I'm a bit surprised the Xbone HDD mount uses actual cables for the power and SATA connection. Surely there's a surface mount, right-angle integrated solution for that by now for integrated systems so that the power tracing goes through the mobo directly to the connectors? Granted, I've never looked into it, so I could be off-base. That's just the first thing that stood out to me.
Second post is lame!
It's not the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean.
It's supposed to run quiet...or something, I dunnoWow, is that a real photo of the inside of the Xbox One? Gross. So much wasted space.
I think assembly of Xbox One is much easier which leads to reduced cost. And RROD shouldn't happen, such a big vents and so much space inside.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
They also doubled the number of cores with that change, from 4 to 8. Looking at the rear of the PS4 I'm doubtful that it'll have heat issues with that many vents.Going from 3.2 Ghz down to 1.6 Ghz alone makes designing a console with less heat output a lot easier. I know clockspeed isn't the only factor, but it is a huge one.
It's a netbook CPU?A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
I hope it doesn't have this problem. Though I won't be buying at launch anyway.
Though the Gamecube was pretty damn powerful and extremely tightly packed. And I dont recall it getting super hot/loud or failing.
It really is. I love how easy I am to please.A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
First post nails it.
The 4 core version of it is. The 8 core version is only in next gen consoles.It's a netbook CPU?
They also doubled the number of cores with that change, from 4 to 8. Looking at the rear of the PS4 I'm doubtful that it'll have heat issues with that many vents.
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Wasn't the Xbox 360 also manufactured by Foxconn? I don't think they have anything to do with durability of the hardware. They just stick the pieces together.Foxconn making this things is a great new to me, because they manufacture really good pieces of hardware. I really hope PS4 won't suffer from heat on that tiny box.
I hope it doesn't have this problem. Though I won't be buying at launch anyway.
Though the Gamecube was pretty damn powerful and extremely tightly packed. And I dont recall it getting super hot/loud or failing.
Bigger box = more expensive. When you see a device needing a massive cooling solution, you don't think "that's cheap".
Oh, didn't realize you we're talking about Cell. I thought you were referring to the fact that they were initially aiming for a quad core bulldozer but that wouldn't have been ready on time.Well the PS3's Cell was technically an 8 core processor that weren't really cores. Not sure how hot the SPUs made the Cell run though.
Do we know how it compares to the 4 core version?also wouldn't the compute functions of the PS4's GPU free up much more CPU time?The 4 core version of it is. The 8 core version is only in next gen consoles.
Big coolers and a simple design that is easy to put together that means it is cheap. Powerful laptops have pretty expensive cooling because of all the (more expensive) copper heat pipes and copper fins while bigger coolers use a lot more aluminium which is far cheaper.
To me it seems like Sony and MS had two different design philosophies.
MS: How much heat will it produce? What's the easiest way to dissipate the heat? Right we got that down, what should the shell look like?
Sony: We want it to be as small as possible and sleek, here's some rough concept designs, go at it you fabulous engineers.
Its a cpu made for the lower powered segment. It will be fine for consoles. 100+ gflops in cpu power is fine enough. Gpu compute will handle the intense stuff like physics and all that. Theres no cause to be alarmed. Its a console cpu. It doesnt need the generap overall power u would need on a typical desktop cpu.It's a netbook CPU?
Nintendo Magic.
still a sexy little box, says I.
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bonus round: GB Micro naked:
To me it seems like Sony and MS had two different design philosophies.
MS: How much heat will it produce? What's the easiest way to dissipate the heat? Right we got that down, what should the shell look like?
Sony: We want it to be as small as possible and sleek, here's some rough concept designs, go at it you fabulous engineers.
To be fair, the Xbox One is not as huge in person as it appears in photos. FWIW
Show me a PC (same specs, of course) that fits into the case and is priced at 400/$, please.First post nails it.
The Gamecube was the far more durable machine.Pfft try again.
and yes the power supply is inside.
To be fair, the Xbox One is not as huge in person as it appears in photos. FWIW
I guess the Mac Pro must be engineering black fucking magic then.
Pfft try again.
and yes the power supply is inside.
The 4 core version of it is. The 8 core version is only in next gen consoles.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
I'm really stoked to see the internals of the PS4 and how it compares to the Xbox because I believe Sony engineers used magic arranging the innards of the console.