Face it Tiger..
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You know Trent, I've never liked your threads,
and your posts come off as bait-y,
*HISSS* meow.
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PS4 vs Xbox One console sizes - PS4 is small
- Thread starter Canis lupus
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You know Trent, I've never liked your threads,
and your posts come off as bait-y,
*HISSS* meow.
Trent Strong
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Lots of people think they are ugly consoles though. It's not just me.
No cite, that's how it looked when I was at the conference.
The demo players didn't realize things were freezing until they looked up at the big screens.
Audio kept going also while the video feed on the big screen was frozen. I looked at the players while this was happening and they didn't seem bothered.
So, cooling the ram chips exactly the same way as my graphics card then? We don't know how the PS4 is going to do it, but since it's one large APU and the RAM it shouldn't be nearly as convoluted at the PS3 one that has to cool two chips. Also, someone else here told me that the One will suck air through the heatsink and blow out the top vent, rather than blowing down through it and over the components in the immediate area. Seemed odd to me but who knows.
Until we see internals of the PS4 we wont know. But if they ARE using clamshell mode for the GDDR5, how will they cool the other side?
sono
Gold Member
put that like that I see what you mean, of course you can add
+ allows used games
+ no always online
+ no external power brick
Is that the official controller charger? Looks nice if so.
I really wish I had somewhere to set the PS4 up vertically when I get it, but my setup doesn't have enough height anywhere. Would be cool if they sold a blue stand for those going vertical though - that would look sharp.
Advantages the PS4 has over the Xbox One.
+ No new DRM
+ Allows used games
+ No mandatory online check in
+ No forced camera sensor
+ No external power brick
+ 65% smaller
+ Region free
+ Upgradeable hard drive
+ $100/£80 cheaper
+ 50%+ more powerful
+ GDDR5 vs DDR3 (2.6x more memory bandwidth)
+ 2GB additional ram available for games
+ Easier to develop for
+ Self publishing for Indies
Unless you literally cannot live without Microsoft exclusives, I honestly can't see why anyone would pick the Xbox One over the PS4. The PS4 is superior in nearly every way.[/QUOTE]
+ No new DRM
+ Allows used games
+ No mandatory online check in
+ No forced camera sensor
+ No external power brick
+ 65% smaller
+ Region free
+ Upgradeable hard drive
+ $100/£80 cheaper
+ 50%+ more powerful
+ GDDR5 vs DDR3 (2.6x more memory bandwidth)
+ 2GB additional ram available for games
+ Easier to develop for
+ Self publishing for Indies
Unless you literally cannot live without Microsoft exclusives, I honestly can't see why anyone would pick the Xbox One over the PS4. The PS4 is superior in nearly every way.[/QUOTE]
Good job, doctor.
The explanation is simple...MS is not a hardware company, Sony is. Sony has a wealth of experience building hardware. I'm not surprised that the XBO is so large especially given the RROD fiasco.
Windom Earle
Member
I wonder how the downclocking of the Xbone turns out... Might be 100% more powerful in the end.
See You Next Wednesday
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aramanKain
Member
Is that a proprietary charging cradle for the DS4 or just a plastic stand?Here are some pics I took today:
Edit: Looks like it.
I thought it was the feed as well, but was concerned it may have to do with either the devkits or the actual game. I'm surprised there was no confirmation though. Both MS and Sony had technical problems. Whoever was contracted to do the electrical for the conference need to have some answers as to why there was so many problems. I don't remember it being this bad at last year's E3.
I don't think the downclocking will happen. People have reported that available XBO preorders at retail gamestop is far less than the PS4, indicating MS may just accept the low yields instead of gimp the console.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
Yep, since they have to spin faster,I hope there's a way around this. Wish they could do it like the MacBook does it, completely silent machine.
Roland1979
Junior Member
98% less evil (2% for the new pay-wall even though you get free awesome games)
The Lamonster
Member
dat purple is sexy.
To me the PS4 looks higher quality than any of the Playstation consoles before it. The texture and tone of the materials, the finish, the gloss, the subtle hints of colour etc. Does not look like it is made cheaply, where previously the consoles may have looked sexy in certain releases, they often still looked a tad cheap or less premium. Not the case for the PS4.
brain_stew
Member
PS1.
Wat. It's beautiful. The Xbone looks cool as well.
LightofRohan
Member
There is a lot of people that think literally every console that comes out is ugly. Have you EVER seen a console announced where everyone universally loved its design? No. You haven't.
It's weird that people think they have an eye for aesthetics of a console, you really don't. It's hard to determine objectively, "THIS CONSOLE IS UGLY" or that it isn't. Especially considering they are incredibly simple and serve their purpose... it's a black box with a blue streak that glows. That's not "Ugly". If it was some clunky ponderous abstract multicolor beast that vibrated and blared a screeching tone when it was turned on, then maybe you'd be onto something. By right now you are just being a tad dramatic...
Huh, so the PS4's is less complicated? I definitely need to read a breakdown of the specs (or at least what we know so far.)
CosmicGroinPull
Member
According to what I read here, the included ESRAM on Xbox One's SOC has made it significantly larger / more complicated to manufacture vs. the PS4 SOC. Sony has a more powerful SOC that's less complicated to make thanks to 8gb GDDR5.
Yeah, I'm gonna come out and say that I think the PS4 looks sexy. I completely disagree that it looks like XBone. It has interesting angles, it's slim, love the vent design, love the buttons, love the double tower look... Mmmmmm. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
My only gripe is with Sony ditching the multicolored PS logo. The white logo is so plain and drab. It's the "PlayStation" logo dammit! Give it some color!
My only gripe is with Sony ditching the multicolored PS logo. The white logo is so plain and drab. It's the "PlayStation" logo dammit! Give it some color!
I happen to be in the minority who think the PS4 and XBO designs are fine. I mean there are only so many ways you can design a black box.
They really should bring back the PSX startup screen with the color logo for the PS4 boot sequence.
Isnt that port the mic port? And I think I saw a mini-USB port on the front of the controller below the light.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The significantly larger Xbone design will also cost more to manufacture won't it.
Ah, I see, Sony went for more power straight forward rather than creating a convoluted situation to get roughly the same effect. I guess I just underestimated the cost to the hardware.
abstract alien
Member
whooooooa!
Arthur Gies talks so much shit it's unbelievable, never liked that guy ........... RebelFM or whatever it is / was called could not be listened to for this reason.
People need to wrap their heads around the fact that the more custom the silicon is (esram on the apu) makes it a lot more complicated and a lot more dense in terms of transistor count ........ makes that shit hotter.
PS4 APU is a much more standard variant than the Xbox One APU, it just has a much better GPU.
Also as someone with GTX 670, the gDDR5 on my card does not have any passive or active cooling on it at all ......... and zero problems.
Some crazy myths permeating through this forum that are not helped by that clown and MS shill Gies.
Also the PS4 can still have a large fan based cooling assembly, there are plenty of large, low profile fans around that push a lot of air with little noise.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
My mind is absolutely blown.
Krusenstern
Banned
It really is. No doubt about that.
But what about the part with the RAM? As far as I know it's unclear how much ram is allocated to games and OS. According to Digital Foundry's latest article it's still unknown.
I'm really curious how effective the cooling is and how loud it will be.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
...That's hard to believe.
That is pretty accurate.
Thanks. On a rewatch you appear to be correct, they kept playing it seemed but the screens behind them were freezing. I'm still skeptical here, but we'll see I'm sure.
It's just a marvel of engineering if they got it to be cool (ie, leave it on 6-12 hours playing Destiny or The Division). It's tiny. I remember when I first saw it and saw how tiny it was. It blew my mind. I saved the IRC log of the chat at the time but apparently my buffer was too short and I don't have that part. It was amazing to me.
What I said after the megatons (it was literally after 399 was dropped so no one replied):
0_0 Holy crap.
wait, is it correct? that doesn't match at all with what is in first page where both consoles width (or height in vertical stance) is pretty much the same.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I hope so. I plan on only owning a PS4, have it pre-ordered on Amazon. I'm just kind of in awe that it's supposedly smaller than a 360. Fucking insane.
SlowRevolution
Member
Going from the fat PS3 to PS4 is going to be great.