DangerMouse
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PS4: The Dark Sorcerer - Quantic Dream's full tech demo released
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samurai1226
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If you only render 2 models and a half room it should be clear, that you can really stretch out the limit - but i don't think that a complete game, in which the cpu+gpu have more to do than just render a few graphics, will look anything like that in the next years.
so for me the division demo was quite more impressive, cause it wasnt just a techdemo
so for me the division demo was quite more impressive, cause it wasnt just a techdemo
Callibretto
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Open world zelda games? If dark sorcerer is a game, Id rather have straight forward point and click adventure ala longest journeySome scenarios that I played out in my head of how they could have made The Dark Sorcerer into a game:
- The Dark Sorcerer begins with the scene in the tech demo, a film shoot about a dark wizard summoning a demon. Turns out they performed an actual summon of the real devil himself and now it's up to the Old Man to save the world. Game-type is sort of an open-world Zelda adventure game.
- Take all that tech and have Terry Pratchett write the story for a new adventure RPG set in the Discworld universe.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
We've seen many other environments from the game that looked really nice. I also think HR had some of the best environments of any game - I know, small locations and all, but still.
Snow in Beyond looks pretty great IMO, very nice looking and novel technique. It's not just some 2D texture as what you suggested.
1) QD have shown they can deliver their demo level graphics in games later in the generation.
2) this should make you damn excited for the PC. Gaming PCs will outspec PS4 pretty quickly, so imagine how good PC games will look in a few years.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I kept skipping this video, but now after seeing the whole thing I'm happy I did. It was entertaining and funny hah. I can't wait for QD's PS4 games, did sony buy these guys yet? I guess they probably won't go anywhere else unless MS starts wanting some QD games if Beyond is a big hit.
show me a 400$ pc that can run killzone shadowfall/infamous.
ps4 its a technical marvel.Also check beyond gameplay on ps3. on ps4 quantic dream will surprise alot of ppl.....
when you say a modern pc i think you mean expensive pc with titans that can enable higher setting on multiplatform games.
People calling this waste of money:
This is a technical showcase that defines what their game will shoot for. Having a reasonable target is very important for production. The solutions to problems that they solved trying to achieve this demo will aid in developing the actual game, unless they fire considerable amount of people from QD, their experience will perfectly translate to the game.
People thinking this quality won't make it to actual games:
QD's track record says otherwise. They delivered similar or better IQ to their tech showcases with bigger sets and more objects. Cherry picking 5 second scenes in a 10 hour game won't help your case.
People thinking PS4 is a pile of poop compared to PC's because teh PC tech teraflops gigawatts:
If you look at this realtime footage and still say this, reason may have flown out of the window and I'll gladly let you enjoy Nvidia's faceworks talking head, which is very inefficient IMHO (it is supposed to use 2 teraflops for rendering the head)
This is a technical showcase that defines what their game will shoot for. Having a reasonable target is very important for production. The solutions to problems that they solved trying to achieve this demo will aid in developing the actual game, unless they fire considerable amount of people from QD, their experience will perfectly translate to the game.
People thinking this quality won't make it to actual games:
QD's track record says otherwise. They delivered similar or better IQ to their tech showcases with bigger sets and more objects. Cherry picking 5 second scenes in a 10 hour game won't help your case.
People thinking PS4 is a pile of poop compared to PC's because teh PC tech teraflops gigawatts:
If you look at this realtime footage and still say this, reason may have flown out of the window and I'll gladly let you enjoy Nvidia's faceworks talking head, which is very inefficient IMHO (it is supposed to use 2 teraflops for rendering the head)
rockman zx
Member
I had more fun with Kara, but this is simply amazing, a lot of people make fun of David Cage when he showed the head of this guy some months ago, who is making fun of him now?.
dragonbane
Member
Quantic Dream has 2 teams now. This is a direct result of that. They are already working on their PS4 project and this is the technology demo for it. They hope to achieve this kind of visuals or even better.
Beyond is still on track and worked on by the main team. The latest trailer you saw features a single scene out of the entire game, which is supposed to be around 10-12 hours long. She is trained and used by the government here to take down a terrorist, since she has supernatural abilities and her ghost. She leaves the CIA later and is even on the run for "treason" apparently. Cage likes to make his games unique. That means each scene features a different location or country and a different time period of her life. The game spans 15 years of her life. The things you see in this trailer are only present in this 30 minute scene and never happen again.
Lol you are right, didn't even consider this. Pretty cool.
Still waiting for GamerSyde :/
Rhazer Fusion
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This cannot be real-time. If this is real, PS4 will nto be touched for a long time.
Actually graphics get better than what developers manage at launch, so i would expect them to look much better by the time they make an actual game out of it
And this is confirmed real time, no foolery there besides the fixed camera perhaps and lack of AI, which would have a minor effect on the graphics, if any at all given PS4 is not a PC, but a super efficicient system with 8GB of fast unified ram, that no PC on the planet has right now
And that is before it gets some years of optimization, that will enable them to destroy those demo graphics by miles in actual games
dragonbane
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Evolution of Quantic Dream's technology since 2006:
2006 ("The Casting" Tech Demo on PS3)
2010 (Heavy Rain Game on PS3)
2011 ("Kara" Tech Demo on PS3)
2013 (Beyond Game on PS3)
2013 ("Old Man" Tech Demo on PS4)
2013 ("The Dark Sorcerer" Tech Demo on PS4; YouTube compressed footage)
2014/2015/2016 (???)
Click to enlarge. No bullshots. All direct feed (except for Sorcerer atm) and realtime.
2006 ("The Casting" Tech Demo on PS3)
2010 (Heavy Rain Game on PS3)
2011 ("Kara" Tech Demo on PS3)
2013 (Beyond Game on PS3)
2013 ("Old Man" Tech Demo on PS4)
2013 ("The Dark Sorcerer" Tech Demo on PS4; YouTube compressed footage)
2014/2015/2016 (???)
Click to enlarge. No bullshots. All direct feed (except for Sorcerer atm) and realtime.
Hell some of the environments look jaw dropping.
Finally watched the whole thing. Very impressive work. The character modelling is insane, the rendering beautiful. Definitely up with the best 'next-gen' tech demos, maybe the best, on the modelling front anyway.
Still a bit of a disconnect for me sometimes between what a character is saying, how they're saying it, and how a face is behaving. I can't quite put my finger on it. I mean, it's always the way with me for videogames and it's getting better, but still not perfect.
But anyway, really promising stuff.
Still a bit of a disconnect for me sometimes between what a character is saying, how they're saying it, and how a face is behaving. I can't quite put my finger on it. I mean, it's always the way with me for videogames and it's getting better, but still not perfect.
But anyway, really promising stuff.
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Deleted member 59090
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I still can't shake off the feeling that the sorcerer is Peter Molyneux.
Chuck Norris
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I actually loved the writing in this, it was almost like a Pixar pre-movie short, who knew Cage could write something so charming?
He should do something more light-hearted on PS4
He should do something more light-hearted on PS4
Beyond looks fantastic on 7 year old hardware. I have no doubt QD will make a game for PS4 that will match if not surpass this tech demo.
Wildstar75
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Quantic Dream did an extended stage demo of Beyond at Sonys main stage in their booth. It looked amazing graphically. At first I though it was next gen. I was waiting in line to play Drive club while I watched it. When I finally got to play Drive club, they transitioned to this demo on the Sony stage. Wish I could have seen it live, Ill have to head back tomorrow. Does anybody have a Sony stage schedule? Did anyone see the stage demo?
KimonoNoNo
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Damn, that would be a fine idea.
Basically be like PC benchmark apps such as 3dmark, but purely for showing off.
Metal Khaos
Member
Yeah, that's what I'm feeling. But to KNOW that this level of quality can be pushed on the hardware makes me VERY excited to see what games we'll be getting in 2-3 years time.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Looks great. Can't wait to get these consoles!
I don't understand why so many people quote this guy ...
He wrote a simple "opinion" in a very rude way, but got a lot of attention ...
Anyway, this is a lot nicer to read and no one quoted him :
Well, thanks for the nice info
TheJollyCorner
Member
Don't give up hope.
S-E took a poll from FF fans regarding if the style/characters in Agni's Philosophy would be interesting to them for a future FF.
The result, to my knowledge, was overwhelmingly positive.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
A game where the "video game world" began to infect the actor's real world would be absolutely amazing.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Why the fuck does QD do these tech demos?
I want a game out of this and a game out of Kara.
I want a game out of this and a game out of Kara.
Can Crusher
Banned
My gf walked in while I was watching this, and she thought it was a movie with real people.
I couldn't be more excited for their first game on the Ps4.
I couldn't be more excited for their first game on the Ps4.
Because they're the basis for their engines (and revisions) quite clearly.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Jet is a dev too, as far as I remember.Anyway, this is a lot nicer to read and no one quoted him :
Well, thanks for the nice info
I know it's not the place, but would you mind posting some impressions of DriveClub. I'm surprised that for a game that's playable on the showfloor, noone here commented what was it like to play it?
Stealth brag.
I would love some of this tech to bleed over into the other first party titles, right now Infamous could use it, especially the skin shader. I assume it would be too late for Killzone, especially since everyone is wearing masks, but those NPC's from the February reveal looked bad.
Terra_Ex
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Video was amusing and everything and was visually quite impressive. I'm still waiting for the Quantic Dream game that manages to consistently keep the quality of the first half of Fahrenheit steady for the entire game, hopefully Beyond: Two Souls, or this (whatever it eventually morphs into) will be that game.
Night_Trekker
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The faces look hilariously photoshopped in stills. I just can't get past it.
Oppo
Member
Weird thing to say. You know these are 3D models, right?
or is this just some crappy uncanny valley joke
AranhaHunter
Banned
I want a game made out of it.
Wildstar75
Member
Im off to the show. Will post tonight. In short I liked it. Is there a show floor impressions thread? I couldn't find one. If so PM me.
Lagspike_exe
Member
I was shocked when they showed off the film set. It looked incredibly real.
They make their games on time and on budget. Tech demos obviously help.
Leave them be.
All of Quantic Dream's games (IMHO) have looked better than their respective tech demos... just saying.
Glass Brain
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I really can't believe they got Joe Biden to be the mocap actor
David Cage talks about this demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emiXYT9ux94
No new info other than the confirmation that TDS is not a game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emiXYT9ux94
No new info other than the confirmation that TDS is not a game.