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PS4 does movie level cgi visuals. eyeball gif fiesta.
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Metalmurphy
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Pachterballs
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texture mapped rubble vs what is probably procedural geometry.
just amazing.
and I don't remember UC2 looking that jagged but the AA+DOF in the KZ shot is also nice.
just amazing.
and I don't remember UC2 looking that jagged but the AA+DOF in the KZ shot is also nice.
RustyNails
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So basically the biggest thing to take away is that pre-rendered cg scenes will become obsolete in next gen?
FairXchange
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Yeah Killzone looks incredible, I just hope they get rid of that black and white effect when shot. It sucks away all the colour, and makes the image dull.
SneakyStephan
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Watch dogs really doesn't belong in there.
It's a cross gen title and while it looks good it clearly shows that it's made for ps3 as well.
The geometry in killzone is MIND BLOWING, watch dogs looks like a spruced up pc port of a ps3 game (because that is what it is)
The draw distance is also awful in watchdogs, everything hidden behind that typical depth of field shroud, the current gen version of psx fog.
I've been longing for a meaningful increase in geometry detail for so long. (not just tesselation crap on walls and stairs in boxy buildings)
It's a cross gen title and while it looks good it clearly shows that it's made for ps3 as well.
The geometry in killzone is MIND BLOWING, watch dogs looks like a spruced up pc port of a ps3 game (because that is what it is)
The draw distance is also awful in watchdogs, everything hidden behind that typical depth of field shroud, the current gen version of psx fog.
I've been longing for a meaningful increase in geometry detail for so long. (not just tesselation crap on walls and stairs in boxy buildings)
No it was not, if you watch the after-show on Gametrailers, the developer from watch dogs says that the footage was from PC....so don't shit your pants yet
But what will Square Enix fill a 50GB BluRay with?
Videogames will never have CG level graphics. Never.
You need a freakin render farm to render just a few seconds of any CG movie you see, there won't be a console/PC capable of doing it real time in a bazillion years.
It was confirmed...
Raven77
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1. It CLEARLY looks next gen. If you don't believe so, well you're allowed to believe that the moon is made of cheese, doesn't mean you're right.
2. FOR THE THIRTIETH TIME TODAY:
The DEEP DOWN demo was done, in game, real time, using Capcom's new Panta Rhei development engine. IT WAS NOT A CG MOVIE...
2. FOR THE THIRTIETH TIME TODAY:
The DEEP DOWN demo was done, in game, real time, using Capcom's new Panta Rhei development engine. IT WAS NOT A CG MOVIE...
SneakyStephan
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Where was this said (original official source, not he said she said) that it was real time (not just in engine! , real time)
I'd love for it to be true that fire looked incredible but I'm skeptical it looks too good for even a tech demo.
IonicSnake
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But it wasn't CG so it's still kinda true.
KojiKnight
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Remember the early PS3 "tech demos" that were bullshotted to hell and back?
My advice is to keep a record of all of these images/gifs now and we'll see if everything pans out in the end. I won't cry whether they are real or not, just a reminder that developers have ways of making their previews look better than the final product...
My advice is to keep a record of all of these images/gifs now and we'll see if everything pans out in the end. I won't cry whether they are real or not, just a reminder that developers have ways of making their previews look better than the final product...
It has flaws in rendering that you don't get in CG. The bloom and depth of field bleed and shimmer a lot.
Betta Lines
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They will be 'near enough' within the next 10 years. How many years exactly depends entirely on the viewer's eye for detail, or knowledge about rendering. Some people will not be able to notice the difference already, more knowledgeable types will take a few more years to be fooled. Those who know what to look for might only be fooled occasionally, but it will happen.
every game on the presentation was running on a pc.....with the console specs..... so yeah, watch dogs was running on ps4 hardware......
BurnOutBrighter
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No, it's real time because of the obvious video rendering artifacts - aliasing, shadow stepping, depth of field clipping, to name a few.
It's either too good or not good enough.
All we need is confirmation, Capcom.
Raven77
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Even if not real time, it was definitely In Engine.
Remember, when the PS3 was revealed a somewhat similar in engine demo was done with Unreal Engine 3, and look how much better UE3 games looked after a few years.
Meaning, if the same trend occurs here, games in 2-3+ years will look even better than the Deep Down in engine demo.
Remember, when the PS3 was revealed a somewhat similar in engine demo was done with Unreal Engine 3, and look how much better UE3 games looked after a few years.
Meaning, if the same trend occurs here, games in 2-3+ years will look even better than the Deep Down in engine demo.
stufte
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We've already surpassed CGI from the mid 90's. There is no reason to think that we wouldn't be able to keep doing that.
For reference: look at Jurassic Park. Or the intro to "Amazing Stories". Etc, etc. Those were done on render farms and took HOURS to render 1 frame. Now games can easily replicate that CGI in real-time.
Or hell, ANY pre-rendered CGI cut scene from any ps1 (and some ps2) games. The pre-rendered backgrounds in FFIV could easily be done in real-time these days.
We're also getting close to matching the CG from the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within flick.
Real time just means it was rendered... In real time. You're thinking of "in-game" which it was not. The main thing though is it wasn't CG which is important and very exciting.
That doesn't mean something like that isn't possible during actual gameplay. We probably won't see it at launch but once devs get to grips with the hardware it should be easily possible.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
So true. Some people really forget what CGI is about.
That's not CGI. That's real life.
deadcelledo
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Love the little detail in the date of the security camera there
Yes this is in-engine.
SunhiLegend
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stufte
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this is garbage to me. Fuck developers who put graphics over gameplay, you can't even see the enemies. fuck the people who like this type of crap, this is why gaming is in a massive decline.
stufte
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Holy god. Those gifs are bringing my browser to it's knees...could you link them instead perhaps?
stufte
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this is garbage to me. Fuck developers who put graphics over gameplay, you can't even see the enemies. fuck the people who like this type of crap, this is why gaming is in a massive decline.
Jeez. settle down there dude. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
Announcements.
No that's cgi...composited onto the actor.
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The Jason
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Yep, pretty amazing. But it happens all over the web.
In regard to the killzone video, someone was standing on stage playing, and it looked fantastic.
MoonLightWave
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the trailer demo was played at a much higher resolution. It's pretty much standard practices these days.
There are a bunch of direct feed shots on playstation blog at very high resolution 4k+ and Killzone: Shadowfall is supposed to run at 1080p.
I see what you are saying, but I wasn't talking about CG from that many years ago. CG had a huge jump in those years because technology advanced at light speed at that time, specially when it came to 3D rendering. While it continues to evolve, the curve is not as steep.
For example, look at a cinematic from Final Fantasy 7, and then look at a cinematic from Final Fantay X. While you will cringe at the FF7 ( 1997 ) one, you are still able to watch and appreciate any cutscene from final fantaxy X (2001) even after 12 years.
This is why it's not fair to compare PS4 graphics to such old CG.
Take a look at the latest Blur cinematic for Elder Scrolls Online. It's absolutely freaking incredible, you could show me some of the shots and say it's real and I would believe you, and I have a keen eye for these things since it's within my area of work.
I truly believe that none of us will live to see a game in real time with such detail, but I would love to be wrong
:lol :lol that got me good.
this is garbage to me. Fuck developers who put graphics over gameplay, you can't even see the enemies. fuck the people who like this type of crap, this is why gaming is in a massive decline.
It's violent carnage and war. It's likely because of people like you that the Killzone franchise keeps getting watered down. Too much bloody hand holding required in gaming these days. Eurgh...
stufte
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I see what you are saying, but I wasn't talking about CG from that many years ago. CG had a huge jump some years ago because technology advanced at light speed at that time, specially when it came to 3D rendering. While it continues to evolve, the curve is not as steep.
For example, look at a cinematic from Final Fantasy 7, and then look at a cinematic from Final Fantay X. While you will cringe at the FF7 ( 1997 ) one, you are still able to watch and appereciate any cutscene from final fantaxy X (2001) even after 12 years.
This is why it's not fair to compare PS4 graphics to such old CG.
Take a look at the latest Blur cinematic for Elder Scrolls Online. It's absolutely freaking incredible, you could show me some of the shots and say it's real and I would believe you, and I have a keen eye for these things since it's within my area of work.
I truly believe that none of us will live to see a game in real time with such detail, but I would love to be wrong
True that things have slowed down, but it'd be foolish to say that it'd *never* happen. I'd give it 15yrs TOPS till we are playing games with Blur levels of CG. But I'm sure by that time, people will be arguing on NeoULTRAGAF.com about how games will never look like the new Avatar 5 film.
True that things have slowed down, but it'd be foolish to say that it'd *never* happen. I'd give it 15yrs TOPS till we are playing games with Blur levels of CG. But I'm sure by that time, people will be arguing on NeoULTRAGAF.com about how games will never look like the new Avatar 5 film.
Yes, I'm exaggerating when I say it's never going to happen, but I really think it won't be 15 years from now, at least at the speed technology has been developing in the last years.
But hey, once again, I really hope you are right!
PlayALLtheGames
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fuck the people who like this type of crap
I like that type of crap.
Phonomezer
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this is garbage to me. Fuck developers who put graphics over gameplay, you can't even see the enemies. fuck the people who like this type of crap, this is why gaming is in a massive decline.
I think it looks great (before everything went grey and orange as per).
However you're right about the gameplay. It looked quite unexciting.
Messofanego
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this is garbage to me. Fuck developers who put graphics over gameplay, you can't even see the enemies. fuck the people who like this type of crap, this is why gaming is in a massive decline.
I'm with you, but it's more down to developers using the color palette and enemy colors. I hate this in Call of Duty or other modern military shooters where you can't tell apart the enemies from your allies because everyone's wearing brown/grey. Clearly, they're going for a more colorful look this time than previous games' post-processing to hell approach, so don't know why they're not making the enemies stand out against the palette.
it's crazy how much the GAF atmosphere changes when stuff like this occurs. i'm afraid to discuss anything with anyone right now
BadAss2961
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I've never had this problem with Killzone. Allies are usually facing one way, enemies the opposite. The Helghast also have bright glowing red eyes.
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