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PSN 2.0: What should it be like? (Twitter #BetterPSN)
- Thread starter etta
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I agree, for me who has 105 mbps down and 10 up its painful to see that I'm only getting 36 mbps down and 2 up on a wired connection.
Awesome! I would love to see their input. PSN needs a 2.0 ASAP its been stagnant
I think the game invite system is not fully at a system level (OS), but at a game level, meaning you can't invite people accross games? Not actually sure on this either, I only did Bloodborne coop twice since I got the PS4.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Pretty much. Just create a changeable alias on top of your actual PSN username, require all games from X date to only recognize the alias, old games can patch if they want to
Hell, that's what Steam does, in addition to all the tagging stuff. My Steam account name is very different from my Steam username, and not changeable either
Games do not pull directly from your PSN party no, but they do have access to it. For example, in Rocket League, you have to manually set up parties in the game even if you're already in a PSN party, but when you go to set up the game party it goes "Oh, you're in a PSN party" and puts those usernames at the top of your invite list
bloodborne is a bad example.
its MP is kinda special.
maybe he means inviting people trough the friendlist, and not through the ingame invite feature?
Invites on PS4 are a game by game thing. Universal game invites is basically a game invite system on an os level. Some games like Battlefield 4 don't have in game party system, so it'd be nice to be able to just press on "invite party/friend to game" in the party options on PS4.
But you can join anyone in your party just by tapping X on their Name? Or is that not the aame thing?
Heavy_D206
Member
I don't seem to have the same issues with PSN as others around here.
I downloaded the 15GB ESO update earlier tonight in less than an hour, so the speeds seem fine to me.
I downloaded the 15GB ESO update earlier tonight in less than an hour, so the speeds seem fine to me.
Dirtyshubb
Member
I was gonna come in here and say "There isnt really much i would want to change" but i have to say majority of your points are valid and would be appreciated.Hi GAF, I would like to take my firstattempt to create a thread that focuses on a not-so-minor issue: the PSN.second
I want this to be a thread where people could add to the feature list and discuss them, and I will try to keep the list updated in the OP. Anger venting is welcome if it does not derail and remains positive/constructive.
I guess I am hoping that the ultimate objective of this thread is to get some traction in a way that could get Sony to start communcating with us directly a little more on the topic.
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Edit: Some of the suggestions so far are about improvements to the PS4 OS, so not sure if I should add them here. Also, free multiplayer is unfortunately not realistic, so can't add that either.
This started out in another thread, and I'd like to thank Steiner84 for the advice. Here is what we have so far:
- Better/more CDN's with universal consistent speeds that max out the client's throughput
- Continous trophy syncing
- Organized library and download lists
- Free, unlimited (or at least significantly increased in size) cloud storage for saves, as well as a family account featureset for saves (no need for sub accounts)
- Message system refinement
- Up-to-date digital titles (patching)
- Better friends list with nicknames, grouping by categories (games, relationship), and VIP tied to the notification system
- Store wishlist, gifting system (cross-region gifting)
- Correctly tagged games in the store
- Online/offline status
- Refined Store navigation
- Universal game invites
- Username changing along with a username history system in the user's profile page
- Fix bug that prevents users from accessing the store in certain situations, needing a reboot
- Behind the scenes (less disruptive) maintenance
- Game hubs (similar to Xbox One, Steam), direct developer/players interaction, statuses, update logs
- Custom avatars (purchaseable or own uploaded via PS app)
- Search function and filters for download history/library
[*]Two-factor authentication
My main points would be cloud storage upgrade since its useless to me now unless i delete a tonne of games, store loading bug and trophy syncing.
lazer_bean
Member
People pay for their free saves and games already though.
Actually, psn 2.0 should be free again. The service wasnt better or worse when it was free. Wait, yes, free does make it better.
It's not happening though, everyone seems happy about paying for what used to be free.
Edited.
Yea, I don't think it is realistic. If anyone were to drop the charge for multiplayer maybe it would be Microsoft, as a move to increase sales of Xbox Ones.
Dynasty8
Member
There's a lot that should be improved here. The new Xbox One UI they showed at E3 looks awesome...not to mention it's much faster than the current one were using. I would love for it to look like that.
Sony needs to step it up...it's been almost two years now and we're still missing essential features.
1. Folders or better yet...pins.
2. Customize my own Theme/Background
3. Ability to Remove unnecessary items like TV, browser, and other stuff I never use.
4. Proper Notifications when friends come online.
5. Needs to be more organized. The current "What's New" menu is like an unorganized comic book. We need a more appropriate activity feed.
6. Redo the whole Playstation store UI...there really isn't anything wrong with it, but I've been seeing the same UI since the PS3. Some new changes in design would be nice.
7. Fix the download speeds.
8. Allow us to change our PSN usernames.
9. Have a more unique User Profile in place. Comparing trophies are cool, but that's been around for a while...add some cool features to give us reasons to check other player's profiles. Such as: where this player is placed on leaderboards, updated avatars, their favorite game, a shortcut to some of their best videos/gaming moments, their followers, their most wanted upcoming games, and other cool stuff.
Sony needs to step it up...it's been almost two years now and we're still missing essential features.
1. Folders or better yet...pins.
2. Customize my own Theme/Background
3. Ability to Remove unnecessary items like TV, browser, and other stuff I never use.
4. Proper Notifications when friends come online.
5. Needs to be more organized. The current "What's New" menu is like an unorganized comic book. We need a more appropriate activity feed.
6. Redo the whole Playstation store UI...there really isn't anything wrong with it, but I've been seeing the same UI since the PS3. Some new changes in design would be nice.
7. Fix the download speeds.
8. Allow us to change our PSN usernames.
9. Have a more unique User Profile in place. Comparing trophies are cool, but that's been around for a while...add some cool features to give us reasons to check other player's profiles. Such as: where this player is placed on leaderboards, updated avatars, their favorite game, a shortcut to some of their best videos/gaming moments, their followers, their most wanted upcoming games, and other cool stuff.
you can, this would just be an extension.
paradise_circus
Member
Make the multiplayer free, but charge for party chats, cloud saves and other additional features.
I typically play games with the same two people, and every time we play one of us has to create a party and invite each other. It'd be nice if we could have something like Skype's group conversations, where it continues to exist when we're offline. This way we wouldn't need to invite each other whenever we play, we could just check the group to see if there's a party chat going on.
Aside from that, the big ones for me are two step authentication and name changing.
Aside from that, the big ones for me are two step authentication and name changing.
LiquidSolid
Member
Everything in the OP plus:
Worldwide PS Store - No more EU/US/JPN/whatever stores, one store that has all content but provides access depending on your accounts region. So if they allowed it, you could easily buy a Japanese PS1 game on a US account. If I wanted to buy a 60Hz version of FFVII on my NZ account, I could do so. It'd be ran by one team, with regional localisation teams, making it easier to update, easier to organise and easier to fix issues.
Gifting - An obvious advantage of the above restructuring.
Worldwide PS Store - No more EU/US/JPN/whatever stores, one store that has all content but provides access depending on your accounts region. So if they allowed it, you could easily buy a Japanese PS1 game on a US account. If I wanted to buy a 60Hz version of FFVII on my NZ account, I could do so. It'd be ran by one team, with regional localisation teams, making it easier to update, easier to organise and easier to fix issues.
Gifting - An obvious advantage of the above restructuring.
I think that aside from PSN ID change and all those features that are sorely needed at this point, a sort of trophy podium would be cool.
You can choose the trophies you want to show the world, your proudest achievements, and place them on a list accessible from your profile page (maybe 5-10 trophies max). Of course, I am a trophy hunter and that's why I find this interesting, I understand most people wouldn't even care to use it xD
So I'll reiterate how needed PSN ID change is before I go lol
You can choose the trophies you want to show the world, your proudest achievements, and place them on a list accessible from your profile page (maybe 5-10 trophies max). Of course, I am a trophy hunter and that's why I find this interesting, I understand most people wouldn't even care to use it xD
So I'll reiterate how needed PSN ID change is before I go lol
I don't think this will happen either. But I think so about most things on the list.
People are asking for name change for years. It's probably as likely to happen than free multiplayer or cross region gifting.
I would make this list as general as possible with features that people would like to see or what they don't like about the current PSN and not already pre-sort it based on what might be realistic because it's not completely unrealistic that most of the list won't happen either.
Cool. Though you still ask for update logs, which is already there. Hit Options on a game and go to update history.
Winter John
Gold Member
I haven't met anyone who is happy about having to pay for online multiplayer. I have seen people on here trying to downplay the complaints. Personally I'd be satisfied if they at least offered a 2 tier subscription for those who don't want the "free" games.
cross posting from the other thread about cloud saves
- Unlimited* cloud save space (*not literally but size increases as I buy more games, and therefore giving Sony more money from license fees).
- Let me opt to auto upload the save, but not additional data (i can live without Driveclub ghosts).
- Push for devs to have smaller saves.
- extend cloud saves to all accounts on a primary console - it is the only PS+ feature that is not usable by others on your console. MS doesn't even put this behind gold, it is standard for everyone.
- have better syncing of saves like xbox one, for those of us that use more than one console. I sold my second PS4 because syncing saves is a PITA and has to be done manually on the second console. I would buy a second PS4 if they had save management like Xbox one.
- Unlimited* cloud save space (*not literally but size increases as I buy more games, and therefore giving Sony more money from license fees).
- Let me opt to auto upload the save, but not additional data (i can live without Driveclub ghosts).
- Push for devs to have smaller saves.
- extend cloud saves to all accounts on a primary console - it is the only PS+ feature that is not usable by others on your console. MS doesn't even put this behind gold, it is standard for everyone.
- have better syncing of saves like xbox one, for those of us that use more than one console. I sold my second PS4 because syncing saves is a PITA and has to be done manually on the second console. I would buy a second PS4 if they had save management like Xbox one.
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
- Better cloud save system, more space and remove ps+ requirement
- remove paywall to play online
- better stability and download speeds
- refunds
- remove paywall to play online
- better stability and download speeds
- refunds
dealer-
Member
Name changes. I'm close to abandoning my account now because I'm fed up of having my real name in it. I'd make a new account but I'd lose my PS plus purchases.
Apart from that, being able to favourite certain games so they stay on main dash would be good. Faster downloads, free cloud saves for those without Plus, custom wallpapers and extra stuff like trophy leaderboards would be nice.
Apart from that, being able to favourite certain games so they stay on main dash would be good. Faster downloads, free cloud saves for those without Plus, custom wallpapers and extra stuff like trophy leaderboards would be nice.
Well, aside from cross-regional gifting, I think the rest of the list is doable. Xbox and Steam does them, and so could Sony. Yes, dropping the multiplayer fee is doable, but is not going to happen. Not while Xbox Live Gold will continue to exist. And I think username changing is, while technically difficult for them, doable if they can charge 10$ like on Xbox.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Digital Game Gifting.
Kickstarter.
Game Library Organizer.
Kickstarter.
Game Library Organizer.
RustySpoon
Member
1. Two factor
2. More reliable CDN
3. More PS+ cloud space
Other ideas are really nice, but these are such blatant issues that it's crazy that they even have to be mentioned as part of wishlists.
2. More reliable CDN
3. More PS+ cloud space
Other ideas are really nice, but these are such blatant issues that it's crazy that they even have to be mentioned as part of wishlists.
Kralamoonard
Member
I agree with the OP, but most importantly, I want a hub type area, not the What's New section, I want something more complex and involved and less clunky.
Seriously, PSN just seems very bland and not very customisable or interactive with other PSN players like on Xbox One, that's something I'd like improved; making it more social; ironically, it's something Sony has been pushing very hard with the PS4 ("social connectivity"), yet they aren't even close to mastering it.
Oh yeah, and make the download speeds faster please. Shouldn't have to deal with slow download speed with a really fast fibre optics wired connection >___>
Seriously, PSN just seems very bland and not very customisable or interactive with other PSN players like on Xbox One, that's something I'd like improved; making it more social; ironically, it's something Sony has been pushing very hard with the PS4 ("social connectivity"), yet they aren't even close to mastering it.
Oh yeah, and make the download speeds faster please. Shouldn't have to deal with slow download speed with a really fast fibre optics wired connection >___>
I wouldn't say Steam is the perfect online network either. Steam voice chat barely ever works, so you have to turn to a 3rd party solution often, appearing offline comes at the cost of viewing your friends-list, and the actual UI is cluttered outside of big picture, not to mention pop-ups are obnoxious.
Don't get me wrong, PSN is worse than Steam in most things, but steam's not in an ideal state either.
Yes I didn't mean that they are not doable only that I wouldn't count on them to happen.
When Sony replaced the old PSN store on PS3 with the new app and introduced the web store they mentioned that their new store system would make it easier to add features like for example an improved download list. This was years ago and the list is still the same.
Sony can be quite puzzling when it comes to adding new features.
I just think there's no benefit when making a "how should PSN 2.0 be"-list to not list something just because it might not happen. Even if it's just dreaming and certainly not going to happen there's no downside to list a feature when it's something that people don't like/wish for.