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[WHOAguitarninja]

Acording to iD its PC> PS3 > X360, but console versions are very close to eachother. PS3 has less texture popping.

Actually that's not quite right. If you install to the hard drive then 360>PS3. If you do not, then PS3>360. That seemed to be what Carmack felt at Quakecon, atleast.

 

[NullPointer]

Can any version of this game really be considered a "port"? Weren't all platform versions developed simultaneously with the same code base and tools?

 

[Infamous Chris]

Acording to iD its PC> PS3 > X360, but console versions are very close to eachother. PS3 has less texture popping.

Actually it's PC>360>PS3. It takes a few minutes to install the 360 version.

 

[BeeDog]

Why don't some of you guys wait for a proper DF face-off instead of trying to champion your platforms of choice by using random YT videos and Carmack's words as sources?

 

[AEREC]

I'm watching that Rage pt 3 video in 1080p and that is definately not 60fps all the time.

There are obvious areas where the fps dips, like turning around and loading new assets, and such. Perhaps it's from the person recording but....

Also the art style looks great but there's obvious tons of low res textures it just looks better because everything is grimy.

Borderlands 2.5 gooo

Ya Im not sure if it's the videos or not, But I havent seen rage running at a constant 60fps yet. It still runs good but it looks like the framerate is between 40 and 60 fps.

 

[DaFish]

Still not able to start my Steam Pre-load... blarg

anyway to remedy this?

 

[delta25]

just out of curiosity dose Carmack ever post here at gaf?

 

[JaseC]

just out of curiosity dose Carmack ever post here at gaf?

Carmack is bish.

Spoiler

 

[Square Triangle]

In these linked youtube clips, the AI looks kinda spotty

 

[IoCaster]

just out of curiosity dose Carmack ever post here at gaf?

I don't think so, but he has posted on Slashdot in the past and he's fairly active on Twitter these days.

 

[Suairyu]

Can any version of this game really be considered a "port"? Weren't all platform versions developed simultaneously with the same code base and tools?

Correct. There is no lead platform.

 

[sp3000]

Correct. There is no lead platform.

That's the issue. When there is no lead, you naturally build for the lowest common denominator. How else can you explain that the PC gets the same textures as console?

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Makes sense that the 360 runs smoothly when it's installed.

Just wondering if you have to install all the discs or is it disc swapping. Either way, it's good to hear that all versions are pretty good.

John Carmack is a genius.

 

[delta25]

I don't think so, but he has posted on Slashdot in the past and he's fairly active on Twitter these days.

Only us nerds could ever be star struck by this guy....

 

[Suairyu]

That's the issue. When there is no lead, you naturally build for the lowest common denominator. How else can you explain that the PC gets the same textures as console?

Because nobody is going to release a 100+gig game.

 

[Always-honest]

fuck............wish i had a 36o with a larger HD.

 

[JaseC]

Because nobody is going to release a 100+gig game.

Challenge accepted.

 

[Wallach]

I don't think so, but he has posted on Slashdot in the past and he's fairly active on Twitter these days.

Look at this shit:

Potential locality improvement for kd tree tracing by always making the larger SAH, instead of the more negative, node follow?

a kd tree is a BSP tree with the splits limited to axial planes instead of arbitrarily oriented ones

He says things like this on Twitter.

 

[NullPointer]

Challenge accepted.

Just make sure the pre-load works for all buyers at least a week or two out from release. Thanks very much.

 

[Dynamite Ringo Matsuri]

Just saw the 360 game footage. Fucking hell this game looks incredible. I never want to hear Square Enix bitch about HD towns again. The amount of detail is just staggering! Leave it to Carmack and id to elevate us out of the gaming ghetto lol.

 

[delta25]

That's the issue. When there is no lead, you naturally build for the lowest common denominator. How else can you explain that the PC gets the same textures as console?

Yet the final product is an amazingly well crafted and beautiful looking game, so ultimately I fail to see what your whining about?

 

[JaseC]

Just make sure the pre-load works for all buyers at least a week or two out from release. Thanks very much.

In the interests of impracticality and annoyance, I will do no such thing.

 

[~Kinggi~]

I am very hyped for this wonderful game hyped is what i am.

 

[NullPointer]

He says things like this on Twitter.

When the Cylons attack he can have my seat on the escape shuttle.

(Who am I kidding? He probably has his own shuttle hidden away somewhere.)

 

[JaseC]

A big thanks to jaundicejuice for gifting me Rage. SteamGAF is BestGAF.

 

[IoCaster]

Only us nerds could ever be star struck by this guy....

Yeah, there's a certain measure of truth to this. He's so refreshingly honest and straightforward as a contrast to the overwhelming number of mendacious PR drones in the industry that it's easy to develop a genuine respect for the guy.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

I'm reading from other forums that the game is 15 hours long, minimum, and can be played up to over 30 hours if you do everything.

Is this true?

Sounds like a apocalyptic Half-Life 2 that can be played like Borderlands.

 

[soulassssns]

<------ Is hyped for Rage!!! I wonder when Newegg will ship my copy out?

 

[EvilDick34]

I'm reading from other forums that the game is 15 hours long, minimum, and can be played up to over 30 hours if you do everything.

Is this true?

Sounds like a apocalyptic Half-Life 2 that can be played like Borderlands.

They are saying 12 to 15 for main game and if you complete side missions maybe 20ish hours.

 

[Solo]

Servers STILL overloaded. Step up your fucking game, Steam.

 

[FatBaby]

Well, I was able to download about 2 gigs last night and since then I haven't been able to preload anything.

Anyone else having problems or is it just me?

Edit: I guess the post above mine answers that one lol.

 

[Solo]

I still don't understand how they did this much at 60 fps on consoles. The outdoor areas look damn nice.

And on the seventh day, god created John Carmack.

 

[JaseC]

Servers STILL overloaded. Step up your fucking game, Steam.

It's strange that people are running into the error as according to the content server utilisation page there's plenty of bandwidth to go around.

 

[Blimblim]

When the Cylons attack he can have my seat on the escape shuttle.

http://i54.tinypic.com/afhgya.jpg[IMG]

(Who am I kidding? He probably has his own shuttle hidden away somewhere.)[/QUOTE]
My sarcasm detector is kinda broken these days, so I'll just post this in case it's not sarcasm:
[url]http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home/FAQ#John[/url]
[QUOTE=Solo]And on the seventh day, god created John Carmack.[/QUOTE]
To be fair (and I couldn't have more respect for Carmack than I have really) some of the stuff in Rage, especially in the realtime lighting department, could be considered quite a step back from Doom 3's.

 

[NullPointer]

My sarcasm detector is kinda broken these days, so I'll just post this in case it's not sarcasm:
http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home/FAQ#John

To be fair (and I couldn't have more respect for Carmack than I have really) some of the stuff in Rage, especially in the realtime lighting department, could be considered quite a step back from Doom 3's.

;p

I knew, but it never hurts to share awesomeness with the class.

To be fair (and I couldn't have more respect for Carmack than I have really) some of the stuff in Rage, especially in the realtime lighting department, could be considered quite a step back from Doom 3's.

Wow. This I did not expect.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

Any new gameplay vids? Can't get enough of em.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

A big thanks to jaundicejuice for gifting me Rage. SteamGAF is BestGAF.

WTF how come I never get the nice end of the stick fml

 

[JaseC]

WTF how come I never get the nice end of the stick fml

Those 2 or 3 Steamgifts GAFers who tend to win everything are hogging it.

 

[Blimblim]

Wow. This I did not expect.

What do you mean? You do not agree that some aspects of Rage are a step back from other games?
Look at a driving video, when a car goes into a shadow. It basically makes the car darker, but there is no projected shadows. Also look at explosions, they don't actual light up the room. Everything's prebaked, because there is no way it could have been realtime.
It was realtime in doom 3, but with huge limitation in terms of view distance, room size and many other stuff.
I would say it is the first time I've seen Carmack actually have to go back to a simpler solution from one engine to another. Not saying it's not justified, because of course it is considering how widely different the scope of Tech 4 and Tech 5 are, but it's still a compromise.

 

[Danne-Danger]

To be fair (and I couldn't have more respect for Carmack than I have really) some of the stuff in Rage, especially in the realtime lighting department, could be considered quite a step back from Doom 3's.

Most games are behind Doom 3 when it comes to lighting tech though.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Those 2 or 3 Steamgifts GAFers who tend to win everything are hogging it.

Oh I see, not in the club though unfortunately.

 

[NullPointer]

What do you mean? You do not agree that some aspects of Rage are a step back from other games?
Look at a driving video, when a car goes into a shadow. It basically makes the car darker, but there is no projected shadows. Also look at explosions, they don't actual light up the room. Everything's prebaked, because there is no way it could have been realtime.
It was realtime in doom 3, but with huge limitation in terms of view distance, room size and many other stuff.
I would say it is the first time I've seen Carmack actually have to go back to a simpler solution from one engine to another. Not saying it's not justified, because of course it is considering how widely different the scope of Tech 4 and Tech 5 are, but it's still a compromise.

Oh I haven't been examining the game footage outside of stuff from a few months ago. I didn't expect id Tech 5 to be a step back in any regard from Doom 3. Just surprised is all.

Maybe I should check out some of your site's footage. You do good work Blim.

 

[Solo]

It's strange that people are running into the error as according to the content server utilisation page there's plenty of bandwidth to go around.

They must only allocate X amount of bandwidth for certain titles, because I have been getting that message all fucking day :_(

 

[Blimblim]

Most games are behind Doom 3 when it comes to lighting tech though.

Well other games with same-ish scopes have very advanced lighting and shadowing engines too. Heck, Starbreeze did most of Tech 4's stuff on a console way before Doom 3 was released on the Xbox.
I'm a huge fan of realtime lighting and shadowing effects when done right, so for me Rage is a bit of a disappointment in that department. Still a colossal achievement to have such graphics run a 60 fps for sure though.

Oh I haven't been examining the game footage outside of stuff from a few months ago. I didn't expect id Tech 5 to be a step back in any regard from Doom 3. Just surprised is all.

To be fair, not even Carmack could get an advanced lighting engine like Doom 3's to run on such a scope with current gen consoles. Not even at 30 fps.

Maybe I should check out some of your site's footage. You do good work Blim.

I'm afraid I don't have any 60 fps footage since Bethesda didn't release any and they didn't send us a review copy (they sent us a big and nice press kit three times a few weeks ago, strangely...)

 

[Vire]

Oh I haven't been examining the game footage outside of stuff from a few months ago. I didn't expect id Tech 5 to be a step back in any regard from Doom 3. Just surprised is all.

Maybe I should check out some of your site's footage. You do good work Blim.

I wouldn't worry too much, watch this trailer and leave your jaw on the floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSNtIeLxcMg

I think the compromises that were made to achieve 60 FPS were worth it. It is hands down the best looking 60 FPS game readily available.

 

[NullPointer]

They must only allocate X amount of bandwidth for certain titles, because I have been getting that message all fucking day :_(

They should really allocate a spot in queue for any paying customer. Hell, having an actual download queue at this point would be nice.

I wouldn't worry too much, watch this trailer and leave your jaw on the floor.

*jaw back on floor* Thanks for this.

 

[Solo]

They should really allocate a spot in queue for any paying customer. Hell, having an actual download queue at this point would be nice.

Agreed. This shit is ridiculous.

 

[perineumlick]

Scored Rage and Dark Souls today, PS3. Booting Rage up now; damn it's a 8GB install.

 

[Danne-Danger]

Well other games with same-ish scopes have very advanced lighting and shadowing engines too. Heck, Starbreeze did most of Tech 4's stuff on a console way before Doom 3 was released on the Xbox.
I'm a huge fan of realtime lighting and shadowing effects when done right, so for me Rage is a bit of a disappointment in that department. Still a colossal achievement to have such graphics run a 60 fps for sure though.

Oh yeah I'll take good real-time lighting over mostly anything when it comes to graphics, really. But as you say it would've been impossible for Rage if they wanted to reach their goal.

Has He said anything about Doom 3ish lighting and id Tech 5? I'd be surprised if He'd abandoned the idea altogether.

 

[garath]

Scored Rage and Dark Souls today, PS3. Booting Rage up now; damn it's a 8GB install.

Damn. Where do you guys keep scoring early copies? Almost sucks to be a pc gamer sometimes