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Personally, I'd wait a couple years before making a call on the engineering. Lost too many consoles last generation.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
THere is no graphics card. Its on the same chip as the cpu which saves them a ton of money.What the hell, where is the RAM tucked away? And the graphics card? I only see a disc drive, the CPU fan and the HDD. Jesus Christ Sony.
ehh I work for Tiger Direct which means I build people computers and
you're wrong the FX chips are high end desktop cpu's that have 8 cores
the GPU is not mid rage its a high end with 8 Gddr5 memory not one GPU at my store
has that sooo yep.
Yield issues due to excessive heat.
It actually is very impressive to put an 8 core jaguar side by side to a 7850 like gpu on a single non large die along with memory controller, dsp, etc.A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
This..
I have 25% stronger gpu in my laptop and it even has a full hd screen now that is a engineering marvel. Did cost 3 times the ps4 :'(
It actually is very impressive to put an 8 core jaguar side by side to a 7850 like gpu on a single non large die along with memory controller, dsp, etc.
THis hasnt been done before with a gpu with this much power
So basically what you are saying is that if I wanted something with similar specs, I should go PS4 because it is far far cheaper than the equivalent gaming laptop?
It isn't though.
Yes, the PS4 is much better than any $400 PC for the foreseeable future.So basically what you are saying is that if I wanted something with similar specs, I should go PS4 because it is far far cheaper than the equivalent gaming PC?
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compareThe PS4, in comparison, has an 8-core Jaguar AMD CPU, with a GPU thats around the same level as the Radeon 7870 (which is significantly more powerful than the 7790). The PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, providing 176GB/s of bandwidth to both the CPU and GPU. The Xbox One mostly ameliorates this difference with 32MB of high-speed SRAM on the GPU, but it will be a more complex architecture to take advantage of.
While Nintendo preferred to design a very cost-efficient chip for the Wii U, both Sony and Microsoft wanted higher performance and both chose the same technology: semi-custom AMD Fusion system-on-chips with eight Jaguar general-purpose x86 cores, AMD Radeon HD GCN architecture-derived graphics processors and so on.
I'd say they're both pretty small technology wise.
Now that "50% more powerful" statement....I saw nothing games wise to support that at E3. We're just getting started though.
Don't know for sure now, but the Xbox One has the same power plug as the Xbox 360 S. The 360 S PSU was rated at just 135W...
I think it's Sony having better engineers. The One looks lazy for a custom PC even.
Same here, how long it lasts is the most important thing.Personally, I'd wait a couple years before making a call on the engineering. Lost too many consoles last generation.
Only enthusiast Clevos. They are 2.5" thick and have huge external 300W power bricks.
Only dual GPUs (780M and 8970M are both 100W), which are again, only found in enthusiast Clevos and the Alienware M18X. They are also 2" or greater, have huge external power bricks and cost 2000+. It's stupid to try and compare them.
Link?..this 100Gflops rating for the Jaguar CPU is not the same metric as a desktop CPU, someone on Beyond3D did the math, it's roughly equivalent to 40Gflops in PC desktop terms, or roughly the same as an AMD Quad Core Phenom II @3.2Ghz.
..still plenty of power with that GPU & GDDR5 bandwidth though, but 100Gflops is a little bit misleading TBH.
(obviously the same goes for the Xbone).
Have there been any E3 reports about PS4 noise and heat levels? A box that small concerns me but I dont know too much about this area.
Who presses a power button nowdays? Turn it on with a controllerWait until you see the Super Slim. You'll need a toothpick to operate the power button.
Just to remind people of what Sony is capable of doing.
Eh?.100 Gflops now are 40?.Right...this 100Gflops rating for the Jaguar CPU is not the same metric as a desktop CPU, someone on Beyond3D did the math, it's roughly equivalent to 40Gflops in PC desktop terms, or roughly the same as an AMD Quad Core Phenom II @3.2Ghz.
..still plenty of power with that GPU & GDDR5 bandwidth though, but 100Gflops is a little bit misleading TBH.
(obviously the same goes for the Xbone).
Who presses a power button nowdays? Turn it on with a controller
Link?
One of the first transistor radios. One of the most important technological breakthroughs.
Just making sure: Did you mean Mac Air?
Either way, this is from 2004:
Vaio X505 with nickle carbon body (Was expensive though).
Not really that surprising with what other stuff Sony makes.
And that first post is such a derailment of the thread.
It actually is very impressive to put an 8 core jaguar side by side to a 7850 like gpu on a single non large die along with memory controller, dsp, etc.
THis hasnt been done before with a gpu with this much power
Any chance the extra space in the X1 is simply to allow for more airflow and/or additional space between components? I could see them going into this generation paranoid about a red-ring repeat.
Pfft try again.
and yes the power supply is inside.
Eh?.100 Gflops now are 40?.Right.
Makes me wonder if there will be a final PSThree revision next year the size of the Wii with GP+CPU SOC. We know Sony wants to sell the PS3 for another 3-5 years and this latest slim is ugly as sin and looks like a stop gap to make Sony some money.
I love everything about the design of the PS4. The angles, the gloss, the matte, the smoothness, the vents, everything.
But I've been wondering one thing, could there be some hidden design elements that we're unaware of, because every time I look at it, I can't help but imaging a hidden LED area on the console.
I've highlighted the area I'm talking about. What if that area could display the game you're playing, game update alerts, downloads, and other notifications? I hadn't read anything about it in the specs, so it's unlikely but I still can't help but think that it would be perfect.
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It's somewhere in this thread..
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62936
I think i remember reading it a couple of months back, but can't be sure.
80 odd pages to wade through if you want to find it though..
Every source, including CBOAT, has been saying the eSRAM is a huge heat issue for the Xbox One.
Who presses a power button nowdays? Turn it on with a controller
You saw something on Xone that equaled Killzone: Shadow Fall, The Order 1886, Infamous Second Son and The Dark Sorcerer? Link please.
I'm a bit surprised the Xbone HDD mount uses actual cables for the power and SATA connection. Surely there's a surface mount, right-angle integrated solution for that by now for integrated systems so that the power tracing goes through the mobo directly to the connectors? Granted, I've never looked into it, so I could be off-base. That's just the first thing that stood out to me.
I refuse to believe that PS4 has an internal PSU. I just refuse.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.