals for obvious reasons (its one of the areas where sony typically makes high margin returns)

I can't fault them too much but expect them to have to cave in on certain things to pursue profit guys. Nature of the beast.

 

[plasmawave]

So I guess Xbone doesn't support these features too considering Nelson never got back to us about it.
And considering how quick they said that the Xbone has suspend and sleep mode after Sony said it wasn't going to be ready for launch.

 

[DrROBschiz]

But wait, if I connect a USB-Stick to my PS3, I dont expand my storage, but I have the possibility to copy data from or to my PS3.

For me, this is something diffrent than expand my storage.

Hmmm

This is an area that really needs clarity

I assume they do not have and form of media player right?

I remember the Fact sheet for PS3 showing off all the media formats it supported for playback. Is there any such listing for PS4?

 

[TheRealTalker]

This is pretty off topic in regards to mp3s, but the PS4 supports 3D blu-rays, right?

Yes and 3D compatible games too but there is non at launch (for games)

 

[Audible Phonetics]

This is pretty off topic in regards to mp3s, but the PS4 supports 3D blu-rays, right?

It does read 3D Bluray discs