Incitemaybe
Member
Everytime I see this thread I think it's out (would've made these days waiting for Zelda and Switch much much more bearable).
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PS4 System Software Update 4.50 Features Detailed
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Goose_Se7en
Banned
I know I'm not the only one. I was able to stop the audio skipping on HZD by moving it to the internal storage.
endlessflood
Member
Wait, it's two separate disks? Is this a RAID enclosure? Do the two drives appear as one logical drive?
Welp this is disappointing.
holygeesus
Banned
I get occasional jittering on Resident Evil 7 too but I don't know if it is the game or my external SSD. I might have to move it to the internal to test. Pretty disappointing if it is the case, as we won't be able to actually use external storage as anything else than a dumping ground for games, that will always have to be moved to the internal before playing.
endlessflood
Member
Is that a single platter? If it's multiple drives inside a single enclosure then it sounds like it's possible you could run into some issues.
Something like this but I'm not sure about Seagate. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HAPGEIE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
I use a WD Elements 2TB. I've seen some little stuttering at the beginning intro in Just Cause 3. I can try to move it back to the internal SSHD and see if it also happens over there. Going to install Horizon today internal and look how it runs, and then move it to external and do a little benchmarking.
holygeesus
Banned
OK I moved RE7 back to the internal SSHD and the jittering seems to be gone, but the load times are horrendous compared to an external SSD so I might live with it until I get a larger internal SSD at a later date. Does seem odd that external drives should have this jittering though.
Theonik
Member
Is this a standard PS4 or a Pro?
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Is the external drive functionality strictly for actual USB hard drives, or can USB SD adapters be used? I plugged my adapter in and it recognized it but couldn't do anything with it.
holygeesus
Banned
Pro.
I just tried again and got some jitters with the internal drive anyway. I guess it's just pushing the Pro to it's limits when playing with the pro patch.
Loading speeds are a world apart - that first load in RE7 with an internal SSHD is nigh on a minute whereas an external SSD (in enclosure) at least half that.
Internal SSD will be the fastest option.
That's the set up I'm using now. 500GB SSD with my old 2TB being used as an external.
Cool. Sounds good to me.
QuantumZebra
Member
I wanna know when PS4 Pro "boost mode" is out so I can see Bloodborne with moar power.
Also when the hell can I use any Bluetooth headset w/ my PS4 :/
If you use the ssd in both cases, there won't be much difference as the internal drive is also connected to usb. Funny it should be faster on the external as the os also has a certain bandwidth and access load on the internal drive.
Shift Breaker
Member
Shouldn't be too long at least, this topic is nearly a month old.
RedAssedApe
Banned
There's still weird amateur hour stuff in beta 4. Like notifications/downloads/uploads ui not being consistent
I can't get over how bad the notifications screen is. In what way is that any improvement over what it was before?
Yeah it's a mess now. Total downgrade from the previous version. I'm not sure why they felt this needed fixing.
endlessflood
Member
I actually prefer the new style.
cozomel
Member
The drive has to be a minimum of 250GB, which i hope they'll lower to at least 128GB. So if you're USB drive is less than that then thats why. And how would you get a SD adapter to work?
cozomel
Member
I got a 500GB SSD and 4TB external ;-p
And im with the guys that think the new notification screen is worst than the old one, by far!
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
Wish I knew what this new style looked like lol
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Mine is a USB to SD slot adapter. 250 is too rich for me though so I guess that's not happening.
endlessflood
Member
Instead of having eight (or however many) sub menus on the left side of the notifications screen, all of the notifications just appear in the one window with no submenus. I prefer it TBH.
RedAssedApe
Banned
i've grown used to it but like between notifications/uploads/downloads there are different number of rows per page, different sized font, and different sized tiles/images for the tiles...
Goose_Se7en
Banned
I don't speak tech but I do believe that's it's 2 Samsung 2TB spinpoint drives inside the enclosure. I know someone pried it open and I saw pics of it in the Amazon comments section.
endlessflood
Member
I suspect that that's the problem.
MarkRenton
Banned
Ok I have narrowed down the issue with the Headset issues with update 4.50
Basically, if you're using an OG PS4, and have a USB HDD plugged into one of the USB ports, its starving the wireless headset dongle for power and GREATLY reduces the range of the headset itself. I'm only about 8 feet away and if I move ever so slightly i get constant outages every few seconds.
If I remove the HDD, everything is back to normal and I get range up to 20 feet away.
This should not be a problem for the Pro however. If you plug the HDD into the back USB it shouldnt starve the dongle of power, as the rear USB runs on its own power separate from the front.
Basically, if you're using an OG PS4, and have a USB HDD plugged into one of the USB ports, its starving the wireless headset dongle for power and GREATLY reduces the range of the headset itself. I'm only about 8 feet away and if I move ever so slightly i get constant outages every few seconds.
If I remove the HDD, everything is back to normal and I get range up to 20 feet away.
This should not be a problem for the Pro however. If you plug the HDD into the back USB it shouldnt starve the dongle of power, as the rear USB runs on its own power separate from the front.
hikarutilmitt
Member
This sounds like something I was a bit afraid of. The USB 3.0 standard has known interference with RF signals when other devices are using it. The amount of interference varies by devices and the plug shielding, but there's not a truly fool-proof way to prevent it entirely. USB 3.1 apparently fixes it, though. It's rather bad with USB drives, in fact, because they use more power, thus causing more interference.
I'd be curious to know if using a powered hub for the HDD and using the other PS4 port for the headset dongle would alleviate this in any way. The data transfer is still there so there would still be some interference, but the power draw wouldn't be the same since the hub would be providing the power to the drive.
MarkRenton
Banned
I might have to try that
Rellik
Member
My Pro does too.
MarkRenton
Banned
Me too
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Man do I love 4.50.
Got a 480GB SSD installed as my main drive and an external 4TB. Thin configuration has been a god send for Witcher 3. The performance is so much better AND most importantly it has shortened the load times by quite a bit.
Got a 480GB SSD installed as my main drive and an external 4TB. Thin configuration has been a god send for Witcher 3. The performance is so much better AND most importantly it has shortened the load times by quite a bit.
holygeesus
Banned
Not had a single disconnect on either the first beta or the latest during many hours of testing. I fully power down my PS4 Pro if that makes any difference.
JohnDoe8865
Member
So is the skipping and juttering on external HDD issue overblown or is this a real concern? I'm just waiting to buy an external HDD when/if there is a general consensius on this issue/non-issue.
Wonder if this is why I'm seeing much less range and increased interference with my controllers, too. More interference meaning if I have my leg in between the controller and the ps4, it'll stop working and even turn itself off after a few seconds. I know I used to have more range than I do now. I'll have to test that without a drive plugged in, or use a drive with it's own power
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Still in Beta